iPhone Graal

OiRodgar · #1 09-11-2010, 03:48 PM

Today I played Graal Online Classic for iPhone for the first time . I was just wondering if there are any quests except that stupid Onett Forest Quest.

Though I don't get it why there are 1700 players just idling and farming.

papajchris · #2 09-11-2010, 05:16 PM

It's very boring IMO. I just give people free kills by idling in okzones and moving every Now and then

qw3rt · #3 09-11-2010, 08:39 PM

mmh no, and Iphone staff know we need some quests i hope they'll work on it.
For now it's Mainly all about Scores :/

Geno · #4 09-21-2010, 07:18 AM

it was fun for a min. i like the 15 yr old "Admins"

OK FIRST 3 PPL TO FIND ME GET A HAT!!!

i guess hiring professional staff members is just too hard or too expensive?

Bubble13 · #5 09-21-2010, 03:09 PM

Lol that's how it is. I've been playing iPhone for some time now and the only reason I didn't delete it is because it can be fun once in a while. But, yes, most of the admins are 12-16. And, no, they won't make any more quests.

Zeke_iPhoneGP · #6 09-21-2010, 03:27 PM

How do you know what we will and won't do? I'll tell you how, you don't. We work everyday to bring new stuff to the server. So don't post if you don't know what you are talking about.

kia345 · #7 09-21-2010, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke_iPhoneGP

How do you know what we will and won't do? I'll tell you how, you don't. We work everyday to bring new stuff to the server. So don't post if you don't know what you are talking about.

This is also how developers on pc Graal talk, and they usually fail to deliver too.

And I'm not just talking about playerworld and classic devs.

Outlaw_P2P · #8 09-21-2010, 08:12 PM

hahahah *****

Outlaw_P2P · #9 09-21-2010, 08:13 PM

*Lmao

Geno · #10 09-21-2010, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke_iPhoneGP

How do you know what we will and won't do? I'll tell you how, you don't. We work everyday to bring new stuff to the server. So don't post if you don't know what you are talking about.

HALLELUJAH for countless hat re-colors and useless items like the hula hoop!!!

gotta make sure iGraal has plenty of GP's RIGHT BRO!?!?!?!????!?!

who hired the graal iphone team anyways!? are there any global graal staff members that oversee that daycare?

Stephen · #11 09-21-2010, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Geno

HALLELUJAH for countless hat re-colors and useless items like the hula hoop!!!

gotta make sure iGraal has plenty of GP's RIGHT BRO!?!?!?!????!?!

who hired the graal iphone team anyways!? are there any global graal staff members that oversee that daycare?

Maybe Graal iPhone isn't up to par with your discriminating taste but for the hundreds of paying customers it's just fine. That paints an ugly picture of the average iPhone users - but their money is still green, right?

As far as I'm concerned it's the shot in the arm Eurocenter needs to produce some meaningful content... which is what we're all waiting for.

Bubble13 · #12 09-21-2010, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke_iPhoneGP

How do you know what we will and won't do? I'll tell you how, you don't. We work everyday to bring new stuff to the server. So don't post if you don't know what you are talking about.

Oh sure new stuff. Every time you say that, it takes either a very long time or it never happens. What happened to the horses?

Zeke_iPhoneGP · #13 09-21-2010, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubble13

Oh sure new stuff. Every time you say that, it takes either a very long time or it never happens. What happened to the horses?

Horses? They were scripts left in a stable off map. People glitched over and got them, and there weren't even any graphics for them, they were invisible, and they were removed.

Bubble13 · #14 09-21-2010, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke_iPhoneGP

Horses? They were scripts left in a stable off map. People glitched over and got them, and there weren't even any graphics for them, they were invisible, and they were removed.

We were told we would get them but that's how it is I guess. And what about the many lag and start up problems? Every update supposedly fixes them but it just gets worse.

Bubble13 · #15 09-21-2010, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345

This is also how developers on pc Graal talk, and they usually fail to deliver too.

And I'm not just talking about playerworld and classic devs.

No, it's just that classic admins are bad and inexperienced.

papajchris · #16 09-21-2010, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubble13

No, it's just that classic admins are just bad and inexperienced.

No it's that classic admins got a big graal ego

Rufus · #17 09-21-2010, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Maybe Graal iPhone isn't up to par with your discriminating taste but for the hundreds of paying customers it's just fine. That paints an ugly picture of the average iPhone users - but their money is still green, right?

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Originally Posted by Stephen

As far as I'm concerned it's the shot in the arm Eurocenter needs to produce some meaningful content... which is what we're all waiting for.

Seems a little contradicting..

