All you people starting new PWs etc.

Faheria_LAT3 · #1 07-14-2002, 11:05 AM

mmmmkay: Okay, this is how I feel about all these people starting new playerworlds. You do not have the skills and the staff to start new playerworlds, they are going absolutely nowhere. Stop them, and search for current projects in the works. Or do you not care to do that because you won't become an elite manager with level 4 RC? All these PWs are looking for staff, join them or something. Good workers are few to none anymore, so your dead in the water before you start. Just a good idea for you PW starters.

IAMNOTAFREAK · #2 07-14-2002, 11:21 AM

that's the trouble im having is actually finding good staff...i can do most of the work by myself, and i'd see it through to the end, but it's taking so long...and i'm impatient...
oh well

G_yoshi · #3 07-14-2002, 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by Faheria_LAT3
mmmmkay: Okay, this is how I feel about all these people starting new playerworlds. You do not have the skills and the staff to start new playerworlds, they are going absolutely nowhere. Stop them, and search for current projects in the works. Or do you not care to do that because you won't become an elite manager with level 4 RC? All these PWs are looking for staff, join them or something. Good workers are few to none anymore, so your dead in the water before you start. Just a good idea for you PW starters.

I agree 100% Heh, I'm one of the many current PWs looking for staff

Yes, these people starting new PW projects just want the thrill of being in control...My response to this is, just work for a PW for some time...it may take awhile but eventually you will be given the responsibilities you deserve. Working your way up is far better than you think.

IAMNOTAFREAK · #4 07-14-2002, 11:40 AM

yeah, very true, having your own pw should mean more than just having control...ive worked as an nat for some time now, and ive worked under people and ive had control, but it's more than that, it's doing a good job and helping out...as a pw manager i'd want to do more than just sit around, i'd want to do my job and help the pw get better...but i need others helping me in order to do that efficiently (hint hint, i need staff!)

Shadow Knight · #5 07-14-2002, 11:42 AM

evildred144:

Yes working on a playerworld instead of making one is a better idea.. Besides being a manager isnt all its cracked up to be. People annoy you and bug you to be staff and ask for previews and other things.. Not always the best thing in the world.

IAMNOTAFREAK · #6 07-14-2002, 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by Shadow Knight
evildred144:

Yes working on a playerworld instead of making one is a better idea.. Besides being a manager isnt all its cracked up to be. People annoy you and bug you to be staff and ask for previews and other things.. Not always the best thing in the world.

geez, i wish people would beg me for a staff position, lol

Python523 · #7 07-14-2002, 12:09 PM

I like working a lot more than managing, when you work, you just deal with your specific spot, when you're a manager (I was comanager on providence) you have to deal with all the bullshit people speak about you, all the arguments between staff, supervise all the development, etc etc, it's easier being a normal developer

Xbob42 · #8 07-14-2002, 12:23 PM

I expressed some interest before for working on a playerworld. The only ones I like though are Babylon, Maloria, N-Pulse, and Rudora. The rest are !ugh! and ridiculously big. bleh! Not my type.

I'm gonna be helping out with Exodus only now. I'm just gonna keep the one I was doing as just a personal project to learn things from.

Xbob42 · #9 07-14-2002, 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by Shadow Knight
evildred144:

Yes working on a playerworld instead of making one is a better idea.. Besides being a manager isnt all its cracked up to be. People annoy you and bug you to be staff and ask for previews and other things.. Not always the best thing in the world.

lol. You forgot to include the ones that say "Can I be GP and get level 10 RC?"

Cid_Night · #10 07-14-2002, 01:09 PM

i like the idea that i worked from the bottom up to get my position. I started out just playing DD after about 150 hours i got the job as lat, then after about 6 months i worked my way through the works and ive been admin for about 3 months...and if i stick in my job on DD for long enough ill prolly end up being co-manager or manager some day. It's nice to have that feeling and its a good way to hone your skills before u make a jump into making a playerworld. To make the playerworld u need 2 things. alotta skills, and alotta friends with skills. Thats what you get when you work on current pw's or upcoming pw's in positions of your trade...thats just my experience yours may be different.

