Guild System

NovaNET · #1 07-31-2003, 04:41 AM

Angel, I was wondering what the status of the guilds are since your now in charge of the website and guilds as a i understand and perhaps you could also fill us in on how soon to expect VIP Forums aswell?

Angel · #2 07-31-2003, 04:51 AM

I've been doing some mock idea's. I have quite a nice system done but I gotta wait for the papers so that I can start working on it. Im sure YOU understand, hehe. And we (Me and Tyhm) need to talk to Unixmad to see how he wants the forum laid out. We plan on coming out with some new good things for VIP soon. So look forward to that.

NovaNET · #3 07-31-2003, 04:56 AM

Thanks for the update angel im sure everyone would benefit from hearing the good news. Have a "GREAT" evening =)

Angel · #4 07-31-2003, 04:58 AM

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Originally posted by NovaNET
Thanks for the update angel im sure everyone would benefit from hearing the good news. Have a "GREAT" evening =)

Yea get on AIM. I wanna talk to you for a second.

Ziro_Vitrudestec · #5 07-31-2003, 06:46 AM

It's so sad when guilds are gone...in my opinion, when guilds aren't working properly, every Graal problem is magnified 1700x, but when guilds ARE working just fine, I'm so entertained with guilds, I forget that there even are problems with Graal. Now I start to think about things like...how alchemy items need fixing on GK, how RPing is bad on GK, etc... Guilds are to me, as a pacifier is to an infant. I need that toy to chew/suck on

screen_name · #6 07-31-2003, 07:29 AM

I can't wait for the VIP forums. (drools)

ETD · #7 07-31-2003, 07:40 AM

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Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec
It's so sad when guilds are gone...in my opinion, when guilds aren't working properly, every Graal problem is magnified 1700x, but when guilds ARE working just fine, I'm so entertained with guilds, I forget that there even are problems with Graal. Now I start to think about things like...how alchemy items need fixing on GK, how RPing is bad on GK, etc... Guilds are to me, as a pacifier is to an infant. I need that toy to chew/suck on

i feel the same way...
graal without working guilds = not entertaining at all
=(
Angel, please, before you do anything else on the site, please just add a 'delete member' option to the guild panel, and if you have time, a way to promote/demote members?

tlf288 · #8 07-31-2003, 08:05 AM

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Originally posted by ETD

Angel, please, before you do anything else on the site, please just asdd a 'delete member' option to the guild panel, anmd if you have time, a way to promote/demote members?

I think she could very quickly, if only she had that damned paper work done

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superb · #9 07-31-2003, 08:08 AM

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Originally posted by tlf288

I think she could very quickly, if only she had that damned paper work done .

And it doesn't help that unixmad just went and skipped town without preparing for his own absence. ;\

Projectshifter · #10 07-31-2003, 08:34 AM

Arg, this kills me =x
I love Angel to death, but I asked Unix to let me do this MONTHS ago, hell I even forum PM'ed him a few weeks back... I never get to talk to him, the ONLY forum PM of mine he's replied to is when it was about him getting money... I figured he might actually READ my PMs (you can check message tracking and it shows read/unread), but he doesn't even show me that courtesy

I'm sure Angel will do a great job though

---Shifter

superb · #11 07-31-2003, 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by Projectshifter
Arg, this kills me =x
I love Angel to death, but I asked Unix to let me do this MONTHS ago, hell I even forum PM'ed him a few weeks back... I never get to talk to him, the ONLY forum PM of mine he's replied to is when it was about him getting money... I figured he might actually READ my PMs (you can check message tracking and it shows read/unread), but he doesn't even show me that courtesy
I'm sure Angel will do a great job though
---Shifter

From now on put MONEY as the subject of your PMS..

Demon · #12 07-31-2003, 09:41 AM

Unixmad probably chose her over you PS cuz shes doing it for free.. and you know unixmad.

superb · #13 07-31-2003, 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by Demon
Unixmad probably chose her over you PS cuz shes doing it for free.. and you know unixmad.

I think it's more to do with the fact the unix and angel are close friends then the money thing.

Spark910 · #14 07-31-2003, 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by NovaNET
Thanks for the update angel im sure everyone would benefit from hearing the good news.

Not really.

NovaNET · #15 07-31-2003, 10:59 PM

Minoc · #16 07-31-2003, 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by NovaNET
Thanks for the update angel im sure everyone would benefit from hearing the good news. Have a "GREAT" evening =)

No good news yet =\

daboo · #17 07-31-2003, 11:54 PM

Posting this FOR a friend (not account sharing).

