4 Years of being stagnant

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by jorollychu

they should have just converted the old levels it would be done by now. good call on that one guys.

Very. It was already decently progressing when I quit. Too bad a certain someone had to be ignorant and do it his way.

[gravator]

Yea, whatever happened to all the old levels? Could it be possible for someone to bring back the old levels and make new scripting for them?


I'm certain many people have suggested this, but all the community of classic got in response was "it's not possible or easy to convert things" no one was asked to convert anything, just make all new scripting. and fix possible tile or level errors to the existing levels and maps, much less troublesome than having to do everything from nothing right?

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by gravator

no one was asked to convert anything, just make all new scripting

There is no difference between "converting" and "making all new scripting" in a lot of the situations involved. Some things truthfully were impossible to update, at least in a way that had them function exactly like they did prior to the NPC Server. That's still no reason to just throw away all the work that had been done and redesign everything as it is now, however.

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by jorollychu

they should have just converted the old levels it would be done by now. good call on that one guys.

wow that just right .

[Kill]

Can't really keep on looking back at wrong decisions made. It's about correcting those now, instead, focus on what there currently is. Like this god awful HD in place, it needs to be removed/changed - yet Thor still thinks there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

I showed numerous times to Thor how I had an advantage during CTF Indoor yesterday, yet he took it the wrong way and took it personally. I have nothing against him, it's just if content produced isn't good enough/not playable/fair, how or what or why on earth would I lie and say it's good or shut my mouth up like everyone else who's given up hope?

I could get passed everyone so easily because of my lag, I even had enough time to type away with paragraphs and only get hit once or twice (because I stood there), guess what? My team still won even though me and Oni spent most of the time pointing out the flaws of the HD... We clearly were hitting people and hits weren't going through... I don't know about Oni, but I was being hit yet got no HP taken off.

One of the opposition said "idk why you are complaining... i have hit you tons of times yet nothing happened" and then I replied "that's EXACTLY WHY i'm complaining, because it's no longer a game if i'm virtually cheating -- by taking advantage of this HD it has on laggers such as myself.

Edit:
Here is the February monthly. Thor versus a clear lagger taking advantage of the HD, and winning in the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSRD0HTKCbo

Judge for yourself, but especially at 1:14 you see Thor hit the lagger yet nothing, but he hits Thor and it gets detected?
wtf?

[MysticX2X]

Originally Posted by Rufus

That's the staff attitude, not a "Classic" perspective.

I'm not sure. I just think people think of Supernicks as a Classic place.

The systems Master Storm are developing are pretty much offering what is already on the server in terms of game mechanics. Master Storm's systems are arguably better in structure, but essentially it offers nothing new. I disagree with the notion that if the server is removed it couldn't promote interest, because when Konidias took over Graal2001 after it flopped again he hyped the server as much as he could, and he built up an interest for it through the content that he showed. The few developers we have left in the community like feeling as though they are working on a promising project and at current Classic isn't very promising. If the content is hyped and the hype matches the quality of the server overall, a revival is very possible and the server could be better than ever. If the server continues as it is, don't you think that it is less likely for a good revival in the future?

I'm not even sure if Master Storm's systems on there are meant for Classic. He was making a new HD in regards to Classic, but then Clientside was released so i don't know what he's doing with it now. Konidias hyped up Graal2001 in 2006, where there were more developers. Since more people wanted to see Graal2001 come back, they helped him. But now it's 2009 and you guys can get a very few limited developers, as well as any server. Even comes to the point where many are multistaffing because they have to. Classic is in the same boat, especially when they rarely hire people with no scripting or graphic ability. You're right if they could hype it up, it could come back as something good, but I don't think they'll be able to even do it.

No, it has caused even more problems.

It just came out, nobody will get instantly good at it. It's kind of a bad HD, I'll agree with that though. But not so much on having serverside back.

Polling is rarely helpful in the development of a server which has little development to begin with. When I'm on my Wii and glance over at the "Everyone Votes Channel" I can go on it, vote for my opinion and predict what others are going to say. I don't feel as though I am obligated to vote for something in order to get new content, and that is how most people do feel on Classic. The polls that we get on Classic are extremely manipulative, because they play on what the players feel like they need, but don't actually produce what they do need. MoD fort for was ruined because of the opinion polls and no one has used it since. This new poll is asking players to choose which one they want -- why can't they subsequently release all of them over time? It's because if the content turns out awful, the player voted for it and the players are used as scapegoats when essentially all they ever want is something new.

