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Old 02-26-2009, 09:14 PM
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Important things need to be fixed first. Why build even more content on a broken HD? Then there's going to be even more to fix in the long-run when HD is finally revisited(which it needs to be).
Just because it isnt default doesnt make it broken, it makes it different. The HD isn't as important as the complete lack of things to do. Hell, even a lot of the things slated for release are completely unrelated to HD in the first place.

Get your priorities straight, and get a grasp on reality. If we have to spend anymore significant time rebuilding whats already there, you might as well delete Classic, because its never going to get back up.
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:17 PM
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Just because it isnt default doesnt make it broken, it makes it different. The HD isn't as important as the complete lack of things to do. Hell, even a lot of the things slated for release are completely unrelated to HD in the first place.

Get your priorities straight, and get a grasp on reality. If we have to spend anymore significant time rebuilding whats already there, you might as well delete Classic, because its never going to get back up.
Apparently, with all the complaints, the HD is very important. When everyone finishes all they have to do content-wise(which doesn't take long, no matter how much they add), they do what? Spar/PK. How can they do that with a broken HD?

I agree, you shouldn't have to spend any more time on it... but now you do. That's not my fault though. 4 years and barely any content and system after system being 'fixed' until now everyone hates it. All Classic has done is dug itself a hole and yes, it has to be pulled out before adding anything else or else the hole is just going to get deeper.
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:28 PM
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Apparently, with all the complaints, the HD is very important. When everyone finishes all they have to do content-wise(which doesn't take long, no matter how much they add), they do what? Spar/PK. How can they do that with a broken HD?

I agree, you shouldn't have to spend any more time on it... but now you do. That's not my fault though. 4 years and barely any content and system after system being 'fixed' until now everyone hates it. All Classic has done is dug itself a hole and yes, it has to be pulled out before adding anything else or else the hole is just going to get deeper.
The people complain about the HD no matter what HD you put in, they put a default emulation online and everyone complained. We have spar rooms and PK rooms that use the DEFAULT HD, noone uses them. If you put in default HD, noone is going to come back, they will stay on UN. Until everyone magically has the same ping to the server, someone will complain about any HD being used.

Classic dug its hole not making content besides GC events, not by having a certain HD. People don't stay away from classic because of the HD, they stay away because THERE IS NOTHING TO DO. Try playing classic instead of sitting on the sidelines guessing, because you don't have a clue.
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:08 PM
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I dont see how that toall log relates to what I said.
If people keep up the attitude that the dev team does NOTHING worth any praise, they won't develop at all. If you don't develop at all, what does that turn into? Definitely not stagnation, oh no not that.
What if people genuinely don't think that the development team does nothing worth praise? Developers are there to develop, if you're not going to develop then you shouldn't be in the position, not boycotting working under the condition that players praise content that they don't feel is worth praising.

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Classic dug its hole not making content besides GC events, not by having a certain HD. People don't stay away from classic because of the HD, they stay away because THERE IS NOTHING TO DO. Try playing classic instead of sitting on the sidelines guessing, because you don't have a clue.
Even the people who play the server on a regular basis complain in a similar fashion, what do you suggest they do?
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:55 PM
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Developers are there to develop, if you're not going to develop then you shouldn't be in the position, not boycotting working under the condition that players praise content that they don't feel is worth praising.
I think he means it effects them psychologically. It isn't simply a matter of choice, it's something that hits you subconsciously. If players constantly attack you, and criticize everything you make, big or small, you'll begin to lack the enthusiasm and desire you may of had when you begun, and then you'll stop developing altogether. He is suggesting that we use positive reinforcement when dealing with the content presented to us. You can criticize, but do it in a helpful way that won't discourage the developer (and this is not to say that you have to hold their hand and make sure they don't throw a fit; just saying there are other ways of saying 'I hate it' other than 'it sucks').
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