4 Years of being stagnant

[maximus_asinus]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

@Rufus: I just haven't seen that many people complain so much from other parties.

The list of people who complained was quite large (someone higher up had to of noticed something, because Nighty gave the go ahead to switch back). I complained, and I'm not in US, and I am on the verge of hating Rufus because every post he makes against the development of Classic is both ironic and hypocritical since he is sitting on a server with no plans on a release. He doesn't tell me what to do, or whatever you're trying to suggest there.

[MysticX2X]

@Gladius: When have i asked you whether you thought the HD was good or not? I made the statement you were one of the people complaining it sucked and you're now telling people to back off the Developers.
@Xaphan: Ummmmmmmmmm, I'm sure most thought it was alright/better. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I think when the poll was posted, there as an extra informational notice of some locations with clientside HD to test it out.
@Max: Yeah i know a lot of people complained, some not even US, but I was pointing out some more than others. Literally it was the US guild who complained after the monthly in 20 masses how they couldnt hit anyone. Literally it was the US guild who made the most posts here to take out Clientside. I don't even like the HD but i can just live with it. I lived with serverside for months...

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

No, the comparison wasn't perfect. But the point should be obvious. You essentially got what you asked for. Shut up and be happy. You could have just as easily gotten no presents or something completely different like a barbie doll (in the case of graal, no additions or a strange HD you didn't ask for.) The dev team actually listened to the players and gave them something they asked for; don't ***** because it isn't perfect or everything you hoped it'd be.

when money changes hands it ceases to be a gift

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

You essentially got what you asked for.

No they didn't. Have you read anything in this thread? You seem to skip the part where the HD is below par.

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

Shut up and be happy.

Why?

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

You could have just as easily gotten no presents or something completely

Not a good argument. What if Classic hires a substandard scripter, and this scripter works for months and months on a 'new system' for Classic. He actually works his ass off, but because he is a substandard scripter, when he finally releases it it is pretty damn bad and ultimately breaks the server. Nothing is hardly functional, HD sucks, movement sucks, lots of bugs. But he worked his ass off! Does that mean "we should be happy with it because we could have got nothing?" That's basically what you're saying here, because Thor worked and tried to give people what they wanted, they should be happy with it... it doesn't work like that. Have some standards, or else people will release substandard things because they know people don't give a ****.

[BlackSolider]

The people asked for clientside. They got a clientside HD. I don't know exactly what they were expecting. Maybe they didn't realize there would be a 'no-hit' issue with it. If thats the case, the people are stupid for uninformed voting. Maybe I'm wrong in the case that not all clientside HDs have this problem. I don't know enough about HDs to know that. What I do know is that IF the people knew about the 'no-hit' issue and voted for it anyways, they should NOT be *****ing about it.

IF the classic players wanted a new movement system and the dude made one, they should be happy that he DID make a new movement system. If the system sucks ass, then yes they can be mad at the system. But don't be mad at the dev for giving them something they wanted. Be mad that the movement system didn't work like it was advertised to.

Look. I have some standards. No, the HD is not that good at we have a right to be mad about it. But we shouldn't yell at Thor about it because he did give us what we asked for (which doesn't seem to happen often enough.) You can talk with thor about how to make it better, but DO NOT call thor a horrible dev or a bad worker just b/c the HD isn't perfect.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

The people asked for clientside. They got a clientside HD. I don't know exactly what they were expecting. Maybe they didn't realize there would be a 'no-hit' issue with it. If thats the case, the people are stupid for uninformed voting. Maybe I'm wrong in the case that not all clientside HDs have this problem.

You are wrong. Not all clientside HD has this problem.

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

I don't know enough about HDs to know that. What I do know is that IF the people knew about the 'no-hit' issue and voted for it anyways, they should NOT be *****ing about it.

Probably people who are unaware of how this stuff works, which is sounding like you. Their votes are pretty much null because they vote just to vote and want to be 'happy' with it just because it is released.

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

IF the classic players wanted a new movement system and the dude made one, they should be happy that he DID make a new movement system. If the system sucks ass, then yes they can be mad at the system. But don't be mad at the dev for giving them something they wanted. Be mad that the movement system didn't work like it was advertised to.

You're confused. No one is mad, they just don't like the HD. I can't speak for everyone, of course, but like I have said many, many times, people acknowledge that Thor worked hard on the HD. That doesn't excuse the fact it's bad, though.

[maximus_asinus]

I never once asked for Clientside. I asked for the default hit detection, or something that emulated it exactly. We have yet to get this.

Maybe I'm wrong in the case that not all clientside HDs have this problem.

A properly scripted one would not. Thor and Hell Raven have told me that there is ways to create a fully functional system, but are able to create one because of certain limitations which weren't fully explained to me.

[jorollychu]

the limitations are obviously in their coding skills maximus

[BlackSolider]

Ok then. If people asked for a clientside that works and got one that has a flaw that other clientsides don't, then they have a right to be pissed.

I don't know enough about HDs to know how "no-hit" flaw might be in one clientside and not in another.

But all I know is if people knew there was a flaw, asked for it anyways, then complained about it, they have no right to complain.

Apparently this is not the case so my bad.