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Old 12-28-2004, 07:51 AM
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Does anyone remember Shadow Dragons web site?

Graal Version Release dates.

??/98 1st Zelda Online
??/??/98 2nd Zelda Online
??/??/98 ZO Level Editor
09/08/98 The 1st Graal
09/16/98 The 2nd Graal
09/30/98 The 3rd Graal
10/02/98 Alpha of 4th Graal
10/05/98 The 4th Graal
10/12/98 Alpha of 5th Graal
10/19/98 The 5th Graal
11/09/98 The 6th Graal
12/04/98 The 7th Graal
12/08/98 The 8th Graal
12/14/98 Alpha of 9th Graal
12/18/98 The 9th Graal
12/22/98 The 10th Graal
12/23/98 The 11th Graal
01/05/98 The 12th Graal
01/12/99 The 13th Graal
01/15/99 The 14th Graal
01/29/99 The 15th Graal
02/16/99 The 16th Graal
03/16/99 Graal Gold
04/11/99 Version 1.1
04/11/99 Unlimted Server 1.1
04/21/99 Beta of Graal 1.2
06/20/99 Version 1.2.1
08/07/99 Version 1.2.5
11/28/99 Version 1.2.7
11/24/99 Beta of Version 1.2.8
11/30/99 Beta of Version 1.3
01/03/00 Version 1.3.1
01/11/00 Version 1.3.2
02/21/00 Version 1.3.3
03/22/00 Version 1.3.4
04/14/00 Version 1.3.5

Post somthing that you remember from Graal 1998 - 2002

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Old 12-28-2004, 07:53 AM
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Something I don't remember from most of that time is p2p.... I like not remembering that, if only it were gone!

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Old 12-28-2004, 07:53 AM
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I remember when graal was free.. and I played on the old Sanstrata
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Old 12-28-2004, 07:54 AM
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Yea when Graal was free it was alot more fun and alot more people (most were kids thou)
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Yea when Graal was free it was alot more fun and alot more people (most were kids thou)
Yea most where.. But it was alot of fun. I can remmeber alot of friends that i had. And most had to leave. Lost contact with them.
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Old 12-28-2004, 08:28 AM
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I remember before there was such thing as a .gani, and Graal: The Adventure was the main server and had more than 300 players on it.
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Old 12-28-2004, 08:42 AM
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Old 12-28-2004, 06:40 PM
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I remember before there was such thing as a .gani, and Graal: The Adventure was the main server and had more than 300 players on it.

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Old 12-28-2004, 08:48 AM
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Meh, i remember when you didnt have to pay for graal, and when there was no P2P. The talk that P2P was goijng to come out started months before it came out. Everyone said they would quit, and most of the pro's did quit. Now, most sparrers open a lot of programs to help them lag, or just hack. Bleh.
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Old 12-28-2004, 11:26 AM
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I remember when you didn't have to pay for graal and when accounts didn't exist. To save your settings you had to press F3 and save it as a file. And to open it you press F2 and it was easy to duplicate all items for other players and get all the hearts.

And when the main server was down everyone was either packed into the onlinestartlocal or in the other server known as the real world.

Then you had Pachuka who came and had his death sword and was a complete jerk to most people he didn't know. Then he threatened graal that he would sue them if they continued to use his levels after he was gone from graal, so I believe they got rid of most of them (big rainbow castle).

Then a couple years later I returned to a different kind of Graal Classic (formely known as Main Server) and played that for a while and joined NBK. Then a couple months later newmain was released and we were promised that classic would stay free... but now it's not. Then about a year later I became the Global Account Administrator for 6-7 months(previously just account manager for 4-5 months) then quit thinking I wouldn't ever come back. 3 years later here I am again
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Old 12-28-2004, 11:43 AM
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Graal servers are hosted on a dedicated backbone managed by Cyberjoueurs (BGP...), we have a total of 3 Gigabit line completly dedicated to graal servers, so lag probably comes from your ISP.

Distributing old version of graal is completly illegal. We have never allowed anyone to distribute graalonline client because we don't want anyone to put Virus on the client neither modify it.

You can still archive version on your local HD but you are not allowed to distribute them.



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Meh, i remember when you didnt have to pay for graal, and when there was no P2P. The talk that P2P was goijng to come out started months before it came out. Everyone said they would quit, and most of the pro's did quit. Now, most sparrers open a lot of programs to help them lag, or just hack. Bleh.
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Old 12-28-2004, 01:15 PM
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Graal servers are hosted on a dedicated backbone managed by Cyberjoueurs (BGP...), we have a total of 3 Gigabit line completly dedicated to graal servers, so lag probably comes from your ISP.

