Graal 'Classic' 3D (picture heavy)

trifle · #1 03-22-2010, 05:58 PM

I made this because I would have loved to play a Graal (Classic) 3D game.

These models are extreamly low poly, and the textures is as you can all see mostly taken from pics1.png, although since it's all 2d, I had to make some alterations to make it fit to the 3d models (harder then it looks, lol). That means it would run super smooth if converted into a game correctly.
Since Graal is mostly about pking, sparring and events, it would be awesome to have a 60fps + gameplay.

Anyway, hope you like what I have done so far.

Grey · #2 03-22-2010, 06:13 PM

Good job. I love them.

The grass is a bit odd but I can't think of a better way of representing it in 3D.

salesman · #3 03-22-2010, 06:15 PM

Cool. I'd love to see a character in 3d

Cloven · #4 03-22-2010, 06:18 PM

Very nice.

Crow · #5 03-22-2010, 06:38 PM

You got the wrong tiles for the fence post connection. Besides that, awesome work. Requesting a classic Graal client, behaving exactly like the one we know and use, but build using your 3D stuff, so we can rotate and tilt our view.

Door · #6 03-22-2010, 06:46 PM

hahaha that's pretty awesome pal. I can totally imagine a custom Halflife level tailored to look like Graal with this stuff. It would be.. surreal. LOL imagine.

Crono · #7 03-22-2010, 06:52 PM

trifle · #8 03-22-2010, 06:59 PM

Thanks everybody

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Originally Posted by Crow

You got the wrong tiles for the fence post connection. Besides that, awesome work. Requesting a classic Graal client, behaving exactly like the one we know and use, but build using your 3D stuff, so we can rotate and tilt our view.

Yeah, I guess, but now I got 2!

XyphosMisery · #9 03-22-2010, 07:09 PM

Very nice. Its all awesome.

jorollychu · #10 03-22-2010, 07:14 PM

so hot

James · #11 03-22-2010, 07:30 PM

Mark Sir Link · #12 03-22-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jorollychu

so hot

ya

Deas_Voice · #13 03-22-2010, 08:11 PM

i approve this thread for awesomeness.

Luda · #14 03-22-2010, 08:19 PM

awesome stuff per

Soala · #15 03-22-2010, 08:33 PM

cool stuff

KrimsonSky · #16 03-22-2010, 08:33 PM

Hmm, very nice :]

adam · #17 03-22-2010, 08:50 PM

Great work!

Demisis_P2P · #18 03-22-2010, 09:01 PM

excellent work

DustyPorViva · #19 03-22-2010, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Door

hahaha that's pretty awesome pal. I can totally imagine a custom Halflife level tailored to look like Graal with this stuff. It would be.. surreal. LOL imagine.

New word of the week, Door?

Fulg0reSama · #20 03-22-2010, 09:10 PM

lol, Anyone else getting a toontown vibe here?

Nice stuff bro

Door · #21 03-22-2010, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

New word of the week, Door?

No I was referring to two different types of surreal. In this case it would be a totally personal subjective surreality. In YOUR case I was referring to the art movement.

Umat · #22 03-22-2010, 10:03 PM

I'm getting N64 wibes over here. :>

Clockwork · #23 03-22-2010, 10:07 PM

Awesome :3

salesman · #24 03-22-2010, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by trifle

Thanks everybody

Yeah, I guess, but now I got 2!

I think the middle part of the fence should have some thickness, but other than that it looks nice.

DustyPorViva · #25 03-22-2010, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman

I think the middle part of the fence should have some thickness, but other than that it looks nice.

It's a 3D thing... a very, very useful way to save polygons. Establishing any sort of depth on such a thing like that will crank up the polygons fast, especially when you consider the fact that same polygon will be shown a lot(fences are long!).

It's why you see the same effect on n64/PSX games... and even on the PS2/gamecube games in some areas.

salesman · #26 03-22-2010, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

It's a 3D thing... a very, very useful way to save polygons. Establishing any sort of depth on such a thing like that will crank up the polygons fast, especially when you consider the fact that same polygon will be shown a lot(fences are long!).

It's why you see the same effect on n64/PSX games... and even on the PS2/gamecube games in some areas.

I figured it had something to do with that, but I didn't really think he was planning on using these in a game. Good work nonetheless.

Stephen · #27 03-22-2010, 11:26 PM

Fun. The biggest problem is making an acceptable 3D classic-style character, and after that, presenting the 3D world in a acceptable classic camera-angle.

I think the only way you could present the 3D world, as far as camera angle goes, is some sort of close-crop light fish-eye effect. I've never seen any of it done though.

DustyPorViva · #28 03-22-2010, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Fun. The biggest problem is making an acceptable 3D classic-style character, and after that, presenting the 3D world in a acceptable classic camera-angle.

I think the only way you could present the 3D world, as far as camera angle goes, is some sort of close-crop light fish-eye effect. I've never seen any of it done though.

The style of the DS pokemon games would suit Graal insanely well.

Stephen · #29 03-22-2010, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

The style of the DS pokemon games would suit Graal insanely well.

Looks very nice to me. The character is sprite-generated?

DustyPorViva · #30 03-22-2010, 11:43 PM

Well actually, most of the overworld is sprite generated(characters, trees, fences).

It's just the camera is mainly from one viewpoint, thus they can get away with it.

Dnegel · #31 03-23-2010, 12:03 AM

Swwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwweeet!

Make more! <3

Crono · #32 03-23-2010, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Looks very nice to me. The character is sprite-generated?

such simple tiling

Luda · #33 03-23-2010, 12:21 AM

Pokemon DS so hot

trifle · #34 03-23-2010, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Fun. The biggest problem is making an acceptable 3D classic-style character, and after that, presenting the 3D world in a acceptable classic camera-angle.

I think the only way you could present the 3D world, as far as camera angle goes, is some sort of close-crop light fish-eye effect. I've never seen any of it done though.

I will try and make a character soon. It will be challenging, but not impossible (I hope).
The biggest problem with graal characters is that they are taller then 32 pixels, but the doors are not, lol, but we don't care because of the perspective. But in 3d it would be strange to have a door the half of someones hight.
Will probably have to make the doors be like twise as tall and 50% wider.

About the camera view, It would be possible to have a fixed default camera. But why not take advantage of the 3rd dimention when it's there? It should be possible to have a first persion look around view (like when you aim in Zelda 64 sort of).

My oppinion anyway.

Nisube · #35 03-23-2010, 01:01 AM

Very nice, I like the spinning effect

oo_jazz_oo · #36 03-23-2010, 01:17 AM

This stuff is very awesome.

This is what graal-3d should look like.

DustyPorViva · #37 03-23-2010, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by trifle

I will try and make a character soon. It will be challenging, but not impossible (I hope).
The biggest problem with graal characters is that they are taller then 32 pixels, but the doors are not, lol, but we don't care because of the perspective. But in 3d it would be strange to have a door the half of someones hight.
Will probably have to make the doors be like twise as tall and 50% wider.

About the camera view, It would be possible to have a fixed default camera. But why not take advantage of the 3rd dimention when it's there? It should be possible to have a first persion look around view (like when you aim in Zelda 64 sort of).

My oppinion anyway.

Because Graal's dimensions/proportions/style are not really suited for a 3D environment, I think.