** Message Start
From Sharki -General- (LOG)

It's great that someone is making progress on the GuildCP.

I just had one request. If at all possible, could a way of having
another site retrieve player accounts and nicknames that are members of
a guild via PHP/SQL? All that information is available to the public
through the Guild List section, but having a way to access it through
scripts would a great aid to guilds that might want to create advanced
features on their own guild sites or that would want to have member
lists on their own site.. I am working on creating a new member database
for LOG, and having the ability to check if a player is officially in
the guild would be a great asset. If this is not possible, that is fine.
If it is, please do not waste time implementing this before the GuildCP
and the rest of the site are finished.

~Sharki -General- (LOG)
** Message End

jacob_bald6225 · #18 08-01-2003, 01:42 AM

The thing where you can see what guilds someone is in would possibly ruin part of the fun in guild espionage... if anyone still does it, thats one of the more fun things with guilds...

Neonight · #19 08-01-2003, 04:57 AM

I sure wouldn't remind a "remove" button. ;o Or at least Hoss wouldn't. Wanting to clear out some of the inactive Baddies.

Projectshifter · #20 08-01-2003, 05:28 AM

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Originally posted by Demon
Unixmad probably chose her over you PS cuz shes doing it for free.. and you know unixmad.

There was no money requested, I wanted to do it for free. I've never asked to paid a cent for anything I've done. I enjoy coding, and I enjoy making players happy, so it would be no big deal to me. Plus I haven't gotten a chance to code much PHP/MySQL in a few months, so I'm very eager =)
---Shifter

Projectshifter · #21 08-01-2003, 05:31 AM

After readnig a few more posts, I felt a double post was justified, 2 different topics

It is possible to have it get the guild listing and such based on a username/password, but you would have to do your sites in PHP most likely. Something like:

NPC Code:



<?php

$guildname = "Adept";

$password = "PassworD";

include('http://www.graalonline.com/guildcp/remote.php');

?>

Something along those lines might work, because allowing remote access to the database wouldn't be very smart =x
---Shifter

Python523 · #22 08-01-2003, 06:13 AM

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Originally posted by Projectshifter

Plus I haven't gotten a chance to code much PHP/MySQL in a few months, so I'm very eager =)
---Shifter

The guildcp should be a professional thing, not something a 16-17 year old kid uses as a 'learning' experiance

matt8891 · #23 08-01-2003, 06:42 AM

I cant wait for my guild Shadow Sages to get back up...It got suspended.....And i hope soon that Edit Members Information will be up very soon.

Inferno · #24 08-01-2003, 07:22 AM

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Originally posted by jacob_bald6225
The thing where you can see what guilds someone is in would possibly ruin part of the fun in guild espionage... if anyone still does it, thats one of the more fun things with guilds...

noone does that anymore

and it would prevent multiguilding

jacob_bald6225 · #25 08-01-2003, 07:38 AM

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Originally posted by Inferno

and it would prevent multiguilding

Hey I used a quote, i'm so spiffy... but i dont really think multiguilding is that good, you should stick to one guild and fight wars ect. against an enemy guild and stuff, its way more fun that way.

Johnny_5 · #26 08-01-2003, 08:37 AM

I hope create a guild will also come out.
We havent been able to create guilds for about 6 months.

Angel · #27 08-01-2003, 02:40 PM

I got quite a few things done and ready. Register,Add,remove,Reassign(Promote,Demote),Notes ,Accoucements (Was basically done).

Also whoever said about that remote listing. Should I do it as a option or enabled for all guilds? Input would be nice. Not much work to do it at all.As PS said I could require a password of the leaders chose to given so not just anyone can list. But I want to do a basic version (just HTML) and advanced (PHP). Anyone give some input,

Minoc · #28 08-01-2003, 03:07 PM

I think there should also be an option to view a member's stats in a certain server.

Projectshifter · #29 08-01-2003, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by Python523

The guildcp should be a professional thing, not something a 16-17 year old kid uses as a 'learning' experiance

Thanks Jagen... but I actually do know how to code in PHP/MySQL. It isn't a learning experience...

