Bell, the New PWA? - Page 9

Lord Sephiroth · #**121** 02-12-2007, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

I really don't see what the fuss is about, maybe because I don't want to be a global.

SHUT UP FOR CHRISTS SAKE.

We don't give a DAMN about being Global stop TALKING DOWN TO US and STOP PRETENDING LIKE YOU KNOW US.

Read what we say, think about what we say, and quit making assumptions and judgements.

Darlene159 · #**122** 02-12-2007, 02:46 AM

How about if we back up, and try to have a discussion, instead of calling names, and getting angry?

Devil · #**123** 02-12-2007, 02:48 AM

Is there a problem with not going with the crowd Darlene?

All I see is when something happens around here, everyone goes with the flow and doesn't give their real opinion, then when people like myself, Andy or L Sep give a REAL opinion on how we feel, we receive this kind of crap?

Lord Sephiroth · #**124** 02-12-2007, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

How about if we back up, and try to have a discussion, instead of calling names, and getting angry?

Because when we try to have a discussion you get some clouded impression that you know everything about us and you make judgements and talk down to us, then you try to shrug off the situation as if we're your disobedient children complaining in a supermarket.

Contrary to popular belief, even though we may not have the IMPRESSIVE EXISTENTIAL TITLE OF SUPERMOD, we are people and we have valid opinions and points that you need to start listening to.

Devil · #**125** 02-12-2007, 02:49 AM

I honestly think I couldn't put my point across better than L Sep can at the moment, that sums it all up in his post.. we pay the wages around here, don't forget that.

Andy0687 · #**126** 02-12-2007, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil

we pay the wages around here, don't forget that.

I dont think they will forget so fast as they just dont care. Money is already in their pocket for at least 1 upgrade.

If we arent actively upgrading, we arent considered customers.

xXziroXx · #**127** 02-12-2007, 02:52 AM

Im beginning to wonder if you guys just disagree for the sake of it, or if you actually feel the way you do. Who the HELL cares? Lets use an example!

If you own a shop IRL, wouldnt you hire your FRIENDS if you knew they were CAPABLE of doing the job needed? Of course you would before searching elsewhere! Is it different on Graal or any other online based game/site/business? NO! For crying out loud, stop behaving like irrational children.

Andy0687 · #**128** 02-12-2007, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx

If you own a shop IRL, wouldnt you hire your FRIENDS if you knew they were CAPABLE of doing the job needed? Of course you would before searching elsewhere!

I would actually still search elsewhere to make sure I have the most qualified canadate.

Buisness does NOT grow strictly on friendship.

What part of that is so hard to understand?

Darlene159 · #**129** 02-12-2007, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil

Is there a problem with not going with the crowd Darlene?

All I see is when something happens around here, everyone goes with the flow and doesn't give their real opinion, then when people like myself, Andy or L Sep give a REAL opinion on how we feel, we receive this kind of crap?

Everyone goes with the flow? There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with something, or having our own opinions. It becomes a problem when people become angry because the other person isn't agreeing with them. Just because a person does not agree with another person doesn't mean the point isn't understood.

xXziroXx · #**130** 02-12-2007, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy0687

I would actually still search elsewhere to make sure I have the most qualified canadate.

Buisness does NOT grow strictly on friendship.

What part of that is so hard to understand?

In alot of cases, YES - it does. What part of THAT is so hard to understand?

Devil · #**131** 02-12-2007, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx

Im beginning to wonder if you guys just disagree for the sake of it, or if you actually feel the way you do. Who the HELL cares? Lets use an example!

If you own a shop IRL, wouldnt you hire your FRIENDS if you knew they were CAPABLE of doing the job needed? Of course you would before searching elsewhere! Is it different on Graal or any other online based game/site/business? NO! For crying out loud, stop behaving like irrational children.

The words of a man who knows nothing of business.

If my friends came to me and said "Hey I want to work with you, you earn alot of money, we want some too" they can go to hell. You don't hire friends in business, you keep them seperate or it's trouble city.

Go learn something before you speak of it please.

Rufus · #**132** 02-12-2007, 02:57 AM

You all seem to be paralleling a Graal Online job to a real life paid job. Well first off, these staff are not being paid, other then Ibonic and Lyndzey (until she disappeared). Secondly, on how many other games do you get job applications handed out? I don't think such a thing happens on games like Morld of Marcraft or anywhere else. For starters, Graal is far too personal with players, which then makes every single issue seem to be against them, as a person -- this is one of the main downfalls of Graal. So you're not personally linked with Bell? Good, I don't see why you should need to be really, other then for pulling strings.

The argument of not knowing Bell seems pretty trivial to me, is it because you all would love to be friends with her? She is a lovely person, I don't blame you. I know Bell didn't desire to become PWA, she is not like that, she has never been power hungry, ever. Infact Bell has sat as Assistant GP Administrator for years now, doing every single piece of work, yet hasn't complained? I also know she works hard (sometimes too much, for other people), and has a lot of experience doing some of the things PWA do.

People complained about the lack of global activity, Bell has been hired, problem solved. If the real issue is the fact that you wanted to be hired yourselves, well, just because Bell was hired doesn't mean they won't add anyone else in the near future though, does it?

Lord Sephiroth · #**133** 02-12-2007, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Everyone goes with the flow? There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with something, or having our own opinions. It becomes a problem when people become angry because the other person isn't agreeing with them. Just because a person does not agree with another person doesn't mean the point isn't understood.

No, it becomes a problem when the person chooses to disregard our points, whether understood or not. So far I've stated the main point of this argument about 3-4 times, Devil and james have done so more than that, and yet every post you make you make some abstract connection that because we disagree with how Bell got the job, we want to be globals all of a sudden.

Re-read that paragraph about 8 times, then respond, I don't think it gets much clearer than that but I dunno with you guys it's pretty hard.

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Originally Posted by Rufus

You seem to be paralleling a Graal Online job to a real life paid job.

No, that's what THEY'RE saying, we're just building off their excuses.

Andy0687 · #**134** 02-12-2007, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx

In alot of cases, YES - it does. What part of THAT is so hard to understand?

Prove it then dude. Where are your examples of buisnesses that became successful by hiring only or mostly friends?

xXziroXx · #**135** 02-12-2007, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil

The words of a man who knows nothing of business.

If my friends came to me and said "Hey I want to work with you, you earn alot of money, we want some too" they can go to hell. You don't hire friends in business, you keep them seperate or it's trouble city.

Go learn something before you speak of it please.

Oh yeah, I just forgot that I spent the last 3 years learning how to become a successful businessman. Duh, silly me. What part of "if they are CAPABLE" did you miss me saying?