Just close Graal.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

Right now there are 102 players on Era, 82 on Zodiac and 72 on Unholy Nation. That's fantastic. Just last weekend there were over 100 people on Era, 100+ people on Zodiac and about 80 people on UN.

Is this sarcasm? I really hope it is, but I can't tell.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Is this sarcasm? I really hope it is, but I can't tell.

It's not sarcastic. The playercount hasn't moved. That's the point I'm trying to make.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

It's not sarcastic. The playercount hasn't moved. That's the point I'm trying to make.

http://statistics.graal.us/server/graphs/year

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Rufus

http://statistics.graal.us/server/graphs/year

This happens every year watch, a few months from now it'll go right back up.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

This happens every year watch, a few months from now it'll go right back up.

12 months ago.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Rufus

12 months ago.

We'll see.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

We'll see.

What do you mean? 12 months ago the playercount was significantly higher than it is now. 12 months ago being exactly one year ago, so the playercount overall has dropped. Coupled with the fact that there are less development servers now than previously, one would assume...

[Darugo]

I admit, the player count has declined a bit over the years, even though I've been here for only 2 (don't try to look at how long I've been on the forums, I've had a second account ;D)
People try to put the blame on people like Stefan, Unixmad, and Globals. Yes Globals, you shall indeed take some of the blame, everybody needs to take some of the blame, including the players. There has been a recent decline in being NICE to others also, a lack of respect if you will. I will use Zodiac as an example, persay I asked where Goblins are (npc monsters), sure a FAQ might be on, but if not? The players will ignore you, or point you in the direction without help, I feel that blame should be shifted on all of us. Players constantly complaining that Graal did not commit itself fully to advertising. Graal was never a game that COULD be advertised, it cost too much and trials would come and go too much. I usually try to throw in a quick hey look at this game it's pretty fun, with the new Gelat system I can also donate a month to my friends if they are in need of help, the gelat system is very good and will help me in later months. About the new trial system; As a regular said in a topic that was preaching on about how Graal was dead, the trials were leeching off of us, not paying and abusing the system. Instead of creating topics about how Graal sux graal sux close dis **** omg dis shyt is ghey and liek stfen n unyxmud r jst stuleing monies frum us. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. ADVERTISE TO YOUR FRIENDS, TELL THEM ABOUT THIS GAME THAT NEEDS HELP, PUT A MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE, THROW IT OUT TO SEA!!

It's time for less talk more action, Graal has built itself up from the ground (except for the part its kind of like Zelda), get on Graal, start playing, every player helps. Sure there are 3rd mmos and fps and stupid shooters like that, It's time we acted like a real community, shut the hell up, and did something useful. I'm sorry for being a drama queen but jesus christ you guys need to stiffen up. The world of games have been tough, the recession tougher. It's up to YOU to save Graal, it always has been, the playerworlds were what mostly kept Graal alive. Hell learn GS whatever and start latting for servers, who cares if it takes long, instead of complaining on the forums DO SOMETHING FOR THE PEOPLE.
I admit I do believe Stefan and Unixmad are milking the cow until it dies, but hell I am not going to let this cow run dry

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Darugo

It's time for less talk more action, Graal has built itself up from the ground (except for the part its kind of like Zelda), get on Graal, start playing, every player helps.

Why should we force ourselves to log on and play when it's just not fun?

Also, Graal has never been newbie friendly. You can't really associate player-drop with that, because back in the day new players were greeted by jump-squads out of Big Brothers house and constantly sword-raped. And that has nothing to do with the fact Graal was free, because it still carried on like that over the years.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Also, Graal has never been newbie friendly. You can't really associate player-drop with that, because back in the day new players were greeted by jump-squads out of Big Brothers house and constantly sword-raped. And that has nothing to do with the fact Graal was free, because it still carried on like that over the years.

I've got to agree with what he said. The state of the community on the majority of servers has severely deteriorated. It comes with this new culture of internet idiots being glamorized as tough guys. People get away with everything, because like we've spoke about before in private, if you remove these people they somehow weed their way back. There has been no attempt to promote a pleasant community so far, only forced measures as you'd expect, but it needs to be done and it needs to be done well to ensure new players are on good standing when they start playing.

[Darugo]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Why should we force ourselves to log on and play when it's just not fun?

Also, Graal has never been newbie friendly. You can't really associate player-drop with that, because back in the day new players were greeted by jump-squads out of Big Brothers house and constantly sword-raped. And that has nothing to do with the fact Graal was free, because it still carried on like that over the years.

