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RiceNetworkingSource 12-28-2004 07:51 AM

Graal History
 
Does anyone remember Shadow Dragons web site?

Graal Version Release dates.

??/98 1st Zelda Online
??/??/98 2nd Zelda Online
??/??/98 ZO Level Editor
09/08/98 The 1st Graal
09/16/98 The 2nd Graal
09/30/98 The 3rd Graal
10/02/98 Alpha of 4th Graal
10/05/98 The 4th Graal
10/12/98 Alpha of 5th Graal
10/19/98 The 5th Graal
11/09/98 The 6th Graal
12/04/98 The 7th Graal
12/08/98 The 8th Graal
12/14/98 Alpha of 9th Graal
12/18/98 The 9th Graal
12/22/98 The 10th Graal
12/23/98 The 11th Graal
01/05/98 The 12th Graal
01/12/99 The 13th Graal
01/15/99 The 14th Graal
01/29/99 The 15th Graal
02/16/99 The 16th Graal
03/16/99 Graal Gold
04/11/99 Version 1.1
04/11/99 Unlimted Server 1.1
04/21/99 Beta of Graal 1.2
06/20/99 Version 1.2.1
08/07/99 Version 1.2.5
11/28/99 Version 1.2.7
11/24/99 Beta of Version 1.2.8
11/30/99 Beta of Version 1.3
01/03/00 Version 1.3.1
01/11/00 Version 1.3.2
02/21/00 Version 1.3.3
03/22/00 Version 1.3.4
04/14/00 Version 1.3.5

Post somthing that you remember from Graal 1998 - 2002

jacob_bald6225 12-28-2004 07:53 AM

Something I don't remember from most of that time is p2p.... I like not remembering that, if only it were gone!

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Leasure-13 12-28-2004 07:53 AM

I remember when graal was free.. and I played on the old Sanstrata

RiceNetworkingSource 12-28-2004 07:54 AM

Yea when Graal was free it was alot more fun and alot more people (most were kids thou)

Leasure-13 12-28-2004 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiceNetworkingSource
Yea when Graal was free it was alot more fun and alot more people (most were kids thou)

Yea most where.. But it was alot of fun. I can remmeber alot of friends that i had. And most had to leave. Lost contact with them.

T3CK 12-28-2004 08:28 AM

I remember before there was such thing as a .gani, and Graal: The Adventure was the main server and had more than 300 players on it.

Questa 12-28-2004 08:42 AM

Old tileset, and it was fun.

Gambet 12-28-2004 08:48 AM

Meh, i remember when you didnt have to pay for graal, and when there was no P2P. The talk that P2P was goijng to come out started months before it came out. Everyone said they would quit, and most of the pro's did quit. Now, most sparrers open a lot of programs to help them lag, or just hack. Bleh.

James205 12-28-2004 11:26 AM

I remember when you didn't have to pay for graal and when accounts didn't exist. To save your settings you had to press F3 and save it as a file. And to open it you press F2 and it was easy to duplicate all items for other players and get all the hearts.

And when the main server was down everyone was either packed into the onlinestartlocal or in the other server known as the real world.

Then you had Pachuka who came and had his death sword and was a complete jerk to most people he didn't know. Then he threatened graal that he would sue them if they continued to use his levels after he was gone from graal, so I believe they got rid of most of them (big rainbow castle).

Then a couple years later I returned to a different kind of Graal Classic (formely known as Main Server) and played that for a while and joined NBK. Then a couple months later newmain was released and we were promised that classic would stay free... but now it's not. Then about a year later I became the Global Account Administrator for 6-7 months(previously just account manager for 4-5 months) then quit thinking I wouldn't ever come back. 3 years later here I am again ^^

unixmad 12-28-2004 11:43 AM

Graal servers are hosted on a dedicated backbone managed by Cyberjoueurs (BGP...), we have a total of 3 Gigabit line completly dedicated to graal servers, so lag probably comes from your ISP.

Distributing old version of graal is completly illegal. We have never allowed anyone to distribute graalonline client because we don't want anyone to put Virus on the client neither modify it.

You can still archive version on your local HD but you are not allowed to distribute them.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Gambet
Meh, i remember when you didnt have to pay for graal, and when there was no P2P. The talk that P2P was goijng to come out started months before it came out. Everyone said they would quit, and most of the pro's did quit. Now, most sparrers open a lot of programs to help them lag, or just hack. Bleh.


James205 12-28-2004 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unixmad
Graal servers are hosted on a dedicated backbone managed by Cyberjoueurs (BGP...), we have a total of 3 Gigabit line completly dedicated to graal servers, so lag probably comes from your ISP.

