I find it funny that you don't help much.

[zell12]

I think alot of people are are good scripts like Kai, don't help others as much as they should be. I mean, like if someone come son here asking for help and to fix a part of a script that isn't working because of some variables messing up that they didn't mean to use or wenn't supposed to or soemthing like that, then kai or falcor just delete the thread. Then the player that needed help will become either mad and angry and spam a bunch and mabey get banned, or they will become discouraged and think the entire game is made up of people like this and leave.
Mabey if you thought for one second that the way you treat others will affect their thought of how other will treat them on the game, then you would probably help more.

[zell12]

I was just looking through and saw the one about the hand car. I was about tor reply and say it in that one, but "someone" deleted it.

[Dach]

Alot of these people are complete idiots, or atleast portray themselves as such, so what makes you think they deserve "help" even though they are asking for complete scripts?

[Python523]

why should people get the easy way out when (most of us) we learned by ourselves, let them learn on there own, I agree with chad, most of them ARE idiots that shouldn't even be attempting to script

[Jeff]

Excuse me, isn't this thread off topic?


But anyway, the people asking for full scripts et cetera should be stopped from doing so.

[zell12]

I said that people asking for while scripts should be hog tied and poked in the eyes. But asking people to fix parts of a script or asking people what is what in part of a script is what im talking about. In that thread, someone said that if you ask for parts of a script or ask people to help you, you won't get it.

[Jeff]

Here you can get serious assistance...not many lines of code usually, but you can get advice.

[zell12]

This place is not very loving. You don't get much help if your new and people won't take the time to explain thigns to them. Atleast level makers are understandable. Aragh, im using a double-standard. Oh well.

[Falcor]

Originally posted by zell12
This place is not very loving. You don't get much help if your new and people won't take the time to explain thigns to them. Atleast level makers are understandable. Aragh, im using a double-standard. Oh well.

not many things that can go wrong in a level though, besides generally looking horrible or a few tile errors.

[Python523]

Originally posted by zell12
This place is not very loving. You don't get much help if your new and people won't take the time to explain thigns to them. Atleast level makers are understandable. Aragh, im using a double-standard. Oh well.

it doesnt have to be very loving, this is a development forum, not a gerneral discussion forum

[zell12]

and level making is also development.... You guys just hate helping while we write big paragraphs on tips, whats wrong, how to fix it, etc.... EVEN if its some dumb as **** that can't make levels, we will help him.

[Jeff]

Tiling is an art.

Scripting is more of a science; there is generally a single most efficient way to get a script to do what you want it to do.


As such, there are many more good tilers than good scripters. A lot of other factors as well.

[Spark910]

Originally posted by Python523
why should people get the easy way out when (most of us) we learned by ourselves, let them learn on there own, I agree with chad, most of them ARE idiots that shouldn't even be attempting to script

It would be good if someone did help. I dont mean all the threads like before ''Help'' etc... but the only way more people will script or get into scripting is if they can get help, else it may put them off. Same with levels most people mock while I try and give constructive comments then atleast that person feels better instead of giving up due to mass of insults. But yes I do half agree they may see it as a free ride, and end up copying all there scripts from others!

[Kiluminati]

Originally posted by Python523
why should people get the easy way out when (most of us) we learned by ourselves, let them learn on there own, I agree with chad, most of them ARE idiots that shouldn't even be attempting to script

little negative dont ya think? So your saying that if we dont understand a certain thing in a script that we should give up??? maybe some people arent as perfect as you are and might need some help here and there.....so if you were just learning and some said to you " my god you dont know what a string is you shouldnt even be scripting then"...would that give oyu much confidence?? i think not.

[zell12]

anyway, you can close this now, I just thought I'd get my point across about how scripters are more agressive when it comes to help then level makers.

[HoudiniMan]

Originally posted by zell12
I think alot of people are are good scripts like Kai, ...

Last time i check Kaimetsu was not a script...
You're nobody to complian, all you do is critisize people, you're doing it in this thread even... It should be closed.

[HoudiniMan]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Nah, it's not doing any harm. We may as well let him have his say.

*shrugs* His funeral... He has no point.