Xbob42 · #11 07-14-2002, 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by Cid_Night
i like the idea that i worked from the bottom up to get my position. I started out just playing DD after about 150 hours i got the job as lat, then after about 6 months i worked my way through the works and ive been admin for about 3 months...and if i stick in my job on DD for long enough ill prolly end up being co-manager or manager some day. It's nice to have that feeling and its a good way to hone your skills before u make a jump into making a playerworld. To make the playerworld u need 2 things. alotta skills, and alotta friends with skills. Thats what you get when you work on current pw's or upcoming pw's in positions of your trade...thats just my experience yours may be different.

You said the best words and the number one key words "a lot of friends"
When you have a lot of friends and are well liked you have no problem finding willing staff.

warp2ukew · #12 07-14-2002, 07:38 PM

IN MY DAY IN 1932 THEY DIDNT HAVE THESE DERN HIGH SPOTS ALL OVER. WE HAD TO WALK 50 MILES TO PLAY A COMPUTER AND TO GET A HIGH SPOT WE HAD TO PLAY GRAAL OR A YEAR STRAIGHT WITHOU BEING DCED

*****

anyway

i like what you said cid

Garel · #13 07-14-2002, 09:11 PM

Your sooooo right mmmmkay

Spectre1337 · #14 07-14-2002, 09:21 PM

All you who are making a PW, could work on my PW with me.. That would make it like 5x easier. Plus it would be easier to manage the PW when it came up if it had like 3 or 4 managers.

Just an idea..

WHIPENIE4 · #15 07-14-2002, 10:05 PM

I agree with mmmmkay.

Its better to help a current pw get better then causeing more shitty ones to go up, and being a manager isn't that fun. I was co-manager for Mithica and its a lot of work you have to supervise over all the positions when the other isn't on to help you, you have to pretty much baby-sit the staff and get work done at the same time. I can only image what an Manager must go through

Manager is a confuseing job, you think of the story line you have to be organized something doesn't go well its you're fault, you take full responsiblility for you're staff and there actions they do something wrong it reflects you and you're pw too. Bah, I rather be a player or easy job like gat.

Falcor · #16 07-15-2002, 02:58 AM

Nice speach.

Agree 100%

To Cid, the rock ***** is getting plain annoying, remove it or I will find your house and beat up your pets and hang then in your closet on your coat hangers.... Well not really.

Kuza · #17 07-15-2002, 08:28 AM

Graal is always evolving. We don't know what talent is around the corner, we just have to wait for it and find out.

Faheria_LAT3 · #18 07-15-2002, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by Kuza
Graal is always evolving. We don't know what talent is around the corner, we just have to wait for it and find out.

mmmmkay: Have fun waiting for that talent, something tells me that it won't come though.

Python523 · #19 07-15-2002, 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by Faheria_LAT3

mmmmkay: Have fun waiting for that talent, something tells me that it won't come though.

hehe, its a conspiracy (sp?)
the level makers cant find NATs
the NATs cant find GATs
and the GATs cant find LATs or NATs

Faheria_LAT3 · #20 07-15-2002, 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by Python523

hehe, its a conspiracy (sp?)
the level makers cant find NATs
the NATs cant find GATs
and the GATs cant find LATs or NATs

mmmmkay: Faheria people can find all those, as well as a music person. <3

Graal518 · #21 07-15-2002, 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by WHIPENIE4
I agree with mmmmkay.

Its better to help a current pw get better then causeing more shitty ones to go up, and being a manager isn't that fun. I was co-manager for Mithica and its a lot of work you have to supervise over all the positions when the other isn't on to help you, you have to pretty much baby-sit the staff and get work done at the same time. I can only image what an Manager must go through

Manager is a confuseing job, you think of the story line you have to be organized something doesn't go well its you're fault, you take full responsiblility for you're staff and there actions they do something wrong it reflects you and you're pw too. Bah, I rather be a player or easy job like gat.

Wtf, Baby-sitting the staff? The staff were completely fine you biznitch. ;\
-Wind

Deek2 · #22 07-15-2002, 12:51 PM

i'd say FAQ is the easiest position, not GFX.
I'd also have to agree that like 99.9% of the servers that are "coming out" will never make it onto the serverlist.

Kuza · #23 07-15-2002, 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by Deek2
i'd say FAQ is the easiest position, not GFX.
I'd also have to agree that like 99.9% of the servers that are "coming out" will never make it onto the serverlist.

