Discussion of new playerworld rules

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Hiro

So wait, you mean GraalOnline rules of conduct or these forum rules? They are different.

For example, does an advertised forum have to hide it's off-topic section and require that each member join a group approved by a moderator like the lounge is hidden here?

We don't expect third-party forums to follow these forums' rules by or in itself, but proper behavior is expected to be enforced as it would be in-game. This means no harassment, no pornography, etc if the page is being linked from the server. We will only ask servers not to advertise websites that are promoting harassment of users, or pornographic/illegal content.

Originally Posted by Rufus

Might want to reword this.

I see nothing wrong with the wording of the rules. It clearly states GraalOnline's position is that we accept the creation of third-party sites and that falls in line with unixmad's post. I really do not think unixmad would support a website being advertised on Graal's servers if it contains harassment or illegal content.

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

We don't expect third-party forums to follow these forums' rules by or in itself, but proper behavior is expected to be enforced as it would be in-game. This means no harassment, no pornography, etc if the page is being linked from the server. We will only ask servers not to advertise websites that are promoting harassment of users, or pornographic/illegal content.

You might want to change the "as would be expected in-game or on the official GraalOnline forums," part then, as it sounded like the PWA expected 3rd party forums to be moderated in the same fashion as these forums are.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Hiro

You might want to change the "as would be expected in-game or on the official GraalOnline forums," part then, as it sounded like the PWA expected 3rd party forums to be moderated in the same fashion as these forums are.

The word "or" is there because it is meant to be interpreted as "either this or that". Sites have full control over how they moderate themselves obviously, but if they are being advertised in-game via NPC-Server PMs or otherwise, they should be properly moderated in some fashion. Offering the "official GraalOnline forum" rules is only an example of how things could be moderated if people are unsure.

Originally Posted by Rufus

You don't encourage the creation of third-party websites but they are permitted. Well, we can assume that these rules are aimed towards members of the community who are not a part of the anti-websites that are around. I think that those websites being unacceptable are pretty much a given. However, the new rules state that you don't "encourage" the creation of third-party websites. Doesn't every online game (hell, every business) encourage the creation of third party websites? It seems like something that has always been done, and by the sounds of it, something that Unixmad actually encourages.

I can understand what you are trying to say, but I don't believe that you should say that third-party websites are discouraged because they shouldn't be.

I understand what you mean, I'll change the words to make better sense. These rules were aimed to prevent sites that have popped up on servers that promote harassment of users and post pornographic content, not to discourage positive external communities in any way.

Most importantly, unixmad can enforce any rules as he sees fit on Graal. The Playerworld Rules are more guidelines to be followed that shall be enforced by the PWA team itself, not by GraalOnline as a company. I have no authority to speak on behalf of GraalOnline itself.

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

The word "or" is there because it is meant to be interpreted as "either this or that". Sites have full control over how they moderate themselves obviously, but if they are being advertised in-game via NPC-Server PMs or otherwise, they should be properly moderated in some fashion.

I guess I read it a bit to literally.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

I see nothing wrong with the wording of the rules. It clearly states GraalOnline's position is that we accept the creation of third-party sites and that falls in line with unixmad's post. I really do not think unixmad would support a website being advertised on Graal's servers if it contains harassment or illegal content.

You don't encourage the creation of third-party websites but they are permitted. Well, we can assume that these rules are aimed towards members of the community who are not a part of the anti-websites that are around. I think that those websites being unacceptable are pretty much a given. However, the new rules state that you don't "encourage" the creation of third-party websites. Doesn't every online game (hell, every business) encourage the creation of third party websites? It seems like something that has always been done, and by the sounds of it, something that Unixmad actually encourages.

I can understand what you are trying to say, but I don't believe that you should say that third-party websites are discouraged because they shouldn't be.