Online Leveling Making

[LegendaryTsukasa]

I have seen a lot of scripters, are making new "Online Graal Level Editers" in which you can selete some tiles online from the list, and upload them onto the NPC server, either making them permanant, or only temporary. I have also seen one that also includs scripting o_o!

I know that N-Pulse has one of these, but has anyone else made one, and have you made a good level with it?

This NPC could be a wave in leveling editing. You can fix tile errors without having to go offline and do a whole buncha stuff.

[haunter]

We're getting this built into the next version of Graal anyway...

[VeX_RaT_Boy]

I have made one for Nolavario. Made it just for fun, so it's not that great, but it's working

[URBANLEGEND]

Ajara made one once, it was fun to use.

[LegendaryTsukasa]

Urban, don't you mean, "Ajira" ?

[Crono]

I hate them. Several reasons why but we don't need to argue. Seems the majority of the scripters want it :/.

[DarkShadows_Legend]

The nicest one that I have seen is the one Malinko made.

I hate the one on N-Pulse. I think it's slowing down the server. It takes me about 2 minutes to open the levels folder there X.X

[Genesis]

The one we have for Adiarde is nice.

[darkreign3]

The one on N-pulse is WAY To laggy then you get some **** to come in and mess it up.... but i guess thats why we have Privit Level editing rooms

[LegendaryTsukasa]

Hehe, Chrono, you can list why you dislike them. Don't be scared.

And yes, the N-Pulse one is very laggy. I think it would be better as a LAT Staff tool.

[Crono]

Eventually offline editing will be taken out and it'll only be online. There are some bad things with this.

1) Saving it to your hard drive?

2) I'm sorry but some of us feel more comfortable doing things offline and THEN uploading them.

3) I dont want people to watch me placing one tile at a time.

4) I would hate working for 1 hour only to find that my internet screws up and I get disconnected. (Hey it happens :/)

5) There will be some minor lag so things would be perfectly quick.

6) What if our internet breaks? I make levels for fun while it's down.

7) Level practice? If it's going to be offline all our practice will be automatically submitted to graal and I do not want that.

8) Offline is fine. Why change it anyway?

[haunter]

These are the things i've been saying, I don't see the point in replacing Offline editing completely... What if I wanna work on something and I'm on a computer without internet access? Like a laptop or something.

[DarkShadows_Legend]

6) What if our internet breaks? I make levels for fun while it's down

Good point. Another thing is staff that d/c people because they think they are idling. Imagine being so focused into your work you don't check pms or anything and a GP or admin thinks you are idling and decides to d/c your RC. It will suck if the work hasn't been saved automatically.

Other things to consider.
- Annoying newbs that want to see your work.
- Suck ups that harrass you to work for their server.
- Annoying newbs that wanna playa hate and diss your work cause they don't like you for any reason.
(This can turn people away)
- Stupid staff and abuse.
Example of stupid staff:
Level Maker builds a wall and the level is updated. Some newbie player is in the spot that was updated and is now on a wall. GP passes by !OMG WALL HACKER BAN BAN BAN.
Examples of abuse:
1: LAT builds a wall to trap a player for fun.
2: LAT builds a wall and calls a GP to say this guy is wall hacking. GP Bans.
- Server Down Time. When graal is down you won't be able to make levels unless you have the offline level editor.
- Level Stealers. (Alt+5 real fast, and then submit to another server.)
- Lack of Progression.
Graals level quality will go down because not everyone wants to slave away for a playerworld.
Also not everyone can produce quality levels straight away. Lots of practice is sufficient for most newcomers.

These are just some things. I'm sure other problems will appear.

[darkreign3]

OMg i see you

[LegendaryTsukasa]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Eventually offline editing will be taken out and it'll only be online. There are some bad things with this.

1) Saving it to your hard drive?

2) I'm sorry but some of us feel more comfortable doing things offline and THEN uploading them.

3) I dont want people to watch me placing one tile at a time.

4) I would hate working for 1 hour only to find that my internet screws up and I get disconnected. (Hey it happens :/)

5) There will be some minor lag so things would be perfectly quick.

6) What if our internet breaks? I make levels for fun while it's down.

7) Level practice? If it's going to be offline all our practice will be automatically submitted to graal and I do not want that.

8) Offline is fine. Why change it anyway?

Offline can make complex levels. Online can fix the little bugs. I don't think anyone in his right mind would place one tile at a time online while players are bugging him. But say, you forgot a little tile some place, or you need a player closed off, you could put some tiles in online, instead of having to pull up offline stuff and go through all of that.
It's a nice addition that makes fixing Level busg easier. I don;t think it will ever replace offline level making.