Distributing old version of graal is completly illegal. We have never allowed anyone to distribute graalonline client because we don't want anyone to put Virus on the client neither modify it.

You can still archive version on your local HD but you are not allowed to distribute them.
Well somehow they will get around to other people, there is no way to stop it.
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Old 12-28-2004, 04:29 PM
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You can still archive version on your local HD but you are not allowed to distribute them.
If i want to archive a copy of the old client, which is legal... i would have to have someone send me a copy... which is illegal?
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Old 12-28-2004, 09:18 PM
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Graal servers are hosted on a dedicated backbone managed by Cyberjoueurs (BGP...), we have a total of 3 Gigabit line completly dedicated to graal servers, so lag probably comes from your ISP.

Distributing old version of graal is completly illegal. We have never allowed anyone to distribute graalonline client because we don't want anyone to put Virus on the client neither modify it.

You can still archive version on your local HD but you are not allowed to distribute them.

Not once in my post did i mention that any of the lag comes from the servers that graal is ran on. I mentioned that people open programs, such as Kazaa and other things to help them lag, while sparring or pking. There are also hacks, where you can turn on/off god mode whenever you want, which most people use also, which is also why i dont spar anymore. Well, unless its with a friend. Most lag does come from the users ISP, but...

more programs opened = more lag = play graal = get hit once every 20 swings.

Hope you understand what i meant now.
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Old 12-28-2004, 04:40 PM
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I have alot of memories, I remember the firstguild I joined (LOG) and I didnt know that you had to set your nick as u had set it in the guild CP so I was like "WHY DOESNT IT WORK!?!?!?!?!??!?"

I remember when I wanted to join NBK, NBK had been offical for like one month and everyone was telling me it was totally awesome.. I was a noob these days probably named "NINJA MASTER" or something like that so im asking Dayson to join right? He tells me too go to zols named as "SHAYDE IS A ****" (or something like that).. Then I got totally dissed because they didnt want any one who insulted Shayde, they were laughting man!!!!
(Im in NBK now)

Lets stop talking about Classic know (but I do miss when zols could have 20 people just chilling out)
Lets talk about Babylon and the first Owner named Lord Helmut, I had never been staff on graal and babylon was at the time when there was always 10 people max. I got all happy when I got a pub job on Babylon and became Lord Helmuts son ; P.

I remember when liquidice was manager on UN.
I remember:
RIP DREX SADAR!!!!!
Lord Helmut
Tom Chill
Leon Chill
Magnus Chill
Biggie Chill
ArchAngel Chill
NoMaD Chill
Fei Chill
Kosma
Shayde
Dayson
Digger
Rami
Reiko
Jasper
Macabre (guild)
godlike
Lord Chimp
Zols
Zorro
Xavier Chill
Knuckles
geovannie
Tifa
Blake
LaZyBoY
Fiftie
Spark911 (When I was GP on hes server he was making, remember spark )?
Graal 2001
trooper (hacker who always came in to classic chillin with us on AC, no one ever actually cared about him hacking.. lol
Hell Raven
Enigma
Mithica
Ferrari
Auoriria Online or whatever it was named.
Andor
XPY
Zew
(Wasn't it another german server X_X?)
Holy (THE REAL HOLY NO ONE ELSE)
Golden Slayer
Snapek
Minoc
Sting Darkmane (NEWB on 56K)!!!
sk8terboy (the leader of WS or was).
Angel as GM on Frolic.
Mr. Glub Glub
Rage Chill
Raven Chill
Lee
Maloria (when CyberX was manager and tyrial Co-Manager).
Dante
paexea
Lyndzey
Masah
bannanas chill
Balrog Chill
Bloodvayne
Ricardo Sadar
Angel Clan
Dozers
SL first day it got out.
G_Yoshi
Smoke
Tyrial
Master Storm
Denim
Exodus
Jay (Mung)
Alf (Mung)
Pachuka
JellyFish (sadly yes =/)
Lord Scaarub
Matin Cyrilin
Bef
Zub Messiah
Loxeus family
Awakened
BTK (on classic)
Turks
NBK
LOG
Ventrue Vampires
Final Fantasy
Jedi Knights
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Old 12-28-2004, 04:59 PM
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I remember when I wanted to join NBK, NBK had been offical for like one month
That's impossible, unless you're talking about the recreation of the guild back in 2001 (or 2002).
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Old 12-28-2004, 05:00 PM
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I have alot of memories, I remember the firstguild I joined (LOG) and I didnt know that you had to set your nick as u had set it in the guild CP so I was like "WHY DOESNT IT WORK!?!?!?!?!??!?"

