total bullshit

Sir Kwang · #1 05-31-2002, 08:10 AM

I think this is total bullshit what people call copyrighted materials on graal, when something is copyrighted it doesn't mean like for example, using a guild called "Jedi" isn't evading a copyright, the old zelda images were evading a copyright (tiki came on enigma saying the guilds Jedi and Sith had to be deleted because of copyright) if making a guild called Jedi is evading a copyright, wouldn't like medicine commercials be doing that by comparing to other products? My point is, that these people are getting carried away with this *cough* TIKI.. total bull

manton · #2 05-31-2002, 08:14 AM

Commercials get permission. Which Graal does not have.

Python523 · #3 05-31-2002, 08:17 AM

If this arguement is more related to guilds, why is it in the playerworlds forum

Sir Kwang · #4 05-31-2002, 08:18 AM

since when was having (Jedi) after your name a copyright issue? It's not, it's total bullshit, like I said

Python523 · #5 05-31-2002, 08:19 AM

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Originally posted by Sir Kwang
since when was having (Jedi) after your name a copyright issue? It's not, it's total bullshit, like I said

no need to double post if you've already said the same thing

Sir Kwang · #6 05-31-2002, 08:19 AM

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Originally posted by Python523
If this arguement is more related to guilds, why is it in the playerworlds forum

it's not, im sick of that too "omg this should be in the wahtever forum " it's concerning how people come on playerworlds saying some small thing is a copyright issue

zell12 · #7 05-31-2002, 08:21 AM

Umm, this is PLAYERWORLD Related, since it has to do with PlayerWorlds, so

Sir Kwang · #8 05-31-2002, 08:32 AM

someone has to agree with me, it's the truth, these *****s get way to carried away with this ****

thesaiyan · #9 05-31-2002, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by Sir Kwang
someone has to agree with me, it's the truth, these *****s get way to carried away with this ****

I agree with you on the " this should be whereever forum". But on the Jedi thing, I don't. If anyone from LucasArts happen to hear that an online game is using names and or images that are copyrighted by their company. Lawsuit. Do you really want the game that you like to play be shut down just because of a name or image? Just simply don't do it. To openly have a guild or image using someone else's things is illegal.

Sir Kwang · #10 05-31-2002, 08:45 AM

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Originally posted by thesaiyan

I agree with you on the " this should be whereever forum". But on the Jedi thing, I don't. If anyone from LucasArts happen to hear that an online game is using names and or images that are copyrighted by their company. Lawsuit. Do you really want the game that you like to play be shut down just because of a name or image? Just simply don't do it. To openly have a guild or image using someone else's things is illegal.

having a guild name like that is just the same as having a fake tag, they couldn't care less if it's "official" on graal, it would be a copyright issue if this was a movie, it's not, so there's no problem

Thak2 · #11 05-31-2002, 08:50 AM

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Originally posted by Sir Kwang

having a guild name like that is just the same as having a fake tag, they couldn't care less if it's "official" on graal, it would be a copyright issue if this was a movie, it's not, so there's no problem

I agree, every popular multiplayer online game usually has guilds, and a lot of those are named after copyrighted things.

No company would ever sue a game, for a name the player is using. It's ridiculus. Then we would have to disallow anyone who uses a name from anything. That includes the ever popular DragonBall names, and Final Fantasy names, etc.

Logo · #12 05-31-2002, 08:58 AM

I think 'Tiki is an idiot!

and since when does that kid have control over local guilds?

ZanderX · #13 05-31-2002, 09:38 AM

I think that images and guilds are two completely separate things.

albus777 · #14 05-31-2002, 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by Logo
I think 'Tiki is an idiot!

and since when does that kid have control over local guilds?

For a while I think.

Kaimetsu · #15 05-31-2002, 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by Sir Kwang
since when was having (Jedi) after your name a copyright issue? It's not, it's total bulls***, like I said

Yeah, you actually have no idea what you're talking about.

van_01 · #16 05-31-2002, 09:59 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Yeah, you actually have no idea what you're talking about.

LOL, Kaimetsu is right.
You have no idea what your talking about!

Xbob42 · #17 05-31-2002, 10:29 AM

I think Stefan said he didn't want to see anymore Star War guilds.
King Arthur went on N-Pulse and massed something like that regarding all the Star Wars stuff.

~Prince Dark

iniquitus · #18 05-31-2002, 10:55 AM

hmmm...

*looks into this*

Urizen :o

Pinktaco · #19 05-31-2002, 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by van_01

LOL, Kaimetsu is right.
You have no idea what your talking about!

