"Borrowing" Items

[Sinkler]

Originally Posted by Frankie

yes. it's your choice to trust them. it's not like you're automatically obligated to lend someone your items just because they were your friend on an online game for a few months.

I always lent my **** out to friends. fortunately my friends weren't fake douche bags. tough luck for those who aren't so fortunate, but people suck and will **** you over. not just in games either. lesson learned kids.

Still Frankie, this game is targeted to be played for fun and not to be upset that someone scammed your items. This isn't a game where we're all supposed to feel upset when we play it since we were scammed. It's unethical and not needed. People lending have the right to and a PR watching will insure its safety. There's nothing wrong with that.

[HarlemBalla]

Originally Posted by Frankie

my point is, lending items should be at your own risk

So, players should feel discomfort in letting a friend borrow an item? Nothing should be done to make players feel safer when lending an item to someone?

MY point being, I think something needs to be done to make lending weapons an easier process for players.

[DarkRenji]

dont trust anyone on era, or you will be sorry!

[papajchris]

Originally Posted by DarkRenji

dont trust anyone on era, or you will be sorry!

You betta give my glock back!

[CharlieM]

Okay Frankie, will you lend me all your stuff I promise I will give it back.

[death_striker]

I personaly think that scamming should be legal still

[cbk1994]

What exactly are you guys arguing? I see like three points trying to be made.

[HarlemBalla]

I started this thread to propose an idea for making borrowing trades easier.

Originally Posted by HarlemBalla

Instead of GP having to go to a level to watch them do their trade it may be necessary to add a check box or something in the trade window when where the players agree that they are just lending the items.

If not that, maybe a lending room in the Graal Police Headquarters where a player can lend an item to another player for a set time. These are just two suggestions that could make "getting the story" properly if a lending trade does go wrong.

[jorollychu]

i gave mystic my gatling gun a while ago and he lets me use it and every time he does i pretend im not gonna give it back and he cries.

[Pelikano]

GPs don't exist!

[Vman13x]

I agree with what vin said, make the lending system so people can put a set time, like say someone wants to lend dual deagles to a friend for 30 minutes, after that time is up the deagles automatically get put on the owners account, and if the person logs the item returns back automatically.

[Pelikano]

Originally Posted by Vman13x

I agree with what vin said, make the lending system so people can put a set time, like say someone wants to lend dual deagles to a friend for 30 minutes, after that time is up the deagles automatically get put on the owners account, and if the person logs the item returns back automatically.

Some people here have to realise that Era is not Disney Land

[Nataxo]

Originally Posted by Vman13x

I agree with what vin said, make the lending system so people can put a set time, like say someone wants to lend dual deagles to a friend for 30 minutes, after that time is up the deagles automatically get put on the owners account, and if the person logs the item returns back automatically.

runescape :P

but its a good idea.

[Venom_Fish]

You people are all over the place. Lets rack this up into a clear, concise argument.

Status Quo: Scamming is Illegal.
No one seems to be arguing an affirmative meaning to legalize scamming (except one guy who really didn't have much to say other than that).

So the argument is to what extent that the PRs should enforce the illegal scamming.
(Thats where we're at) Now stay the heck on topic.

My opinion, if scamming is in fact illegal, GPs should enforce that to the utmost extent. If a player says he scams another, that is a confession or something that should be looked into. Just like if you said you killed someone who is deceased, you're a suspect.

Seeing as the GPs are the Judge, Jury, and Executioners... they should act rationally and using LOGIC (dying concept).

On to lending, scamming is ILLEGAL... meaning if a player is borrowing an item and the borrower tries to run with it, that is a S C A M.

Demanding a substantial amount of proof is not DOABLE because players have little to no resources to amount to that standard of proof. PMs are private, so they can be altered... players hardly talking in-between trades, most often you have to log a specific person's chat (don't know if that changed). How can they prove it was a lend if most of that is not submittable? You can't say don't lend, or its stupidity or anything of that nature. Some people have kind hearts, and some are vile and take advantage of those kind-hearted. The Law is supposed to protect the good, and punish the bad. (Idea of law on a kindergarten-level). Therefore you're going to have to find a way to allow lend trades, without all this hassle.

A System like Vin suggested, is appropriate. (Not bothering responding to the other random inputs). Although player logging off or not should be an option, meaning say check if player logs on/off during time. So the item doesn't keep returning if they r.c or something. The time-limit is enough.

[Vman13x]

Well said.