Bubble13 · #18 09-21-2010, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by papajchris

No it's that classic admins got a big graal ego

That too lol

Bubble13 · #19 09-21-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus

Seems a little contradicting..

No, people pay for items on iphone but only because that's the only way to enjoy the game. People buy gralat packs because the prices for in game items are sky high and that's the only way to buy them, by buying packs.

Rufus · #20 09-21-2010, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubble13

No, people pay for items on iphone but only because that's the only way to enjoy the game. People buy gralat packs because the prices for in game items are sky high and that's the only way to buy them, by buying packs.

I don't think you understand. If people are more than willing to pay for recycled content (with minimal effort placed into the 'production' of it) then I don't see how this is an incentive to put time in to produce "meaningful" content that "we" have been waiting for.

Bubble13 · #21 09-21-2010, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus

I don't think you understand. If people are more than willing to pay for recycled content with minimal effort placed into it, I don't see how this is an incentive to put time in to produce "meaningful" content.

Yeah I guess you're right. But the admins definitely think it is, and unfortunately, their word is law.

fowlplay4 · #22 09-21-2010, 10:52 PM

It's a pretty social/casual game so it caters to the people who enjoy that aspect of it and the development is driven by Stefan/unixmad so it's just from one random idea to another.

Bubble13 · #23 09-21-2010, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

It's a pretty social/casual game so it caters to the people who enjoy that aspect of it and the development is driven by Stefan/unixmad so it's just from one random idea to another.

The ideas may be fine, but there are a ton of problems that don't get fixed. Ever.

ffcmike · #24 09-21-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Maybe Graal iPhone isn't up to par with your discriminating taste but for the hundreds of paying customers it's just fine. That paints an ugly picture of the average iPhone users - but their money is still green, right?

As far as I'm concerned it's the shot in the arm Eurocenter needs to produce some meaningful content... which is what we're all waiting for.

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Originally Posted by Rufus

Seems a little contradicting..

Assuming Stephen is being sarcastic this happens to be the exact impression I get: plenty of people play the iPhone server, it's having a good effect on PC Graals playercount, it's making money, so we're all expected to withhold criticism, ignore the obvious cracks and pretend everything is okay.

Bubble13 · #25 09-21-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ffcmike

Assuming Stephen is being sarcastic this happens to be the exact impression I get: plenty of people play the iPhone server, it's having a good effect on PC Graals playercount, it's making money, so we're all expected to withhold criticism, ignore the obvious cracks and pretend everything is okay.

So according to you the only idea is to make money?

kia345 · #26 09-21-2010, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubble13

So according to you the only idea is to make money?

No, Graal exists for you to have fun. The single objective of Eurocenter is to bring happiness to its players, in an exciting and well tended online world.

Not to sell content that people make for them.

ffcmike · #27 09-21-2010, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubble13

So according to you the only idea is to make money?

I didn't actually say that did I?
But for the record I remember back in December 2009 Stefan logging into RC on PC Classic to discuss iPhone Classic before it had even been approved as an application, he wasn't entirely sure of what he wanted to do with the server.... with the exception of the pricing policy (not that I actually disagree with the concept).

Bubble13 · #28 09-21-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ffcmike

I didn't actually say that did I?
But for the record I remember back in December 2009 Stefan logging into RC on PC Classic to discuss iPhone Classic before it had even been approved as an application, he wasn't entirely sure of what he wanted to do with the server.... with the exception of the pricing policy (not that I actually disagree with the concept).

Well that pricing policy makes it harder to have fun. (That was for kia345.)

Geno · #29 09-22-2010, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Maybe Graal iPhone isn't up to par with your discriminating taste but for the hundreds of paying customers it's just fine. That paints an ugly picture of the average iPhone users - but their money is still green, right?

As far as I'm concerned it's the shot in the arm Eurocenter needs to produce some meaningful content... which is what we're all waiting for.

congrats on euro center making some money, they do have a nice scheme going with gralat packs and high hat prices, if i thought of it i would have done the same thing and created my own server. ... i wonder if someone made a popular server and ran a scheme like this if euro center would allow this.... gives me good incentive for working for real on a server... actual profit!

discriminating is the wrong word there, I was just voicing my opinion in a negative manor to express what i feel is wrong with iGraal. Not to discriminate against 15 yr olds, I just don't like the fact that people not capable of running a server are running the most popular server graal has to offer.

on a side note im sure there are 15 yr olds that could run the server great...just not the ones they have selected.

qw3rt · #30 09-22-2010, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubble13

Lol that's how it is. I've been playing iPhone for some time now and the only reason I didn't delete it is because it can be fun once in a while. But, yes, most of the admins are 12-16. And, no, they won't make any more quests.