FAQ isn't an easy position to hold. You have to have a lot of patience and know a bit about the server if you plan on answer any questions. ^_~

AlexH · #24 07-15-2002, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by Kuza

FAQ isn't an easy position to hold. You have to have a lot of patience and know a bit about the server if you plan on answer any questions. ^_~

I think what he meant was that it requires the least skill.
All you need to be able to be an FAQ is solid knowledge of the server.

Faheria_LAT3 · #25 07-15-2002, 01:24 PM

mmmmkay: To me FAQ is a job for people who cannot develop.

Kuza · #26 07-15-2002, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by Faheria_LAT3
mmmmkay: To me FAQ is a job for people who cannot develop.

I can do both. Graal2001 just doesn't want me as a Developer, FAQ is fun though, you get a sense of respect from the players that you can't find anywhere else.

I guess it all depends on how lightly or serious you take your job.

Torankusu · #27 07-15-2002, 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by Faheria_LAT3
mmmmkay: To me FAQ is a job for people who cannot develop.

DAMNIT.

Faheria_LAT3 · #28 07-15-2002, 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
DAMNIT.

mmmmkay: Well a choice between making levels or FAQ I choose levels. Soon you may adapt making levels over FAQ, I do not know.

Xbob42 · #29 07-15-2002, 02:42 PM

I was FAQ on N-Pulse from Nov. 2001- Jan2002 when it still got over 100 players on. FAQ I don't think was easy at that time, but now when all you get is about 20-50 players it is the easiest position to deal with especially when there's very little new people to the game.
So I would have to say that FAQ's are almost useless now. Maybe having 2 is okay.

Frolic_RC2 · #30 07-16-2002, 12:22 AM

Bleh...well no way I'm listening to this =P. Oh I forgot, my PW isn't near new, and I can't stand working for people because I am able to do everything in the developement area. Oh well.

I guess this doesn't apply to me, so I agree.

Glory · #31 07-16-2002, 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by Frolic_RC2
Bleh...well no way I'm listening to this =P. Oh I forgot, my PW isn't near new, and I can't stand working for people because I am able to do everything in the developement area. Oh well.

I guess this doesn't apply to me, so I agree.

Corupt: ditto

RavenTelvecho · #32 07-16-2002, 12:33 AM

Vi]{tor:

This thread applies to how i felt, beign owner of Xone, it was a total hell, for one thing the staff around me got to be a bunch of a holes, and of course the other owner who threatened to delete the server ::cough:: anyways, if I was to be anything I wouldn't wanna be an owner, all you do is answer peoples pms complaining about other staff, hackers, giving them npcs or money and etc. You start to get stressed out and the game doesnt feel like a game no more, I was like hell, I should be enjoying myself right? And I wasent, so I quit and Xone died

The End

IAMNOTAFREAK · #33 07-16-2002, 07:20 AM

if i could do gfx (and had more time) i'd be set

Graal2001_LAT · #34 10-07-2002, 10:38 AM

This is very wise read and do what I say!

thrashsoul · #35 10-08-2002, 03:59 AM

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Originally posted by Graal2001_LAT
This is very wise read and do what I say!

Lol ,I did do what you said.So i joined faheria.Five Days Later
I lost my rc and am fired with out no explanation?

haunter · #36 10-08-2002, 06:19 AM

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Originally posted by thrashsoul

Lol ,I did do what you said.So i joined faheria.Five Days Later
I lost my rc and am fired with out no explanation?

You are bad <-- explination.

R0bin · #37 10-08-2002, 06:40 AM

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Originally posted by thrashsoul

Lol ,I did do what you said.So i joined faheria.Five Days Later
I lost my rc and am fired with out no explanation?

Because your name begins and ends with different letters?

Graal2001_LAT · #38 10-08-2002, 08:52 AM

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Originally posted by thrashsoul

Lol ,I did do what you said.So i joined faheria.Five Days Later
I lost my rc and am fired with out no explanation?

Lets just say MD hired you, I finally saw some of your work, threw up, then fired you.

haunter · #39 10-09-2002, 04:24 AM

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Originally posted by Graal2001_LAT

threw up,

I wondered why the level looked a bit nicer...

AlexH · #40 10-09-2002, 04:26 AM

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Originally posted by Graal2001_LAT

Lets just say MD hired you, I finally saw some of your work, threw up, then fired you.

Straight and to the point.
That's the way it should be.