I remember when I wanted to join NBK, NBK had been offical for like one month and everyone was telling me it was totally awesome.. I was a noob these days probably named "NINJA MASTER" or something like that so im asking Dayson to join right? He tells me too go to zols named as "SHAYDE IS A ****" (or something like that).. Then I got totally dissed because they didnt want any one who insulted Shayde, they were laughting man!!!!
(Im in NBK now)

Lets stop talking about Classic know (but I do miss when zols could have 20 people just chilling out)
Lets talk about Babylon and the first Owner named Lord Helmut, I had never been staff on graal and babylon was at the time when there was always 10 people max. I got all happy when I got a pub job on Babylon and became Lord Helmuts son ; P.

I remember when liquidice was manager on UN.
I remember:
RIP DREX SADAR!!!!!
Lord Helmut
Tom Chill
Leon Chill
Magnus Chill
Biggie Chill
ArchAngel Chill
NoMaD Chill
Fei Chill
Kosma
Shayde
Dayson
Digger
Rami
Reiko
Jasper
Macabre (guild)
godlike
Lord Chimp
Zols
Zorro
Xavier Chill
Knuckles
geovannie
Tifa
Blake
LaZyBoY
Fiftie
Spark911 (When I was GP on hes server he was making, remember spark )?
Graal 2001
trooper (hacker who always came in to classic chillin with us on AC, no one ever actually cared about him hacking.. lol
Hell Raven
Enigma
Mithica
Ferrari
Auoriria Online or whatever it was named.
Andor
XPY
Zew
(Wasn't it another german server X_X?)
Holy (THE REAL HOLY NO ONE ELSE)
Golden Slayer
Snapek
Minoc
Sting Darkmane (NEWB on 56K)!!!
sk8terboy (the leader of WS or was).
Angel as GM on Frolic.
Mr. Glub Glub
Rage Chill
Raven Chill
Lee
Maloria (when CyberX was manager and tyrial Co-Manager).
Dante
paexea
Lyndzey
Masah
bannanas chill
Balrog Chill
Bloodvayne
Ricardo Sadar
Angel Clan
Dozers
SL first day it got out.
G_Yoshi
Smoke
Tyrial
Master Storm
Denim
Exodus
Jay (Mung)
Alf (Mung)
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NBKs original leader was Darkman, what year did you try to join?
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Old 12-28-2004, 05:06 PM
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NBKs original leader was Darkman, what year did you try to join?
I dont remember that, it was a long time ago...
when I was a newb and wanted to join my nick went as Ninja master o.o :P


my account was Skappa and nickname £ord EK when I joined NBK for the first time...
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Old 12-28-2004, 06:31 PM
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I lead Graal Royal Army back when I played on Classic. I was the third leader after Tseng (Not the Tseng we know today, it was a different Tseng)

That's about all I did a long time ago.

Then on 2k1 I lead Warhare Family

That's about all the old stuff I was apart of
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I lead Graal Royal Army back when I played on Classic.
Wasn't Graal Royal Army kinda "The Royals" wannabe?
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Wasn't Graal Royal Army kinda "The Royals" wannabe?
I dont remember a guild called 'The Royals'. But Graal Royal Army was made by some newbie who called himself the King of Graal (surprise surprise) only this guy made an actual guild to enforce his claim XD.

He later quit and it was passed down until it reached me.
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NBKs original leader was Darkman, what year did you try to join?
The original was Draxi, although I recall Darkman being the 'main' leader back in 2000.
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Auoriria Online or whatever it was named.
Heh I still have Auroria Online's levels on a cd somewhere! (wow my fingers remembered how to spell it)


Ah I just remembered someone, this girl who was always at that outside bar with the trees. She was always behind the counter and would pk me if I tried to go behind it =(, then others would PK me when I went infront of it....she has a blue haired head...I never remembered her name.

She was like online 24/7 because no matter when I went, she was there waiting to kill me =(
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Old 12-30-2004, 02:00 AM
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Heh I still have Auroria Online's levels on a cd somewhere! (wow my fingers remembered how to spell it)


Ah I just remembered someone, this girl who was always at that outside bar with the trees. She was always behind the counter and would pk me if I tried to go behind it =(, then others would PK me when I went infront of it....she has a blue haired head...I never remembered her name.

