What happened to Event Island Raffle?

[MasterNuke]

Fix it already.

[Gothika]

I'd rather use the Events Island one instead of Hataru. But I don't know if it's fixed.

[Ravenblade1979]

The events island raffle house turned into a school for some reason but the one in Hotaru is just fine.

[MasterNuke]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

The events island raffle house turned into a school for some reason but the one in Hotaru is just fine.

Well... this is a computer game. There is no reason why they can't make it function as both. Besides... the Hotaru raffle sucks chunks. It'd be more convenient for both the Event Masters and the players if raffle functionality was put back into the Event Island Raffle Room.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by MasterNuke

Fix it already.

Answer:

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

The events island raffle house turned into a school for some reason but the one in Hotaru is just fine.

I don't see why we need 2 raffles rooms. The school is fine for several RP events and will not turn back into a raffle room.

[MasterNuke]

Originally Posted by Sam

Answer:


I don't see why we need 2 raffles rooms. The school is fine for several RP events and will not turn back into a raffle room.

Originally Posted by MasterNuke

Besides... the Hotaru raffle sucks chunks.

1. It's kinda dark.
2. People crowd the box.
3. Players can attack other players using certain methods.
4. Reasons 2 and 3 are exponentially worse if the player base hates you.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by MasterNuke

1. It's kinda dark.
2. People crowd the box.
3. Players can attack other players using certain methods.
4. Reasons 2 and 3 are exponentially worse if the player base hates you.

Those problems can be solved by small improvements in the level.

[MasterNuke]

Originally Posted by Sam

Those problems can be solved by small improvements in the level.

Except, if I recall correctly, the room was never really meant to be used solely as a raffle room.

Could you explain the logic of turning the heavily used Event Island raffle room into a school that is very rarely used?

[Damix2]

Funny that for as long as I can remember Sam has wanted us to stop having many raffles yet when I was an EM, thats all people wanted to do.

Why take away what they want?

[DonnyCypher]

god sam is sucha fkin noob, hes such a lazy POS, who do i need to talk to get sam and bjorn fired? seriously?

[Gothika]

Originally Posted by DonnyCypher

god sam is sucha fkin noob, hes such a lazy POS, who do i need to talk to get sam and bjorn fired? seriously?

Sorry dude, you've crossed the line there. Sam is awesome.

[Ravenblade1979]

Err Donny what did sam do that was that bad? YOu mean about events island raffle. Well I agree with him 100%...we have 1...thats all we need.

[MasterNuke]

Originally Posted by Sam

Ed, you or anybody else can show us a modified hotaru ball and raffle room. I am sure Björn and/or Stefan are open for a renewing.

You simply change the event island raffle room to the way it was before and then make everything in the room movable like the furniture in the pub. It's something I cannot do myself because I don't have the right resources to do.

Originally Posted by DonnyCypher

god sam is sucha fkin noob, hes such a lazy POS, who do i need to talk to get sam and bjorn fired? seriously?

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Err Donny what did sam do that was that bad? YOu mean about events island raffle. Well I agree with him 100%...we have 1...thats all we need.

I'm not going to point at Sam or Bjorn... but not enough was done these past years to count as "work" on this server. A few changes here and there, but in reality, the amount of things that have been broken have canceled out any progress made.

It's not about necessity... it's about quality. The Event Island Raffle house was much preferred to host raffles in compared to the Hotaru Ballroom. But, for some bizarre reason, someone found it necessary to degrade the quality of raffles to make room for a school. The idea seems sound until you factor in the fact that Graal IS A ****ING GAME. A pointless, rarely used school could of been made somewhere else without even having to touch a perfectly good raffle room. They had the ENTIRE LANDMASS OF EVENT ISLAND to work with. This isn't some real life government trying to save money on construction by converting buildings. THIS IS GRAAL. Even if Event Island were crowded with buildings, it could just be stuck in some toilet like that huge ass labyrinth in Zol's Pub.

If you don't feel like reading all that, I'll put it in one sentence.
The quality of service that the server provided was lowered for no real reason other than selfish thoughts of optimism.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by MasterNuke

It's something I cannot do myself because I don't have the right resources to do.

Same here.
And as I said, I prefer a modification of the hotaru room and leave the other one as it is.

[MasterNuke]

Originally Posted by Sam

Same here.
And as I said, I prefer a modification of the hotaru room and leave the other one as it is.

It's not about what you prefer. It's about what the players and Event Masters using the rooms prefer. If I were still an Events Master, I'd be pissed off at the general attitude shown in this thread.

I prefer an Events Island Raffle room over Hotaru Ballroom raffle for a few reasons:
-Hotaru Ballroom wasn't designed specifically to be a raffle room.
-Event Island Raffle was made for the sole purpose of raffles, and thus had adequate controls to keep the room in order for raffles.
-Bringing back Event Island Raffle would be the easiest choice to implement assuming backups were made of the previous level.
-You have this huge amount of land on Event Island to use anyway. You could just make another school that nobody uses.

There are more, but I have to leave for class.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by MasterNuke

It's not about what you prefer. It's about what the players and Event Masters using the rooms prefer. If I were still an Events Master, I'd be pissed off at the general attitude shown in this thread.

I prefer an Events Island Raffle room over Hotaru Ballroom raffle for a few reasons:
-Hotaru Ballroom wasn't designed specifically to be a raffle room.
-Event Island Raffle was made for the sole purpose of raffles, and thus had adequate controls to keep the room in order for raffles.
-Bringing back Event Island Raffle would be the easiest choice to implement assuming backups were made of the previous level.
-You have this huge amount of land on Event Island to use anyway. You could just make another school that nobody uses.

There are more, but I have to leave for class.

Fact is that I'm still the Events Admin so it's my decision. So far I can see the posts EM's did here they agree with me.
I don't know what Hotaru Ballroom was designed for and it doesn't matters because things changes, that's life.
You are not EM anymore so you don't need to handle problems by trouble makers crowding the counter.

[Ravenblade1979]

hmm well Ed why not just suggest a new event that can go in? I mean beauty isn't being used anymore...we could have two new brand spanking new events to host.

[Waltz5]

I have to agree with Ed.

Raven's last raffle had many problems, namely with people not listening to him saying, "Don't crowd the box." or "Below this line." I think that is reason enough to be able to use the Events Island Raffle. Most hosts have this problem and are forced to stall until they listen or have to pillor people. And what about our EM's who don't have the ability to pillor? They are not in control of their own event.

Look on the map, I believe it is marked "Raffle" yet can't serve it's function. There was no reason to tear it down. If you wanted something else, just make it on the island. It's not hard to find a spot. In short, there was no reason for this switch to be made other than laziness.

[Ravenblade1979]

LOL oh well either way we need a level kick command if sam is keeping the hotaru raffle.

[Waltz5]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

LOL oh well either way we need a level kick command if sam is keeping the hotaru raffle.

That and a :chair enter/tables so people don't crowd the yellow box. Should be easy enough additions.

[Ravenblade1979]

Ed lets end this discussion..the old raffle house is back..no more school.