"Borrowing" Items - Page 4

HarlemBalla · #46 08-23-2009, 02:53 AM

Even if it is not possible to return the item when someone logs off, something as simple as a check box where players agree that they are just borrowing would help out a lot. Reason being, if someone is scammed by letting someone borrow their items there is no way for the GP to decipher if they were actually borrowing items. With a borrow agreement check box the GP can go back and easily check if that was the case. Something like this would rid of all these lending scams.

If this is not possible to do or is seen as unnecessary than I do advise that any player involved in a lending trade run a video logger of any conversation you have with someone leading up to your trade and the trade itself.

Pelikano · #47 08-23-2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Stryke

clientr vars. lol

I'm pretty sure they're also all in a SQL-DB. I hope it atleast

jorollychu · #48 08-23-2009, 10:41 AM

imo people should know the risk of lending their guns

cbk1994 · #49 08-23-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelikano

I'm pretty sure they're also all in a SQL-DB. I hope it atleast

As you well know, they aren't. It would be virtually impossible to adapt the current system to SQL, which was released months ago. On Dev, SQL is used to store items, however.

Lime_O_Matic · #50 08-29-2009, 04:57 PM

Hey, being a GP isn't so easy unless you have rules to follow for every case. This helps make decisions alot easier.

Pelikano · #51 08-29-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lime_O_Matic

Hey, being a GP isn't so easy unless you have rules to follow for every case. This helps make decisions alot easier.

Dude all GPs did was:

"I'll talk to Squirt about it"

Spikedude · #52 08-29-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelikano

Dude all GPs did was:

"I'll talk to Squirt about it"

And all you've ever done is whine. Even?

Scary_Sock · #53 08-29-2009, 07:15 PM

Oh god, Pelikano.

Frankie · #54 08-29-2009, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lime_O_Matic

Hey, being a GP isn't so easy unless you have rules to follow for every case. This helps make decisions alot easier.

making decisions as a GP is pretty much common sense. there's nothing hard about it if there were no guidelines to follow.

Lime_O_Matic · #55 08-29-2009, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

making decisions as a GP is pretty much common sense. there's nothing hard about it if there were no guidelines to follow.

Well, not according to the people who made the current rules on Era. If you have no guideline, it will cause people to favor players they like though. So simple guidelines must be put in effect, no matter what.

MontyPython · #56 08-29-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lime_O_Matic

Well, not according to the people who made the current rules on Era. If you have no guideline, it will cause people to favor players they like though. So simple guidelines must be put in effect, no matter what.

Not really.

If you used common sense all of the time, you'd realize that as a select member of a team supposed to provide unbiased justice to the playerbase - favoring someone wouldn't be the right thing to do.

If you need a guideline telling you not to show favoritism to friends and people you want to get something from, you shouldn't be a GP in the first place.

Scary_Sock · #57 08-29-2009, 09:47 PM

Well, I still was confused with this situation that happend with McGyver, Danny Fiery, and Reckman. I won't go into details, but Reckman borrowed McGyver's P2k's that were supposed to be "Danny's", but Reckman also let McGyver borrow his ump. I don't know what happend furthermore, but McGyver got banned, and Reck said "It was a trade" since the logs showed it trading weapons.

Especially how rules say that if you can't wait for a GP, and you let the person borrow your item with no GP (PR) watching, its your fault unless you have proof that he scammed you. It is really easy give fake images. Anyone can edit images ad make them do things that didn't happen. I doubt anyone would take a video of the trade, since they either don't want to download anything, or it takes to long, etc.., and they scam the person. It is stupid.

Spikedude · #58 08-29-2009, 11:51 PM

Guys, this thread isn't about calling out our GPs.

The reason we need formal rules isn't as much a judgement decision on the GPs, but on the players. It's easier to deal with people who are angry about not being able to scam their items than it is to deal with the number of players who say "I WAS LETTING HIM BORROW MY GUN AND BLAHBLAHBLAH." This way, they just always have a GP watch, nobody complains, if someone is still too stupid then they have no excuse.

I've never been one for illegal scamming, but that's just the way it is right now. No need to twist around people's words and call them out over the forums.

Vin, you should propose that idea to Sales, maybe in a Era Community ticket thing.

CharlieM · #59 08-30-2009, 04:16 AM

Xen your not evevn close they were mcguvers reck asked to borrow it stole them prettty much and since the PR team is mentally disabled Squirt with his IQ of 9000 had to fix it so Mcgyver got his p2ks back and reck got an UMP no one got banned

Scary_Sock · #60 08-30-2009, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CharlieM

Xen your not evevn close they were mcguvers reck asked to borrow it stole them prettty much and since the PR team is mentally disabled Squirt with his IQ of 9000 had to fix it so Mcgyver got his p2ks back and reck got an UMP no one got banned

McGyver got banned. Even Reck said so himself. But, I'll take your word on this.

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