[SupermanJR]

Why do you even bother debating against Kaimetsu?
Not only is he SMART, but he's arogant. Theres no way you can win one with him. He always has an excuse, and he also always has the last word. Don't bother, inless you want to be torn from limb to limb. Let him be, you can't change him. Either way, this just adds to my theory of NAT's being lazy. Look in the Levels Forums. Every one helps each other out.
Kabam.

Edit-
And the whole level making thing.. If somebody DID ask for a level, we wouldn't delete thier post.. Spark or I would explain to him why he shouldn't ask for that, and I would maybe give him a suggestion or two on how to make the level he wants.
If I was in a good mood, I might actually make the level. Through all of this, I have one thing to say.
Be. Nice

[Python523]

good points but scripting is COMPLETELLY different than level making and it requires at least 3/4 of a mind and most people seem to not meet this requirement

[SupermanJR]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Is there an explicit rule saying that they shouldn't ask for levels? No? Then of course you shouldn't delete it. We have such a rule, and we enforce it.

--
Well, I'll jump head first into this.
The very point of NOT Having a rule like that is indeed what I was trying to say.
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Originally posted by SupermanJr
Through all of this, I have one thing to say.
Be. Nice

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If you can't respect some one enough to even reply to them, bothering to tell them not to do that. Lets say, you delete a post. Do you bother to send the kid a PM saying to read the rules?
People are lazy, and they shouldn't be; but is it THAT hard to sent them a PM? If you do send people PM's. "Whoops, my bad", and I apologize.. But I get this feeling you don't. Not sure where that comes from, but I'm pretty sure I'm right.
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Personally, I don't care how good of a scripter you are, I don't care how arogant you are; I don't care how many clever phrases you can spew out. The truth is, you need to be "nice". Give people the respect to talk to them. How long has it been since you were a 12 year old? No offense to you "youngin" out there, but you all need to follow the rules. I agree with you there Kai'. They NEED to read the rules; but they don't. You have every right to delete the post, but go ahead and PM them telling/linking them to the website. For god sakes, drop the hard ass appearance. It's getting old.
Any way, Thanks for readin Bud.

[ByblosHex]

All of you. zip it! the forum section is labeled 'show off your skills or ask the experts' so, with that being the title asking for help should be allowed even for the simplest of scripts, with no exceptions, that is all

[SupermanJR]

Originally posted by ByblosHex
All of you. zip it! the forum section is labeled 'show off your skills or ask the experts' so, with that being the title asking for help should be allowed even for the simplest of scripts, with no exceptions, that is all

Byblos..Read the post around you. And then go up and read MY post, THEN think about what you just said.

[Jeff]

SupermanJR:


(1) Learn grammar and punctuation.


(2) The rule is there for a reason. If people don't read the rules, then they deserve whatever boom Kai lowers on them and have it coming to boot.

[SupermanJR]

Originally posted by Jeff
SupermanJR:


(1) Learn grammar and punctuation.


(2) The rule is there for a reason. If people don't read the rules, then they deserve whatever boom Kai lowers on them and have it coming to boot.

Jeff:
(1) I type how I speak. If I put three periods infront of a sentence, it's a pause.
(2) Read the post. I was saying to give the person some "respect" and send them a PM
(3) Telling me to learn grammer and punctuation tells me something of your character.
(4) Even if I didn't type how I speak..That would be ok. Know why? Because...Graal has slang! As Nemesis told me " Get with it ".
(5) As an instrument of the Graal-slang..I present you with this
kthxbye

[Jeff]

Most slang coined in the past ten or twenty years is an affront to the English language.

Moreover, people who read the clearly-posted legislation will know that certain activities are contrary to said rules, and will be prepared for enforcement actions against their violations.

Those who have not read the rules are either illiterate and have no place here or negligent and have it coming.

[SupermanJR]

Originally posted by Jeff
Most slang coined in the past ten or twenty years is an affront to the English language.

Moreover, people who read the clearly-posted legislation will know that certain activities are contrary to said rules, and will be prepared for enforcement actions against their violations.

Those who have not read the rules are either illiterate and have no place here or negligent and have it coming.