Admins 12-16?

i think u mean some GPs who are in nothing related with Devs staff which are obviously older i didn't learn algorithmic when i was 12-16 at school o.O but in colledge.

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Originally Posted by Bubble13

No, it's just that classic admins are bad and inexperienced.

GP like they are not dev, host events to keep some fun i know it may be boring sometimes but it's better than nothing and instead keeping the game safe and hosting some events it's not their job it doesn't mean they are inexperienced.
As for admins, i mean devs, if they were so inexperienced we wouldn't be here talking about graal.
Devs on the iphone staff are few so they can't be faster, it takes times i know.

Bubble13 · #31 09-22-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by qw3rt

Admins 12-16?

i think u mean some GPs who are in nothing related with Devs staff which are obviously older i didn't learn algorithmic when i was 12-16 at school o.O but in colledge.

GP like they are not dev, host events to keep some fun i know it may be boring sometimes com it's better than nothing and instead keeping the game safe and hosting some events it's not their job it doesn't mean they are inexperienced.
As for admins, i mean devs, if they were so inexperienced we wouldn't be here talking about graal.
Devs on the iphone staff are few so they can't be faster, it takes times i know.

Well, the GPs are the ones we see on a regular basis. The dev staff may be older but aren't any more mature. Half the staff only got hired because they're popular.

Precise · #32 09-22-2010, 06:52 PM

I played for two mins, and dominated everybody.

Gameover, whats next to do on a platform that supports your finger on a few touch-screen arrrow keys?

Oh right, Walking around.

qw3rt · #33 09-22-2010, 07:09 PM

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Well, the GPs are the ones we see on a regular basis. The dev staff may be older but aren't any more mature. Half the staff only got hired because they're popular.

Yes some GPs come from the server, it's beter they know the server better than someone outside(i mean the life ingame) and finally i think the popularity is a proof of confidence, by hiring someone popular, you know him, and so you can trust him or not.
Cause hiring someone you didn't know just because his/her application seems perfect may be risked

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But i know, some people who aren't popular at all can do a good job too or even some popular

.

you're a bit strict with admins lol

Bubble13 · #34 09-22-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by qw3rt

Yes some GPs come from the server, it's beter they know the server better than someone outside(i mean the life ingame) and finally i think the popularity is a proof of confidence, by hiring someone popular, you know him, and so you can trust him or not.
Cause hiring someone you didn't know just because his/her application seems perfect may be risked

.
But i know, some people who aren't popular at all can do a good job too or even some popular

.

you're a bit strict with admins lol

What I mean by "popular" is that the players know them, not the staff.
And it's not too hard to know the server, so they aren't hired for that.

salesman · #35 09-22-2010, 08:01 PM

so who are the "dev staff" for Classic iPhone?

Bubble13 · #36 09-22-2010, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman

so who are the "dev staff" for Classic iPhone?

There are lots of them.

qw3rt · #37 09-22-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubble13

What I mean by "popular" is that the players know them, not the staff.

I know

(a bit concerned)

for the server i mean knows guilds, players who play often, it's not a real criteria but a + for someone who know the server but not the people in it.

--Chris-- · #38 09-26-2010, 01:14 AM

Similar to customers that are loyal and spread positive word of mouth (apostles), there are also protesters.

The criticism they leave is derived from a sincere feeling of dissonance many times, including those in this thread. Whether or not something is actually being done, it is disrespectful for you to take an offensive approach to this game's community/_customers_. Do some re-evaluating, GP.

This introductory stage of the "iGraal" product is vital. It is believed that retaining a customer, even in the form of a player, is 10x more difficult than obtaining new ones. There are many substitutes in different forms - even free browser game.

The only way Graal for iPhone will continue to be successful is if you *maintain* the satisfaction of these players. Timing is everything - perhaps it should not have even been released until said promises have been

My 2 cents.

Bubble13 · #39 09-26-2010, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by --Chris--

Similar to customers that are loyal and spread positive word of mouth (apostles), there are also protesters.

The criticism they leave is derived from a sincere feeling of dissonance many times, including those in this thread. Whether or not something is actually being done, it is disrespectful for you to take an offensive approach to this game's community/_customers_. Do some re-evaluating, GP.

This introductory stage of the "iGraal" product is vital. It is believed that retaining a customer, even in the form of a player, is 10x more difficult than obtaining new ones. There are many substitutes in different forms - even free browser game.

The only way Graal for iPhone will continue to be successful is if you *maintain* the satisfaction of these players. Timing is everything - perhaps it should not have even been released until said promises have been

My 2 cents.

I totally agree with that last part.

Cosss · #40 09-26-2010, 05:43 AM

I didn't know they had devs I thought they just shoved some Tweens in a box with boots and jail tools