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Old 11-22-2013, 08:06 PM
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Flamethrower doesn't spawn flames in the spar complex, I don't think it'd be any different for an outdoor one.
People will find a way. It's very easy to restrict things in a single enclosed level. Yet there are some effects and functionalities available ONLY on the gmap (Cars, Helis, Nukes, etc. etc.) above and beyond the original restrictions, which would have to be applied to multiple levels, probably at odd sizes. I personally just see a huge workload for no positive gain.

I can see it now; trying to drive a car through the arena wall.
Calling in an airstrike from under a tree nearby.
Map launching nukes.
Tossing a P4 you planted and picked up a mile away just to bypass the restrictions.
Helicopters...?
I can go on.

Beyond this, it would require an area the size of, if not larger than, the soccer field. The area around it would have to be no-pk for observers, and would have to be substantial in size (at-least a dozen tiles around the perimeter of the arena) to prevent basic grenade/fire/projectile effect interactions, as well as pk-flag abuse (surrounding it with bombs/melee lame). I picture like a Sparring Colosseum.

Further beyond, the arena itself would have to be placed within a single gmap level, or the scripts might not function properly/passing through gmap levels resets projectiles & causes lag. (Oh that guy is walling me? let me just hop through this level link to reset his projectiles, crap it lagged me for 2 seconds *axe)

An area fitting this description, within a radius from unstick me to the current sparring complex simply doesn't exist.

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Switch the @SparringComplex and the @EasternLockers, this shouldn't take more than #2minutes.
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Old 11-25-2013, 12:57 PM
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Did the spar complex ever move then?
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Old 11-21-2013, 10:46 PM
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Are you guys running PCs from the 90s? What do you mean too much lag?
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Old 11-22-2013, 06:05 PM
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Are you guys running PCs from the 90s? What do you mean too much lag?
Yeah because era is lag free.
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Old 11-22-2013, 07:05 PM
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sparring is easy compared to other types of PKing but its the basis of all PK. if you're not a decent sparrer you suck in everything else that involves PK. ne players should be incentivated to spar because it's the quickest way to earn skill

moving it to unstick would be a great idea
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Old 11-25-2013, 06:24 PM
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Old 11-26-2013, 05:37 PM
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I could, I believe it's best to make new ones though. I just need to figure out how it works (feel free to give your input). I was considering a team registration; I would add myself and another player as a team (possibly more [gangs?]) and from there I can challenge other teams (as long as they're both online and assuming the spar is free). Would be interesting to make bets too. Anyway, that's all I got for an idea as of now.

Edit: Weekly #1 team rewards?

Would you want different challenge modes?
-Both players die = win (easy)
-One player dies = win (hard)
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:13 AM
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I could, I believe it's best to make new ones though. I just need to figure out how it works (feel free to give your input). I was considering a team registration; I would add myself and another player as a team (possibly more [gangs?]) and from there I can challenge other teams (as long as they're both online and assuming the spar is free). Would be interesting to make bets too. Anyway, that's all I got for an idea as of now.

Edit: Weekly #1 team rewards?

Would you want different challenge modes?
-Both players die = win (easy)
-One player dies = win (hard)
The way i see it in my head how it would be done: Probably a bit far fetched and would take a lot of work but i'll tell you anyhow.

-You would say a command (In spar complex)
-It would have the options 1v1 or 2v2.
- If it was 1v1 you would have the option to stake your amount that you would bet.
- You both ready up and it activates the spar somehow (maybe warp you guys in the spar)
- The stake is only an option, you don't have to bet'.
- Same options follow for the 2v2.


Response to the challenge modes. I would say both players have to die= win. Unless you can make the same sort of format that has the two options as well.
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Old 11-27-2013, 03:43 AM
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I was thinking nice GUI's to register teams and challenge other players would be a little more convenient (I don't like chat commands) and get new'er' players to actually want to spar if there's new features. I also came up with a different challenge mode. What do you think about shared HP of 200? And to make things interesting the spar could provide weapons to make things be more skill oriented instead of who has the best gun.
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Old 11-27-2013, 05:08 AM
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And to make things interesting the spar could provide weapons to make things be more skill oriented instead of who has the best gun.
I now want a spar where either the first player selects a gun, or both players agree on a gun (or pick different ones and it randoms one of the two) and then they spar using that weapon.
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Old 11-27-2013, 03:37 PM
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I now want a spar where either the first player selects a gun, or both players agree on a gun (or pick different ones and it randoms one of the two) and then they spar using that weapon.
I like that; it wouldn't be too hard to script a weapon check to compare items.
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Old 11-27-2013, 11:38 PM
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I was thinking nice GUI's to register teams and challenge other players would be a little more convenient (I don't like chat commands) and get new'er' players to actually want to spar if there's new features. I also came up with a different challenge mode. What do you think about shared HP of 200? And to make things interesting the spar could provide weapons to make things be more skill oriented instead of who has the best gun.
The chat command is only to open the GUI, obviously. Lol

All these ideas would work, just add them to the GUI with different options/modes. If you can do it. It would be an awesome update.
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Old 12-01-2013, 05:04 PM
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People play how they choose to play. If not a lot of people are sparring, it doesn't necessarily mean that sparring needs to be insanely incentivised. Perhaps it just means people are off doing other things.
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Old 12-01-2013, 07:03 PM
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People play how they choose to play. If not a lot of people are sparring, it doesn't necessarily mean that sparring needs to be insanely incentivised. Perhaps it just means people are off doing other things.

Yes they do but If you look at unstick you will see majority of the player count is not doing anything. I'll give my opinion on that, they are waiting for something to happen. I use to be one of them. Unfortunately nothing ever does happen but you keep coming back hoping that something does. Vicious circle.

If you look at the spar complex, when was the last time anything was updated? exactly. There is your answer.
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Yes they do but If you look at unstick you will see majority of the player count is not doing anything.
They gave up trying to get better and attain skill when it was made so skill wasn't required, only a lame weapon was needed to put yourself on-par. And they keep pressing the horizon with those ridiculous gang guns.

When there was few guns, and Uzi/Ak reigned supreme, every second that wasn't spent on raids was spent blocking the spar door trying to get your shot to test your skills. Being that the playing field was fairly even, and the only advantage players could attain was their own ability.

Now there are players, or even entire guilds that refuse to raid against certain odds (whenever Mercenary has 3 people online) or simply cannot raid without ec items/armor/various advantages.

I've noticed, and been contacted (shrimps is getting rich af), that PyroTech and Armor Surpluses at GP/AM have been emptied consistently. The only thing required anymore (to at least pretend you're good) is money.
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