Log mass messages

cbk1994 · #1 08-11-2009, 08:03 AM

Please add a server option to log mass messages. It would be extremely useful on servers like Era where we cannot effectively monitor masses and need to check history constantly (and often cannot since people like to exclude admins from mass messages that might be liable to get them in trouble). Logs could be stored in something like logs/masses/cb/cbk1994.txt.

Scary_Sock · #2 08-11-2009, 08:35 AM

This isen't such a bad idea. I like the idea of keepings logs of each player's mass message kept away. It would help catch people who just USD/Scam/Advertise in their mass message when Staff are busy with something else to read mass messages.

Darlene159 · #3 08-11-2009, 08:42 AM

Good idea.

salesman · #4 08-11-2009, 08:45 AM

Would a message sent to only two or so players be considered a "mass message"? If so, the logs could be pretty deceiving.

DustyPorViva · #5 08-11-2009, 08:46 AM

Could log how many players it was sent to.

cbk1994 · #6 08-11-2009, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by salesman

Would a message sent to only two or so players be considered a "mass message"? If so, the logs could be pretty deceiving.

It'd be hard to determine if something is a real mass message or just a "to friends" one, but I think that it'd be worth it anyway. No one (as far as I know) masses to like three people, anyway.

salesman · #7 08-11-2009, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994

It'd be hard to determine if something is a real mass message or just a "to friends" one, but I think that it'd be worth it anyway. No one (as far as I know) masses to like three people, anyway.

I do, but, like Dusty said, it might be nice to include how many players received the message.

Scary_Sock · #8 08-11-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994

It'd be hard to determine if something is a real mass message or just a "to friends" one, but I think that it'd be worth it anyway. No one (as far as I know) masses to like three people, anyway.

But it is possible for that too happen, and it is possible for a bad outcome from that mass message to the certain group.

Every Mass Message should be logged or every mass message sent to an RC should be logged.

salesman · #9 08-11-2009, 08:52 AM

Don't you think these files would fill up quite a bit? You're probably not going to check them often enough to rename them as they get too big. (I know my RC crashes when I try to open files that are huge)

e: actually probably not, but there's some people who mass wayyyyy too much.

MysticX2X · #10 08-11-2009, 08:54 AM

Wouldn't this be ridiculously huge even for one day?

Also, this seems like a negative for player privacy.

Scary_Sock · #11 08-11-2009, 08:58 AM

Mass messages that should be logged if they include keywords also wouldn't be such a bad idea. It sums it down to just logging it if it includes keywords instead of every single mass message.

If a keyword was used, like "Scam" or "USD", the message would be logged. Otherwise, the mass message would not need to be logged.

cbk1994 · #12 08-11-2009, 08:59 AM

We already log mass messages on Era, in separate files per players, and I'm yet to see one get anywhere near a large file size. The reason I'm requesting hard-coded logging is because it is possible for players to evade the scripted stuff.

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Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Also, this seems like a negative for player privacy.

Player privacy? They're massing it out to the entire server. I'd agree if we were talking about just player PMs, but a public mass is not private.

EDIT: There is no benefit to just logging certain masses from what I can see; file size is not an issue.

Scary_Sock · #13 08-11-2009, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994

There is no benefit to just logging certain masses from what I can see; file size is not an issue.

Although File Size is not an issue, logging pointless mass messages is. It wastes space that can be used. Sure, it isen't an issue NOW, but it still wastes space and it is pointless. Like I said, mass messages with inserted keywords from High Administrators should be logged.

cbk1994 · #14 08-11-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Scary_Sock

Although File Size is not an issue, logging pointless mass messages is. It wastes space that can be used. Sure, it isen't an issue NOW, but it still wastes space and it is pointless. Like I said, mass messages with inserted keywords from High Administrators should be logged.

And what about when you're trying to find a mass message that they avoided by doing something like U$D or U.SD? What about when someone is harassing someone else?

Mark Sir Link · #15 08-11-2009, 09:20 AM

It's not a terrible idea as long as the logs are only accessible by a trusted few (probably not even playerworld staff, PWA or higher).

Only ever access logs if there's an actual complaint. Don't read them at your leisure.

And don't say it's impossible since I'm aware of a MMORPG that supposedly has 10 million + players and logs everything a player says whether in private or public for 6+ months.