Oh.. So what you're saying there.. the ignorant have no place in the world? Or maybe the Forums? Tell you what Jeff, I'm glad all Graalians arn't like you. I have my own opinion aswell. ****-socialist don't belong in the forum today. Jeff..You're sad man. You're no superior to a four year old girl living in a third world country. Get over your self..
Ever heard the phrase "Ignorance is bliss"?
Of course you have, but those who say that phrase are bliss themselves.. Jeff, get out of that egotistical state of mind.. Serouisly, that is the most ignorant thing I have ever heard..
"Those who teach nothing, learn nothing. Those who learn nothing cannot teach anything". My god, what is the world coming to, when ignorance is fore bayed among FORUMS.

[Jeff]

SupermanJR:

Those who choose to be ignorant (viz., ignore the clearly-posted democratically-ratified rules) have chosen their fate.

I think you are saying "My god, what has this world come to? Ignorance is forbidden in a forum!" in which case I say you are correct. Ignorance of the rules, when they are clearly posted, is no excuse for violation. It is the responsibility of the forum user to be aware of the rules and obey them.

I'd comment more, perhaps even write a parable, except that your poor spelling and grammar, along with your lack of organization, make much of your message unintelligible.

[SaitoHajime]

Originally posted by SupermanJR

Oh.. So what you're saying there.. the ignorant have no place in the world? Or maybe the Forums? Tell you what Jeff, I'm glad all Graalians arn't like you. I have my own opinion aswell. ****-socialist don't belong in the forum today. .

Ok, here we go.

-Ignorant people use their own ignorance as a shield, to avoid learning what they don't want to learn.

-Last I checked, Jeff wasn't a follower of that political theory.

-How is Jeff sad? Because he has a drive to be superior to the "common man"?

-Egotistical? He may be, but you're giving him no reason to think he's any less better than other people.

Jeff..You're sad man. You're no superior to a four year old girl living in a third world country

I share Kaimetsu's viewpoint about this remark.

Get over your self..
Ever heard the phrase "Ignorance is bliss"?
Of course you have, but those who say that phrase are bliss themselves.. Jeff, get out of that egotistical state of mind..

How can a person be bliss? That's like saying that I am literally happiness, sadness, or some other emotion. You aren't an emotion - you feel an emotion.

Serouisly, that is the most ignorant thing I have ever heard..

Sounds like you haven't read anything you've typed so far.

"Those who teach nothing, learn nothing. Those who learn nothing cannot teach anything".

I don't see you teaching anything.

My god, what is the world coming to, when ignorance is fore bayed among FORUMS.

As far as I can see it's not "fore bayed" (I'm assuming you mean forbidden). I say this based on the sheer amount of it that I see every time I browse the forums. A better question to ask would be something such as "What is the world coming to, when ignorance is so commonplace on these forums?"

[Delteria_Free18]

If you have scripting questions you can easily post them at http://delteria.net forums and we will answer them in a sexier fashion

we pride ourselves in keeping our users happy

Some people :cough:Kaimetsu:cough: are truly "jerks" and should stick to doing what they do instead of punishing people on the forums. You can be the best scripter in the world or whatever in the world, but if you have a bad attitude no one will like you.... I am sure the only reason people even want to talk to you is because you are "high up" on the graal chain...

this is complete bullcrap, this game is a paid game... you should worry about treating your CUSTOMERS like real people! AND PAYING CUSTOMERS WE ARE!

so get off your high horse, you are just a little prick who thinks he's better than everyone....

dont get me wrong....
They are breaking the "rules", however stupid they are, maybe you should explain in that post that you cant give out a full script but give them some scripting help they wouldnt possibly understand if they didnt make the script... it would probably help the "smarter" people to see howto do certain things

[emortylone]

Wonder why you haven't seen me in ages? I'm tired of the stupidity of many people who can't read "don't ask for full scripts". I get too many people saying "join my playerworld!" or other things, it gets old. I stopped coming on AIM for a while too, just until recently. Most of the time I can be found on 2k2 Debug or sometimes on Kingdoms. But I am going to give forums another chance. I have my own PW, so why would I really want to join one? And I love to help people learn to script better, but I refuse to help people who PM me "can you make me a skateboard script" or "do you have the skateboard script" like somehow there is one script that I magically have, and that I"m too ignorant to make my own. I get people occasionally that show me some of their work and want to learn to improve, and I'm all for that. And I support Kai in his actions fully. So if you have a problem w/ him, you've got a problem with me
---Shifter

[sage_chaozu]

Newbie Scripters are lazier than Expert Scripters in my opinion. Because the few I have ran into never want to read and just want it all coded for them.