Distributing old version of graal is completly illegal. We have never allowed anyone to distribute graalonline client because we don't want anyone to put Virus on the client neither modify it.

You can still archive version on your local HD but you are not allowed to distribute them.

Well somehow they will get around to other people, there is no way to stop it.

Benm00t 12-28-2004 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unixmad
You can still archive version on your local HD but you are not allowed to distribute them.

If i want to archive a copy of the old client, which is legal... i would have to have someone send me a copy... which is illegal?

syltburk 12-28-2004 04:40 PM

I have alot of memories, I remember the firstguild I joined (LOG) and I didnt know that you had to set your nick as u had set it in the guild CP so I was like "WHY DOESNT IT WORK!?!?!?!?!??!?"

I remember when I wanted to join NBK, NBK had been offical for like one month and everyone was telling me it was totally awesome.. I was a noob these days probably named "NINJA MASTER" or something like that so im asking Dayson to join right? He tells me too go to zols named as "SHAYDE IS A ****" (or something like that).. Then I got totally dissed because they didnt want any one who insulted Shayde, they were laughting man!!!!
(Im in NBK now)

Lets stop talking about Classic know (but I do miss when zols could have 20 people just chilling out)
Lets talk about Babylon and the first Owner named Lord Helmut, I had never been staff on graal and babylon was at the time when there was always 10 people max. I got all happy when I got a pub job on Babylon and became Lord Helmuts son ; P.

I remember when liquidice was manager on UN.
I remember:
RIP DREX SADAR!!!!!
Lord Helmut
Tom Chill
Leon Chill
Magnus Chill
Biggie Chill
ArchAngel Chill
NoMaD Chill
Fei Chill
Kosma
Shayde
Dayson
Digger
Rami
Reiko
Jasper
Macabre (guild)
godlike
Lord Chimp
Zols
Zorro
Xavier Chill
Knuckles
geovannie
Tifa
Blake
LaZyBoY
Fiftie
Spark911 (When I was GP on hes server he was making, remember spark ;))?
Graal 2001
trooper (hacker who always came in to classic chillin with us on AC, no one ever actually cared about him hacking.. lol
Hell Raven
Enigma
Mithica
Ferrari
Auoriria Online or whatever it was named.
Andor
XPY
Zew
(Wasn't it another german server X_X?)
Holy (THE REAL HOLY NO ONE ELSE)
Golden Slayer
Snapek
Minoc
Sting Darkmane (NEWB on 56K)!!!
sk8terboy (the leader of WS or was).
Angel as GM on Frolic.
Mr. Glub Glub
Rage Chill
Raven Chill
Lee
Maloria (when CyberX was manager and tyrial Co-Manager).
Dante
paexea
Lyndzey
Masah
bannanas chill
Balrog Chill
Bloodvayne
Ricardo Sadar
Angel Clan
Dozers
SL first day it got out.
G_Yoshi
Smoke
Tyrial
Master Storm
Denim
Exodus
Jay (Mung)
Alf (Mung)
Pachuka
JellyFish (sadly yes =/)
Lord Scaarub
Matin Cyrilin
Bef
Zub Messiah
Loxeus family
Awakened
BTK (on classic)
Turks
NBK
LOG
Ventrue Vampires
Final Fantasy
Jedi Knights
and more

Minoc 12-28-2004 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syltburk
I remember when I wanted to join NBK, NBK had been offical for like one month

That's impossible, unless you're talking about the recreation of the guild back in 2001 (or 2002).

James205 12-28-2004 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syltburk
I have alot of memories, I remember the firstguild I joined (LOG) and I didnt know that you had to set your nick as u had set it in the guild CP so I was like "WHY DOESNT IT WORK!?!?!?!?!??!?"

I remember when I wanted to join NBK, NBK had been offical for like one month and everyone was telling me it was totally awesome.. I was a noob these days probably named "NINJA MASTER" or something like that so im asking Dayson to join right? He tells me too go to zols named as "SHAYDE IS A ****" (or something like that).. Then I got totally dissed because they didnt want any one who insulted Shayde, they were laughting man!!!!
(Im in NBK now)

Lets stop talking about Classic know (but I do miss when zols could have 20 people just chilling out)
Lets talk about Babylon and the first Owner named Lord Helmut, I had never been staff on graal and babylon was at the time when there was always 10 people max. I got all happy when I got a pub job on Babylon and became Lord Helmuts son ; P.

