Just close Graal.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Darugo

It's time for less talk more action, Graal has built itself up from the ground (except for the part its kind of like Zelda), get on Graal, start playing, every player helps.

Why should we force ourselves to log on and play when it's just not fun?

Also, Graal has never been newbie friendly. You can't really associate player-drop with that, because back in the day new players were greeted by jump-squads out of Big Brothers house and constantly sword-raped. And that has nothing to do with the fact Graal was free, because it still carried on like that over the years.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Also, Graal has never been newbie friendly. You can't really associate player-drop with that, because back in the day new players were greeted by jump-squads out of Big Brothers house and constantly sword-raped. And that has nothing to do with the fact Graal was free, because it still carried on like that over the years.

I've got to agree with what he said. The state of the community on the majority of servers has severely deteriorated. It comes with this new culture of internet idiots being glamorized as tough guys. People get away with everything, because like we've spoke about before in private, if you remove these people they somehow weed their way back. There has been no attempt to promote a pleasant community so far, only forced measures as you'd expect, but it needs to be done and it needs to be done well to ensure new players are on good standing when they start playing.

[Darugo]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Why should we force ourselves to log on and play when it's just not fun?

Also, Graal has never been newbie friendly. You can't really associate player-drop with that, because back in the day new players were greeted by jump-squads out of Big Brothers house and constantly sword-raped. And that has nothing to do with the fact Graal was free, because it still carried on like that over the years.

This has been said many times by many players, just leave if you do not like it, but I am not going to do that, and I hope others follow my footsteps.

Just try a different server, yes there are some gem friends in Graal Online, and you are bound to have one or be one. If you don't like it anymore, try being a helpful sport to others on the server you frequent most and give hints and tips.
I can see you have been here long, longer than me infact, hell longer than most people around here. I'm sure over these years, you have been satisfied with the game, you may have or have not been loyal to some servers, or the globals infact, and to change your opinion on something you liked within Graal is a decision made by you and you alone. Maybe if there were some way I could change the way you thought of Graal, I would do my best. So just ask what you want changed, I will do everything in my newbie power to help you.

Edit: I do also want to apologize on being so negative in this thread:
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=84156
It was dumb of me to think that people were not helpful.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Darugo

I can see you have been here long, longer than me infact, hell longer than most people around here. I'm sure over these years, you have been satisfied with the game, you may have or have not been loyal to some servers, or the globals infact, and to change your opinion on something you liked within Graal is a decision made by you and you alone. Maybe if there were some way I could change the way you thought of Graal, I would do my best. So just ask what you want changed, I will do everything in my newbie power to help you.

For a "professional jerk" you sure are nice

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Darugo

This has been said many times by many players, just leave if you do not like it, but I am not going to do that, and I hope others follow my footsteps.

This contradicts your post before, though. First you say we should log on and play, then you say we should leave if we don't like Graal. Us all logging on and 'playing' isn't going to improve anything, just increase the playercount. By increasing the playercount when we're not really having fun will only be counter-productive as then they will have the numbers to back themselves with.

Originally Posted by Darugo

Just try a different server, yes there are some gem friends in Graal Online, and you are bound to have one or be one. If you don't like it anymore, try being a helpful sport to others on the server you frequent most and give hints and tips.

I have tried many servers, and I never really stick around for long. This may be my own personal problem because I have a hard time getting into anything. Regardless... it has been like this for years for me.

Originally Posted by Darugo

I can see you have been here long, longer than me infact, hell longer than most people around here. I'm sure over these years, you have been satisfied with the game, you may have or have not been loyal to some servers, or the globals infact, and to change your opinion on something you liked within Graal is a decision made by you and you alone. Maybe if there were some way I could change the way you thought of Graal, I would do my best. So just ask what you want changed, I will do everything in my newbie power to help you.

A lot has to do with decisions made by the higher-ups that none of us can change. We have tried, but Stefan and Unixmad(I suspect the latter more than the formal) aren't very interested in our opinions.

[Darugo]

[QUOTE=DustyPorViva;1467469]This contradicts your post before, though. First you say we should log on and play, then you say we should leave if we don't like Graal. Us all logging on and 'playing' isn't going to improve anything, just increase the playercount. By increasing the playercount when we're not really having fun will only be counter-productive as then they will have the numbers to back themselves with.

No I said that most people say just get out and leave if you do not like it, but I said no to that because it is rude and we should welcome oldbies like you.
Sorry if that was phrased badly.

Also sorry for getting your membership involved in this.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Darugo

No I said that most people say just get out and leave if you do not like it, but I said no to that because it is rude and we should welcome oldbies like you.
Sorry if that was phrased badly.

Also sorry for getting your membership involved in this.

I'm sure people will leave if they're not happy, but that's not a good argument. People should never feel like they have to leave, if they're still here then there is a reason why. Maybe it's to complain, but even so, they're not playing for a reason. Admins should take that into consideration. I'm still here because honestly, I tend to want to help. I like the community and I want to help it out, but they don't make it too easy.

I think Graal has amazing potential, but it's just one bad decision after the next. It's good to see a perspective from a newer player, though. Obviously some people still enjoy it, and I'm not out to stop anyone from enjoying it.

[Darugo]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Why should we force ourselves to log on and play when it's just not fun?

Also, Graal has never been newbie friendly. You can't really associate player-drop with that, because back in the day new players were greeted by jump-squads out of Big Brothers house and constantly sword-raped. And that has nothing to do with the fact Graal was free, because it still carried on like that over the years.

Also Dusty, it is obvious you have Classic, and I have noticed in another topic you decided you were not upgrading, or atleast pointed that you didn't.
This was, I'm sure, partly why they removed Classic, people went ahead and said "hey why bother upgrading i am already set up enough to not need Gold again"
I am also running on Classic, but once I get some more cash I will GLADLY upgrade to support the community.


Also thank you Rufus

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Darugo

Also Dusty, it is obvious you have Classic, and I have noticed in another topic you decided you were not upgrading, or atleast pointed that you didn't.
This was, I'm sure, partly why they removed Classic, people went ahead and said "hey why bother upgrading i am already set up enough to not need Gold again"
I am also running on Classic, but once I get some more cash I will GLADLY upgrade to support the community.


Also thank you Rufus

It has nothing to do with me having classic. I can understand why they removed classic subscriptions, it was bad for their income. I don't want to upgrade because I have no reason to anymore. I would subscribe just to support Graal if they gave me a reason to, but I'm tired of the way players get treated around the forums and by the higher-ups.