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Old 11-24-2010, 07:21 PM
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I often feel that the phrase "Classic Style Server" is used wrongly, Unholy Nation and Npulse are commonly referred to as one but while I realise alot of people have varying ideas as to what the actual Classic Server should be the more common ideal for it among the ages is something much different, I personally don't feel UN is a "Classic Style Server", though the whole situation isn't helped by the fact the PlayerWorlds Tab is/was referred to as the Classic Tab and the fact there has been several different eras of the actual Classic server, I'm not sure if this is in reference to the Server or the Tab, I suppose Graal iPhone does little to create a more accurate perception too.

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Old 11-24-2010, 08:40 PM
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I often feel that the phrase "Classic Style Server" is used wrongly, Unholy Nation and Npulse are commonly referred to as one but while I realise alot of people have varying ideas as to what the actual Classic Server should be the more common ideal for it among the ages is something much different, I personally don't feel UN is a "Classic Style Server", though the whole situation isn't helped by the fact the PlayerWorlds Tab is/was referred to as the Classic Tab and the fact there has been several different eras of the actual Classic server, I'm not sure if this is in reference to the Server or the Tab, I suppose Graal iPhone does little to create a more accurate perception too.
it has swords so players can spar and PK, so it's classic-type. don't try to make it more complicated than that
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it has swords so players can spar and PK, so it's classic-type. don't try to make it more complicated than that
You can Spar and PK on Era too.
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You can Spar and PK on Era too.
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and swords, actually.
your point being?

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ya so dey r clasic style servrs 2 it doesnt hav 2 b mor complicated dan that




So does sword power not apply to Unholy Nation then? (apart from the fact you obtain level 3 from something like a random slot machine)
i'd hardly call doing quests on UN any form of leveling-up. if you'd like to try and make an actual coherent point about why UN shouldn't be classified as the only legitimate classic-styled server left, then go ahead and try. if you cannot accept the simplicity of what i've said before about classifying classic-styled servers, then allow me to elaborate on the subject for you:

UN has no other NPCs or other type of weapons in which people can seriously spar or PK with - you get the typical LTTP sword and that is all. we can completely put aside NPC-lamers and the like, because anyone who is anyone will PK inside TCPK where only swords are allowed - the same can be said of sparring which only takes place in TCSpar. the quests on UN have never been central to anything on the server, ever. i personally have never done the quests on UN because they are redundant, and not at all the reason why i sign onto UN - i sign on to UN because of it's the only server who uses the default sword, and utilizes it as it's main focus, unlike era or GK or any other server you people have decided to try and poke holes in my simpler explanation. even npulse came closer to this realization when they did away with questing and automatically gave players the same amount of hearts, sword power, shield power, etc. as they then focused upon the competitive aspects of sword fighting rather than questing.

so again, to reiterate the point, the classic-style server is one which focuses almost exclusively upon LTTP sword-style competition and nothing else (and if you seriously try to say that UN's main focus is not on the LTTP sword-style, then you obviously have not spent enough time on UN and have no idea what you're talking about)
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comparing UN with ALttP
You're an idiot.

UN has a sword. Okay. It doesn't focus on that. There is pking with novel NPCs to interrupt it. There is sparing. But neither of those are the bulk of the server. UN revolves around literally nothing. Just chatting and trading, the latter of which includes events and novel jobs. There is no questline, there is no plot, there is nothing that even makes it resemble ALttP besides the fact you have the sword.

UN is just a sort of hub-world from which you can access the small minigames, like working, bowling, events. And rather than trying to add some sort of actual over-arching gameplay to UN, they just keep adding more side things to mess around with, that will ultimately get old. RPG-center anyone?

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UN has no other NPCs or other type of weapons in which people can seriously spar or PK with - you get the typical LTTP sword and that is all.
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your point being?



i'd hardly call doing quests on UN any form of leveling-up. if you'd like to try and make an actual coherent point about why UN shouldn't be classified as the only legitimate classic-styled server left, then go ahead and try. if you cannot accept the simplicity of what i've said before about classifying classic-styled servers, then allow me to elaborate on the subject for you:

UN has no other NPCs or other type of weapons in which people can seriously spar or PK with - you get the typical LTTP sword and that is all. we can completely put aside NPC-lamers and the like, because anyone who is anyone will PK inside TCPK where only swords are allowed - the same can be said of sparring which only takes place in TCSpar. the quests on UN have never been central to anything on the server, ever. i personally have never done the quests on UN because they are redundant, and not at all the reason why i sign onto UN - i sign on to UN because of it's the only server who uses the default sword, and utilizes it as it's main focus, unlike era or GK or any other server you people have decided to try and poke holes in my simpler explanation. even npulse came closer to this realization when they did away with questing and automatically gave players the same amount of hearts, sword power, shield power, etc. as they then focused upon the competitive aspects of sword fighting rather than questing.

so again, to reiterate the point, the classic-style server is one which focuses almost exclusively upon LTTP sword-style competition and nothing else (and if you seriously try to say that UN's main focus is not on the LTTP sword-style, then you obviously have not spent enough time on UN and have no idea what you're talking about)
Where have I said UN doesn't focus almost exclusively on sword combat?
I would actually agree with you that this is perhaps the single biggest element of gameplay on UN since its existence, though to say this is what Classic Style Servers are about is very single minded, I don't recall being able to fight other players with your sword in Link to the Past, but I do remember venturing through dungeons.

Now the original Classic had both Quests and Sparring/PKing, I'm well aware that not everybody even liked the Quests, some actually despised Tyhm for his re-structuring of the server towards his storyline, but the vast majority of genuine new players (atleast back then) played Graal because of its similarities to LTTP, but there couldn't have been many that would have logged on and immediately began sparring, this is just one element from Classic that UN took and was focussed on more heavily.
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