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Originally posted by Angel
[B]

Also whoever said about that remote listing. Should I do it as a option or enabled for all guilds? Input would be nice. Not much work to do it at all.As PS said I could require a password of the leaders chose to given so not just anyone can list. But I want to do a basic version (just HTML) and advanced (PHP). Anyone give some input,/B]

I'm not sure about making it an option. It would just be easier to go ahead and make it enabled for all. The thing though, is the file needs to be able connect to the database, get the listing, and close the database. If you don't close the database at the end, then it leaves it open for people to add in their own coding. A password might be the easiest thing to do in all honesty... but would it be the leader's graal pass or just a pass the guild leader sets?
---Shifter

Angel · #30 08-02-2003, 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by Projectshifter

Thanks Jagen... but I actually do know how to code in PHP/MySQL. It isn't a learning experience...

I'm not sure about making it an option. It would just be easier to go ahead and make it enabled for all. The thing though, is the file needs to be able connect to the database, get the listing, and close the database. If you don't close the database at the end, then it leaves it open for people to add in their own coding. A password might be the easiest thing to do in all honesty... but would it be the leader's graal pass or just a pass the guild leader sets?
---Shifter

errrrrrrrrr. It's called a real only MySQL user.... As I said it would be a password the leader sets.

NovaNET · #31 08-02-2003, 01:19 AM

You mean you made your own mock-up code which will have to be modified to meet the already existing code of the GuildCP that you dont yet possess so thus your gonna have to redo everything your working on (or just modify) correct? or am i wrong ... you might wanna get ahold of me because atleast i know the MySQL structuring of graal as a whole.

Projectshifter · #32 08-04-2003, 12:53 AM

I wonder what IS all in for accounts in the MySQL database. Hmm... passwords = md5 encrypted?
---Shifter

unixmad · #33 08-05-2003, 10:26 AM

Guild system and VIP forums are my priorities for August ! So stay tuned like will say Stefan there is some wind of change.

MadWolf · #34 08-05-2003, 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by unixmad
Guild system and VIP forums are my priorities for August ! So stay tuned like will say Stefan there is some wind of change.

I dont get it, to add a forum to vBulletin it takes 10 minutes... that's a months priority? Agh.

Angel · #35 08-05-2003, 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by MadWolf

I dont get it, to add a forum to vBulletin it takes 10 minutes... that's a months priority? Agh.

But he has to only allow VIP members. So that means writting a script to auto sort VIP's into a special group then add that group to the Forum Access Mask. And Then he has to populate that forums with topics.

voicedcow6666 · #36 08-05-2003, 12:12 PM

In response to the whole guild roster retrieval:

You can already do it, and it's pretty simple. Just find out the Guild ID (which is simple) and use fopen() with that page (e.g. http://graalonline.com/guilds/viewgu...0&view=members is for the guild Texan), read the source, and break it down to display the members.

It wouldn't hurt to do it, would use less system resources, but there's no point in password protecting it. Just have it where you can do include_once('http://www.graalonline/guilds/retrieve.php?guild=GUILDNAME');. Though if you do enable the ability to use cross-site scripting on that make sure you do take proper security actions.

And to PS, If he did leave the database resource link open you couldn't call call queries to that database using that resource link. Cross-site scripting doesn't work like that, all it would do is pull the HTML...But that still is a necessary step which should be taken, and could be a security risk.

You say you've had months of experience...in programming, especially large languages like PHP, a few months isn't enough time to become good enough to do something like this. Considering Unixmad is running multiple servers and is using CPU usage from other things you'd want it to use bare minimum usage. You can't learn the necessary steps to do this in a few months time...I've programmed in PHP for years, and there's still stuff I don't know...so you can pretty much guess how much confidence I have in your scripting ability, especially after out "conversation" the other day.

NovaNET · #37 08-05-2003, 09:51 PM

I am at the LinuxWorld conference and its bumping =)

tlf288 · #38 08-05-2003, 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by NovaNET
I am at the LinuxWorld conference and its bumping =)

I SO wish I was there

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ETD · #39 08-05-2003, 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by NovaNET
I am at the LinuxWorld conference and its bumping =)

is that you on AIM?
cuz i IMed your AIM name, and 'you' told me to 'f off' and that doesn;t sound like you
=x
also your cell number isn;t working anymore... i assume you canceled that plan or something

NovaNET · #40 08-05-2003, 10:38 PM

I just logged on fine and didnt see you on at all other then that i havent been on the net im at the linuxworld conference making deals for my work with hardware and software vendors.

a whole month todo VIP Forums and GuildCP that for me anyways is a 2-3 day job. Also unixmad need to get in touch with you as ill be sponsoring several playerworlds and be paying for them