I remember when liquidice was manager on UN.
I remember:
RIP DREX SADAR!!!!!
Lord Helmut
Tom Chill
Leon Chill
Magnus Chill
Biggie Chill
ArchAngel Chill
NoMaD Chill
Fei Chill
Kosma
Shayde
Dayson
Digger
Rami
Reiko
Jasper
Macabre (guild)
godlike
Lord Chimp
Zols
Zorro
Xavier Chill
Knuckles
geovannie
Tifa
Blake
LaZyBoY
Fiftie
Spark911 (When I was GP on hes server he was making, remember spark ;))?
Graal 2001
trooper (hacker who always came in to classic chillin with us on AC, no one ever actually cared about him hacking.. lol
Hell Raven
Enigma
Mithica
Ferrari
Auoriria Online or whatever it was named.
Andor
XPY
Zew
(Wasn't it another german server X_X?)
Holy (THE REAL HOLY NO ONE ELSE)
Golden Slayer
Snapek
Minoc
Sting Darkmane (NEWB on 56K)!!!
sk8terboy (the leader of WS or was).
Angel as GM on Frolic.
Mr. Glub Glub
Rage Chill
Raven Chill
Lee
Maloria (when CyberX was manager and tyrial Co-Manager).
Dante
paexea
Lyndzey
Masah
bannanas chill
Balrog Chill
Bloodvayne
Ricardo Sadar
Angel Clan
Dozers
SL first day it got out.
G_Yoshi
Smoke
Tyrial
Master Storm
Denim
Exodus
Jay (Mung)
Alf (Mung)
and more

NBKs original leader was Darkman, what year did you try to join?

syltburk 12-28-2004 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James205
NBKs original leader was Darkman, what year did you try to join?

I dont remember that, it was a long time ago...
when I was a newb and wanted to join my nick went as Ninja master o.o :P


my account was Skappa and nickname £ord EK when I joined NBK for the first time...

RiceNetworkingSource 12-28-2004 05:38 PM

Another old server I remember was Termina, Rick was owner of that and he was one of this 1st people to get the npcserver. I remember how the doors lag.
*Also Mithica was a awesome server! GP Chief was fan as i recall*

protagonist 12-28-2004 06:15 PM

I remember losing my suicide dagger on main when the servers got fried and they reset everyone. I remember when they implemented the hera system >=(!

Zurkiba 12-28-2004 06:31 PM

I lead Graal Royal Army back when I played on Classic. I was the third leader after Tseng (Not the Tseng we know today, it was a different Tseng)

That's about all I did a long time ago.

Then on 2k1 I lead Warhare Family

That's about all the old stuff I was apart of :(

Minoc 12-28-2004 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James205
NBKs original leader was Darkman, what year did you try to join?

The original was Draxi, although I recall Darkman being the 'main' leader back in 2000.

Minoc 12-28-2004 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zurkiba
I lead Graal Royal Army back when I played on Classic.

Wasn't Graal Royal Army kinda "The Royals" wannabe?

ThinkDifferent 12-28-2004 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T3CK
I remember before there was such thing as a .gani, and Graal: The Adventure was the main server and had more than 300 players on it.


How's your dog?

syltburk 12-28-2004 06:42 PM

Man that was the days when 300 players were online classic =/

Minoc 12-28-2004 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syltburk
Man that was the days when 300 players were online classic =/

Year? Version?

GoZelda 12-28-2004 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by protagonist
I remember losing my suicide dagger on main when the servers got fried and they reset everyone. I remember when they implemented the hera system >=(!

That was annoying. I remember that when I went out of the new starters house thinkl there was a huge PKing fest going on.

James205 12-28-2004 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syltburk
Man that was the days when 300 players were online classic =/

Yeah, it was extremely laggy. I remember when 30-40 players were considered a lot for graal.

amonrabr 12-28-2004 07:28 PM

I remember almost everything you people said =)
Do you people remember the old Graal 3000?
I remember to get the ATM card, we had to say "ǿ" or another strange char.
I remember we could push some statues near a strange castle.
I think the servers I most liked was g3k and Dino Valley
=)

T3CK 12-28-2004 07:37 PM

The last time that Classic had a steady player count of around 300 players was probably right before Graal2001 came out. There were a LOT of players on N-Pulse, too, around 150 at a time. So around 500 players on those two servers alone, it was pretty cool, when the server list was put into Graal I played N-Pulse for a while, but switched back to main. Valikorlia had a couple of players, around 75 at a time. You don't see that many players on Graal these days because you have to pay to get the most out of the game.