Here is a famous quote:

hey, can you put it in if (created) form

or

hey, can you put it in if (playerenters) form

I am like, that's a standard form now? Kai do you know if it is or something? All I know is that I didn't ask for stuff in that simple of a form. When I asked, I asked what are the params. Then Shadow Knight would be like blah string, var. Then I go oh okay, simple enough time for fooling around with that command.

[SupermanJR]

-Ignorant people use their own ignorance as a shield, to avoid learning what they don't want to learn.

Clearly, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Living in India as a woman, and not knowing how to read because
One, you have Polo.
Two, The schools around you only teach to men.
That, cannot help your ignorance. there is no excuse for ignorance in the forums, but you have to DEAL with it.

Aren't you listening? I mean, am I wasting my time typing this stuff? I said that if I delete a thread then I need to PM the creator to explain why, so I wouldn't delete it. Does this not suggest that I do PM the creator to explain why? If I wanted to be lazy in an irresponsible manner then I'd just delete it and walk away.

If you did this, why is that so many people dislike you? Why do they complain of you deleting post? If you sent them a message, they shouldn't be complaining in the fashion they do it in.

I could do that, but I don't feel that effort is warranted on my part when they can't even be bothered to read the rules. If they want to post again in a non-rule-breaking fashion then I'll be happy to let the thread go undeleted. It's not like I'm shooting them in the heads, y'know, I'm just deleting their illegal threads.

What else do you do? Do you work for a server? IS it REALLY that hard to explain?

Sounds like you haven't read anything you've typed so far.

I think it's the other way around bud.. I see nothing wrong with being ignorant. Maybe I used the wrong word? How about stupid? Does that fit the situation better?

I don't see you teaching anything.

Look in the levels board bud.

As far as I can see it's not "fore bayed" (I'm assuming you mean forbidden).

Actually.. No. Fore bayed MEANS forbidden.. But No I didn't mean to say forbidden.

Ok, here we go.

Next time, stay out of it.
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What? Of course he's superior, you fool. He can run faster, jump higher, swim further. He's stronger, healthier and more intelligent. In what way could this four year old girl possibly be his equal?

Quiet easily. If this four year old was brought up the same way Jeff was, she could EASILY match Jeff. She has every potential to be like Jeff.
Thats kind-a what made the Slaves of the U.S free. People started realising that.. You're a little behind.

And I support Kai in his actions fully. So if you have a problem w/ him, you've got a problem with me

...... Don't scare us too much.

[Spark910]

No offense Kai, but you should think before saying something...

What? Of course he's superior, you fool. He can run faster,

''Opinion''

jump higher, swim further. He's stronger, healthier and more intelligent.

''Opinion''

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And if anyone had a brain, or knew how to MOD, they would have closed this ages ago... And considering Falcor isn't on and Kaimetsu has decided to carry on posting and arguing, ill report this to an Admin. As Kai of all the people, you should know what to do and not post and make things worse..

[Com013]

Making an "I hate Kaimetsu/his behaviour" thread will surely make him happy and nicer towards you...

[SupermanJR]

Originally posted by Com013
Making an "I hate Kaimetsu/his behaviour" thread will surely make him happy and nicer towards you...

I'm not looking for his frienship Com'. I don't think ANYBODY wants that..

[Com013]

Originally posted by SupermanJR


I'm not looking for his frienship Com'. I don't think ANYBODY wants that..

But I doubt it will even change anything when he's annoyed. Of course you can say what you dislike, but it might be more successful if it is said in a nice way.

[konidias]

*climbs into a space shuttle*

"Hey, where are you going?"

Oh me? I'm just headed for this topic, because it's so far off.

Closed.