Niether do you, I agree on the subject that the word 'Jedi' does is not copyrighted, I mean I doubt people can just copyright a word. It's like me copyrighting Pinktaco, I just cant do that and save it or just me.

Kaimetsu · #20 05-31-2002, 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by Pinktaco

Niether do you, I agree on the subject that the word 'Jedi' does is not copyrighted, I mean I doubt people can just copyright a word. It's like me copyrighting Pinktaco, I just cant do that and save it or just me.

Oh? And from what experience are you drawing this knowledge?

iniquitus · #21 05-31-2002, 11:35 AM

You can Copyright a name. Bands do it all the time (Metalica ring a bell?) Another thing you can do is register a name as a Trademark, making it illeagle for anyone else to use that name in Any situation without explicit writen permssion from the owner of the name, so yes, names, especialy "Jedi" are technicaily illeagle for Graal to use because of international copyright laws; I'm not sure weather or not we will enforce it with Guild names since the players create the guilds, not Graal Online though.

Urizen

Torankusu · #22 05-31-2002, 11:47 AM

I.E.

Jedi and Sith are trademark of StarWars (TM SYMBOL)

azuretek23 · #23 05-31-2002, 12:32 PM

really I did not know that so yoda is TM too? I thought just the name Star Wars was trade marked....

but I guess you guys are lawyers....

iniquitus · #24 05-31-2002, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by azuretek23
really I did not know that so yoda is TM too? I thought just the name Star Wars was trade marked....

but I guess you guys are lawyers....

1.) Please stop making posts when you are not educated on the topic.

2.) Copyright info from : http://www.starwars.com/site/copyright.html

Pay close attention to:

2. Ownership.

This site is owned and operated by Lucasfilm Ltd. The contents of this Web site are © Lucasfilm Ltd. & trademark. All rights reserved. STAR WARS®, STARWARS.COM®, THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK®, RETURN OF THE JEDI®, STAR WARS: EPISODE I-THE PHANTOM MENACE®, STAR WARS: EPISODE II-ATTACK OF THE CLONES®, HOLONET NEWS and THX® and all logos, characters, artwork, stories, information, names, and other elements associated thereto are the sole and exclusive property of Lucasfilm Ltd. Any use of any of the materials on this site other than for private, non-commercial viewing purposes is strictly prohibited.

Urizen

GraalBR · #25 05-31-2002, 04:40 PM

Next ill be getting told to change my Graal name as it is the name of one of my Fav bands.

Psyker · #26 05-31-2002, 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by iniquitus

1.) Please stop making posts when you are not educated on the topic.

2.) Copyright info from : http://www.starwars.com/site/copyright.html

Pay close attention to:

2. Ownership.

This site is owned and operated by Lucasfilm Ltd. The contents of this Web site are © Lucasfilm Ltd. & trademark. All rights reserved. STAR WARS®, STARWARS.COM®, THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK®, RETURN OF THE JEDI®, STAR WARS: EPISODE I-THE PHANTOM MENACE®, STAR WARS: EPISODE II-ATTACK OF THE CLONES®, HOLONET NEWS and THX® and all logos, characters, artwork, stories, information, names, and other elements associated thereto are the sole and exclusive property of Lucasfilm Ltd. Any use of any of the materials on this site other than for private, non-commercial viewing purposes is strictly prohibited.

Urizen

and urizen wins!

i don't even bother with these kind of complaints. :o

Yushiwa · #27 05-31-2002, 10:48 PM

If you look on something Star Wars that is about Jedi's, you will see after the Jedi word on some toy box or something, a little TM in the circle after it. You can't have it.

iniquitus · #28 05-31-2002, 11:39 PM

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Originally posted by Psyker

and urizen wins!

i don't even bother with these kind of complaints. :o

I think I get some sick thrill out of being right

Urizen

zell12 · #29 05-31-2002, 11:55 PM

You can use them I think, but you have to put in something saying that the names have nothign to do with the characters of Starwars, or related... not sure

iniquitus · #30 06-01-2002, 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
You can use them I think, but you have to put in something saying that the names have nothign to do with the characters of Starwars, or related... not sure

No, you need writen permission to use them, and ONCE you have the permission they will probably ask you to put a disclaimer where you use them. :o

Urizen

Xerphier Dintch · #31 06-01-2002, 01:17 AM

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Originally posted by manton
Commercials get permission. Which Graal does not have.

Commercials don't get permission. As if 'Tylenol' is letting 'Aleve' say that they're product is 10 times better then tylenol's.

AlkarenHyralt · #32 06-01-2002, 01:18 AM

Urizen has settled this. No need to keep it open.