I know a lot of people were complaining for a new HD right around the time the server went to Europe. Even I was. It was a suggestion from many players to change the HD to clientside because of getting hit from such a far range. It was tested in several spots as far as I know. But i guess you're right on that somewhat that the players would just agree for anything. But from the several CTF's i hosted on Clientside HD (when it was a droppable, and the server was serverside hd), nobody complained o.O. MoD change was terrible, true, but only because of the short time limit. UN relies on polls and look how terrible that server came out to be. You can't sit peacefully in towncenter without getting blown up by 1000 NPCW's

Haha how condescending, you're acting as though I'm unaware of what goes on and I'm unaware of how Master Storm acts. What you said is really not true. I guess for the developers you'll have to ask them personally as I'm not going to go naming names, but you're talking in an ideal sense instead of the actual reality. I don't see how posting on a forum is not better than speaking to Master Storm directly to receive nothing from speaking to him. In fact, posting on this forum has made him get off his ass quite a lot of times, where simple discussions with him have not, well, unless you're threatening him.

Well he's been supposedly reading this thread and gathering down the ideas. Will he act? I don't know I gave him a few ideas which we discussed but in the end wasn't right.


@GTA Idea: If anyone wanted to covert thousands of levels in all this time lol. Seems like a pain.

@Kill: Blobz wins most of the spar tourneys/monthly spar tourneys on Unholy Nation. It's ridiculous and many people complain because he lags 10 times worse than any Classic person you've seen. It's just reality that the lagger will dominate Graal sparring.

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

@Kill: Blobz wins most of the spar tourneys/monthly spar tourneys on Unholy Nation. It's ridiculous and many people complain because he lags 10 times worse than any Classic person you've seen. It's just reality that the lagger will dominate Graal sparring.

i kinda agree on that , even tought i lagged once as bad as blobz i got kicked , but i was vs meryl(if you know her you know what i meant) but both didnt get kick.

[Ares]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

@Kill: Blobz wins most of the spar tourneys/monthly spar tourneys on Unholy Nation. It's ridiculous and many people complain because he lags 10 times worse than any Classic person you've seen. It's just reality that the lagger will dominate Graal sparring.

uhhhhh he's won what, 2 utc's in the past 2 years? his lag doesn't dominate graal sparring at all, just lil scrubs who have no idea what they're doing

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by Ares

uhhhhh he's won what, 2 utc's in the past 2 years? his lag doesn't dominate graal sparring at all, just lil scrubs who have no idea what they're doing

lol@ lil scrubs.
anyway , ares your online like.....some hours a day or not even one hour , why would you talk statistics when you dont know ****. blobz has been tagteam champ for over some weeks now.

[Ares]

Originally Posted by xnervNATx

lol@ lil scrubs.
anyway , ares your online like.....some hours a day or not even one hour , why would you talk statistics when you dont know ****. blobz has been tagteam champ for over some weeks now.

first of all, i hope you realize that blobz and i won the utctt.. second, i was there, watching him win some and losing some.. lag doesn't dominate graal sparring

[xnervNATx]

yes its does. and yes i realised that was your statue. and blobz lag is way too hard.

[Darklux]

From what I heard, peopel have offered two times for help to convert the old levels to new gscript and twice, nothign real was done.
So stop to argue and help instead on wasting time with this thread.

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by Darklux

From what I heard, peopel have offered two times for help to convert the old levels to new gscript and twice, nothign real was done.
So stop to argue and help instead on wasting time with this thread.

and you are?

[Darklux]

Originally Posted by xnervNATx

and you are?

A friend of classic - while you only seem to be able to comment in a destructive way.

[MysticX2X]

Originally Posted by Ares

uhhhhh he's won what, 2 utc's in the past 2 years? his lag doesn't dominate graal sparring at all, just lil scrubs who have no idea what they're doing

I've seen him win the past 2 ttutcs. I've seen him win 3 utc's in the past few months. I've seen him win many freeze tag doubles. I've seen him win many MST's/TTMST's. Fact is, he wins a majority of his spars with no skill at all. Yeah, he's beatable. I beat him a couple times in the past before....

Anyway, we're straying from Classic.