This has been said many times by many players, just leave if you do not like it, but I am not going to do that, and I hope others follow my footsteps.

Just try a different server, yes there are some gem friends in Graal Online, and you are bound to have one or be one. If you don't like it anymore, try being a helpful sport to others on the server you frequent most and give hints and tips.
I can see you have been here long, longer than me infact, hell longer than most people around here. I'm sure over these years, you have been satisfied with the game, you may have or have not been loyal to some servers, or the globals infact, and to change your opinion on something you liked within Graal is a decision made by you and you alone. Maybe if there were some way I could change the way you thought of Graal, I would do my best. So just ask what you want changed, I will do everything in my newbie power to help you.

Edit: I do also want to apologize on being so negative in this thread:
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=84156
It was dumb of me to think that people were not helpful.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Darugo

I can see you have been here long, longer than me infact, hell longer than most people around here. I'm sure over these years, you have been satisfied with the game, you may have or have not been loyal to some servers, or the globals infact, and to change your opinion on something you liked within Graal is a decision made by you and you alone. Maybe if there were some way I could change the way you thought of Graal, I would do my best. So just ask what you want changed, I will do everything in my newbie power to help you.

For a "professional jerk" you sure are nice

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Darugo

This has been said many times by many players, just leave if you do not like it, but I am not going to do that, and I hope others follow my footsteps.

This contradicts your post before, though. First you say we should log on and play, then you say we should leave if we don't like Graal. Us all logging on and 'playing' isn't going to improve anything, just increase the playercount. By increasing the playercount when we're not really having fun will only be counter-productive as then they will have the numbers to back themselves with.

Originally Posted by Darugo

Just try a different server, yes there are some gem friends in Graal Online, and you are bound to have one or be one. If you don't like it anymore, try being a helpful sport to others on the server you frequent most and give hints and tips.

I have tried many servers, and I never really stick around for long. This may be my own personal problem because I have a hard time getting into anything. Regardless... it has been like this for years for me.

Originally Posted by Darugo

I can see you have been here long, longer than me infact, hell longer than most people around here. I'm sure over these years, you have been satisfied with the game, you may have or have not been loyal to some servers, or the globals infact, and to change your opinion on something you liked within Graal is a decision made by you and you alone. Maybe if there were some way I could change the way you thought of Graal, I would do my best. So just ask what you want changed, I will do everything in my newbie power to help you.

A lot has to do with decisions made by the higher-ups that none of us can change. We have tried, but Stefan and Unixmad(I suspect the latter more than the formal) aren't very interested in our opinions.

[Darugo]

[QUOTE=DustyPorViva;1467469]This contradicts your post before, though. First you say we should log on and play, then you say we should leave if we don't like Graal. Us all logging on and 'playing' isn't going to improve anything, just increase the playercount. By increasing the playercount when we're not really having fun will only be counter-productive as then they will have the numbers to back themselves with.

No I said that most people say just get out and leave if you do not like it, but I said no to that because it is rude and we should welcome oldbies like you.
Sorry if that was phrased badly.

Also sorry for getting your membership involved in this.

[Darugo]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Why should we force ourselves to log on and play when it's just not fun?

Also, Graal has never been newbie friendly. You can't really associate player-drop with that, because back in the day new players were greeted by jump-squads out of Big Brothers house and constantly sword-raped. And that has nothing to do with the fact Graal was free, because it still carried on like that over the years.

Also Dusty, it is obvious you have Classic, and I have noticed in another topic you decided you were not upgrading, or atleast pointed that you didn't.
This was, I'm sure, partly why they removed Classic, people went ahead and said "hey why bother upgrading i am already set up enough to not need Gold again"
I am also running on Classic, but once I get some more cash I will GLADLY upgrade to support the community.


Also thank you Rufus

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Darugo

Also Dusty, it is obvious you have Classic, and I have noticed in another topic you decided you were not upgrading, or atleast pointed that you didn't.
This was, I'm sure, partly why they removed Classic, people went ahead and said "hey why bother upgrading i am already set up enough to not need Gold again"
I am also running on Classic, but once I get some more cash I will GLADLY upgrade to support the community.


Also thank you Rufus

It has nothing to do with me having classic. I can understand why they removed classic subscriptions, it was bad for their income. I don't want to upgrade because I have no reason to anymore. I would subscribe just to support Graal if they gave me a reason to, but I'm tired of the way players get treated around the forums and by the higher-ups.