Discussion of new playerworld rules

[fowlplay4]

User's should expect their data to stay private, and website operators should make a reasonable attempt to secure user data from malicious use. Operators caught using user data maliciously to harass, spam, or for other illegal activity will not be tolerated.

The hashing thing is way too technical: Passwords stored on external websites should be unrecoverable by website users and operators. Websites that are able to re-produce a password will be warned and should be avoided by users.

[Rave_J]

New rules limits playerworlds so Stefan and unximad should drop 15 dollars off of the price for PW UC

i look at it this way
if its a free website fourms np
if players or whoever is paying for the fourms
then its my call and also paying for the servers

i can c if the servers are free how this would affect but there not
seems like a rip off
to buy a server then have 10000 rules what u cant do on there

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Rave_J

New rules limits playerworlds so Stefan and unximad should drop 15 dollars off of the price for PW UC

i look at it this way
if its a free website fourms np
if players or whoever is paying for the fourms
then its my call and also paying for the servers

i can c if the servers are free how this would affect but there not
seems like a rip off
to buy a server then have 10000 rules what u cant do on there

These new rules do not limit your ability to develop the server in any way, shape or form. All we ask is that if you link to a website from your server, the website follows Graal rules. It's pretty simple and really common sense.

[Unkownsoldier]

So we are allowed to have these third party websites that don't follow the Graal rules that are associated with a server somehow, but aren't actually physically posted/linked on the server?

I like new rules, but I never was into the case by case basis idea. I think that can lead to discrimination based on personal bias or previous information regardless of whether you think you are judging clearly or not - your sub-conscious still controls you. Just my thoughts though.

[Rave_J]

so what about i go too some Big Advertising company to Advertise ur server if some how someone put a Adult game up then will get into trouble ............
limited lol jk

[Clockwork]

Am I the only one that finds it hilarious that the only changes happening are new rules?

"Lets ignore the request for new forum features, request for official iphone forums, conversations about price and advertising, most anything else; and generally avoid being a part of the community, and go ahead and throw in a few more rules."

[Troku]

Funny how six years ago staff could photoshop pictures of players with their throat cut open by said staff member and globals could do nothing about it because the websites were not graal property.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

The hashing thing is way too technical: Passwords stored on external websites should be unrecoverable by website users and operators. Websites that are able to re-produce a password will be warned and should be avoided by users.

What other way are websites using to store passwords in unrecoverable form? o.o

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Clockwork

Am I the only one that finds it hilarious that the only changes happening are new rules?

"Lets ignore the request for new forum features, request for official iphone forums, conversations about price and advertising, most anything else; and generally avoid being a part of the community, and go ahead and throw in a few more rules."

What else can the PWA do tho?

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

What other way are websites using to store passwords in unrecoverable form? o.o

The current "Passwords stored on the websites or databases should be hashed using cryptographically strong hash functions." is too technical, unless you've dabbled in development or have read about it that line won't mean anything.

[Imperialistic]

The rules were altered to save GraalOnline's behind , for legal purposes probably .

[Bell]

Dear lord, lighten up. The wanna be lawyers on this forum never cease to amaze me. Everything said or done here is picked apart to a point that it just becomes another annoyance.

I can totally understand constructive changes that help clarify, but it has to be obvious to anyone with an ounce of sense that these rules were put in writing for the purpose of making it simpler for the PWA to ensure that Graal's external websites that are directly linked to a server stay PG13 and safe for Graal users to actually use. We've been attempting to enforce these rules although they weren't written such as this for several years now.
There is no secret legal conspiracy going on here to protect Graal from lawsuits. I'm happy to leave that to their lawyers. We are not trying to make it more difficult for server developers to make their own little playground of fun and on that note I might remind you that you do not 'buy' servers, you rent them and agree to Graal's terms of service which does not allow you to make a server just so you can use it to harrass and steal from whomever you like.

[fowlplay4]

It was never about "legal issues" or that crap.

The original wording of the new rule discouraged people from creating/having external communities, and that in order for your community to be allowed you had to moderated in a similar fashion to the Graal forums/services.

Upon reading the original rule my response was "You want me to moderate my forums like this place otherwise I can't display it in-game? **** off." Which clearly wasn't your intention with the rule.

[Imperialistic]

As if Administration doesn't have anything better to do , then probably spend hours writing up these recent changes on how third party sites are ran instead of worrying about their own internal issues .

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

It was never about "legal issues" or that crap.

The original wording of the new rule discouraged people from creating/having external communities, and that in order for your community to be allowed you had to moderated in a similar fashion to the Graal forums/services.

Upon reading the original rule my response was "You want me to moderate my forums like this place otherwise I can't display it in-game? **** off." Which clearly wasn't your intention with the rule.

Exactly what I thought upon reading it as well.