She was like online 24/7 because no matter when I went, she was there waiting to kill me =(
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OH YEAH. and OBD Order of the Black Hand merged with NBK yeah
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Old 12-30-2004, 05:02 AM
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Heh I still have Auroria Online's levels on a cd somewhere! (wow my fingers remembered how to spell it)
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Nils and his silly lies claiming to be Stefans cousin.
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Old 12-30-2004, 05:30 AM
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Vizamar will talk, I don't have to have proof my words are gold. I wont say jail him on a server hes addicted to for doing nothing because that'd be corrupt, but he has spoken but yeah, i always leave out people of the past when people mention it, I know a few more, but cant think, sorry to those.

Juno... and Golden Girl, thats 2, but yeah. oh, Salia......
GPs................
I was Police on 2001, i was also Police on Maloria, a few jobs on Maloria.
GP on Classic when it WAS Popular, and now its starting to die which i hate to see because its a server i've loved for so long, it was my main server since I started playing, its just fading away now, When I was GC it almost never except US Night times went below 45 people. Now on the second saturday i go on to see how it looks, theres only 20 to 30 people. sad for people who have been playing even half as long as I did.
June 1998 to what, August 2004? I really left in like March, when i got a job, and when you get a job, you're life gets ALOT better, you meet new people, you hang out with them, hell now i'm barely ever home, I'm home to play a good 20 minutes or 10 minutes of graal to see whos on.

but yeah. I am feeling sick so yeah.
I hope when Classic gets that NPC Server, it gets back up there right below UN, maybe if they were on top for a day all the newbies would come to classic like UN
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Old 12-30-2004, 05:49 AM
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Nils and his silly lies claiming to be Stefans cousin.
I got jailed on auroria when he abused hes boots by killing me, I called him a ****er and BOOM
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DONT SAY THAT XMANN! Baddies will never die! haha
But seriously, what guild on classic isnt dead? Its almost impossible to have a guild with so few players..
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Old 12-28-2004, 05:38 PM
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Another old server I remember was Termina, Rick was owner of that and he was one of this 1st people to get the npcserver. I remember how the doors lag.
*Also Mithica was a awesome server! GP Chief was fan as i recall*
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Old 12-28-2004, 06:15 PM
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I remember losing my suicide dagger on main when the servers got fried and they reset everyone. I remember when they implemented the hera system >=(!
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Old 12-28-2004, 06:59 PM
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I remember losing my suicide dagger on main when the servers got fried and they reset everyone. I remember when they implemented the hera system >=(!
That was annoying. I remember that when I went out of the new starters house thinkl there was a huge PKing fest going on.
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Old 12-28-2004, 06:42 PM
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Man that was the days when 300 players were online classic =/
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Old 12-28-2004, 06:45 PM
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Old 12-28-2004, 08:39 PM
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I havn't looked at the versions I downloaded. It was when we had ghost mode remember? You had to wait for a long time to play lol.. But at the same time its all the complaints about ghost mode that made it so we had too get gold =/
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I havn't looked at the versions I downloaded. It was when we had ghost mode remember? You had to wait for a long time to play lol.. But at the same time its all the complaints about ghost mode that made it so we had too get gold =/
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Old 12-28-2004, 08:55 PM
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Old 12-28-2004, 07:06 PM
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Yeah, it was extremely laggy. I remember when 30-40 players were considered a lot for graal.
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Old 12-28-2004, 07:28 PM
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I remember almost everything you people said =)
Do you people remember the old Graal 3000?
I remember to get the ATM card, we had to say "ǿ" or another strange char.
I remember we could push some statues near a strange castle.
I think the servers I most liked was g3k and Dino Valley
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Old 12-28-2004, 08:04 PM
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I remember almost everything you people said =)
Do you people remember the old Graal 3000?
I remember to get the ATM card, we had to say "ǿ" or another strange char.
I remember we could push some statues near a strange castle.
I think the servers I most liked was g3k and Dino Valley
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That server had so many trainer users. You couldn't go through one level without some idiot killing you with a level 29382094832 sword or blasting you to death.
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Old 12-28-2004, 07:37 PM
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The last time that Classic had a steady player count of around 300 players was probably right before Graal2001 came out. There were a LOT of players on N-Pulse, too, around 150 at a time. So around 500 players on those two servers alone, it was pretty cool, when the server list was put into Graal I played N-Pulse for a while, but switched back to main. Valikorlia had a couple of players, around 75 at a time. You don't see that many players on Graal these days because you have to pay to get the most out of the game.

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