Anybody remember that guy "delv" who just sat at one place outside of Supernick's and just mass messaged and PMed ALL DAY LONG? I abused my GP powers and moved him to the middle of Angel Clan lol

thesaiyan 12-28-2004 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amonrabr
I remember almost everything you people said =)
Do you people remember the old Graal 3000?
I remember to get the ATM card, we had to say "ǿ" or another strange char.
I remember we could push some statues near a strange castle.
I think the servers I most liked was g3k and Dino Valley
=)

That server had so many trainer users. You couldn't go through one level without some idiot killing you with a level 29382094832 sword or blasting you to death. :frown:

Minoc 12-28-2004 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T3CK
Anybody remember that guy "delv" who just sat at one place outside of Supernick's and just mass messaged and PMed ALL DAY LONG? I abused my GP powers and moved him to the middle of Angel Clan lol

I remember a couple of people who kept sending annoying masses for hours, this is probably one of them.

syltburk 12-28-2004 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minoc
Year? Version?

I havn't looked at the versions I downloaded. It was when we had ghost mode remember? You had to wait for a long time to play lol.. But at the same time its all the complaints about ghost mode that made it so we had too get gold =/

Crono 12-28-2004 08:40 PM

I remember dancing with girls by them pushing me and me pushing them on Elven Lands. I was such a noooooooob!

Graal ruled in 2001-2002, everything after that just plain sucked.

Minoc 12-28-2004 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syltburk
I havn't looked at the versions I downloaded. It was when we had ghost mode remember? You had to wait for a long time to play lol.. But at the same time its all the complaints about ghost mode that made it so we had too get gold =/

Late 2001\Early 2002.

WanDaMan 12-28-2004 08:42 PM

I remember Nemesis going corrupt.

syltburk 12-28-2004 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minoc
Late 2001\Early 2002.

Why are you asking me these questions anyway?

Zurkiba 12-28-2004 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minoc
Wasn't Graal Royal Army kinda "The Royals" wannabe?

I dont remember a guild called 'The Royals'. But Graal Royal Army was made by some newbie who called himself the King of Graal (surprise surprise) only this guy made an actual guild to enforce his claim XD.

He later quit and it was passed down until it reached me.

Minoc 12-28-2004 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zurkiba
I dont remember a guild called 'The Royals'. But Graal Royal Army was made by some newbie who called himself the King of Graal (surprise surprise) only this guy made an actual guild to enforce his claim XD.

He later quit and it was passed down until it reached me.

Yeah, that's my invention >_< . The founder of Graal Royal Army was a member of The Royals (which I led in my newbie days).

Minoc 12-28-2004 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syltburk
Why are you asking me these questions anyway?

Because that didn't make any sense:
Quote:

NBK had been offical for like one month

Gambet 12-28-2004 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unixmad
Graal servers are hosted on a dedicated backbone managed by Cyberjoueurs (BGP...), we have a total of 3 Gigabit line completly dedicated to graal servers, so lag probably comes from your ISP.

Distributing old version of graal is completly illegal. We have never allowed anyone to distribute graalonline client because we don't want anyone to put Virus on the client neither modify it.

You can still archive version on your local HD but you are not allowed to distribute them.


Not once in my post did i mention that any of the lag comes from the servers that graal is ran on. I mentioned that people open programs, such as Kazaa and other things to help them lag, while sparring or pking. There are also hacks, where you can turn on/off god mode whenever you want, which most people use also, which is also why i dont spar anymore. Well, unless its with a friend. Most lag does come from the users ISP, but...

more programs opened = more lag = play graal = get hit once every 20 swings.

Hope you understand what i meant now.

Nappa 12-28-2004 09:23 PM

I remember.. August of 99.. I played N-Pulse as my first server for 2 days, and I was banned by a corrupt GP. Then I went to Bravo Online.. What fun times.. PKing with Termina, Wilddude, Zero, other people..

First Guild I joined was Jiggaz led by Rozzmo on Bravo. Man.. good times. We used to go and beat up on those Alexandria newbs who took the game WAY too seriously. Then G2k1 Came out a long time later, and I left Bravo because Brandon took over manager of Bravo. Then I played 2k1.. I started off as a bomy for 1 day then I was like "hey, we suck".. Changed to human.

Also, if anyone else wants to know, I started the first Kingdom WAR* (edit) on 2k1. I hated Asuka, and like 70% of the server was on his side, even people not in the kingdom. We held the war on mini survivor, and Zormite showed up and fought on my side against Dustari. Their goal was to kill us all, our goal was to just kill Asuka, since they had a much larger army. Me and Asuka ended up killing eachother both on the same hit, and we won the war! After that, I joined Zormite a couple weeks later.


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