Babylon's Future

lordhelmut · #1 04-08-2002, 02:18 AM

Well boys and girlies, I have gone mad.

Here is what happened. When i gave away ownership of babylon i maintained an agreement that I would still keep my RC with everything. Last night i got on to upload some new stuff (people have complained nothing new was added since i left) and low and behold...My FTP for levels was gone along with most of my rights.

When I confronted Zen about this, he said I couldnt be trusted and thats why. about a week before this coolnick (another high staff, cortez a levels admin) deleted a lot of stuff off FTP. After a lot of begging i finally gave the levels pack to Zen last night to earn his trust. Then I find that all it earned me was my stuff taken away.

After him calling me an a-hole I snapped. Thats where we stand now. I really dont care. I just want babylon dead. It was my creation and shall stay my creation no matter who tries to **** me over from it.

I think I am going to give out the entire levels pack including the kuro script, bird script, tailor script, playerhouse bank script, mini boss script, etc. Be looking for all this stuff soon to come because it will. Babylon never was very popular and when zen became owner it died. It has like a max of 4 people on it now. It also has like an exact copy of the Dustari place.

Goodbye my fellow Graalians

HAHA

mhermher · #2 04-08-2002, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lordhelmut
Well boys and girlies, I have gone mad. Here is what happened. When i gave away ownership of babylon i maintained an agreement that I would still keep my RC with everything. Last night i got on to upload some new stuff (people have complained nothing new was added since i left) and low and behold...My FTP for levels was gone along with most of my rights.

When I confronted Zen about this, he said I couldnt be trusted and thats why. about a week before this coolnick (another high staff, cortez a levels admin) deleted a lot of stuff off FTP. After a lot of begging i finally gave the levels pack to Zen last night to earn his trust. Then I find that all it earned me was my stuff taken away.

After him calling me an a-hole I snapped. Thats where we stand now. I really dont care. I just want babylon dead. It was my creation and shall stay my creation no matter who tries to **** me over from it.

I think I am going to give out the entire levels pack including the kuro script, bird script, tailor script, playerhouse bank script, mini boss script, etc. Be looking for all this stuff soon to come because it will. Babylon never was very popular and when zen became owner it died. It has like a max of 4 people on it now. It also has like an exact copy of the Dustari place.

Goodbye my fellow Graalians HAHA

go you !

dont give my scripts away, and yah babylon died when zen goti t! you sould giev it to me

Evildred144 · #3 04-08-2002, 03:05 AM

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Neonight · #4 04-08-2002, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lordhelmut
Well boys and girlies, I have gone mad. Here is what happened. When i gave away ownership of babylon i maintained an agreement that I would still keep my RC with everything. Last night i got on to upload some new stuff (people have complained nothing new was added since i left) and low and behold...My FTP for levels was gone along with most of my rights.

When I confronted Zen about this, he said I couldnt be trusted and thats why. about a week before this coolnick (another high staff, cortez a levels admin) deleted a lot of stuff off FTP. After a lot of begging i finally gave the levels pack to Zen last night to earn his trust. Then I find that all it earned me was my stuff taken away.

After him calling me an a-hole I snapped. Thats where we stand now. I really dont care. I just want babylon dead. It was my creation and shall stay my creation no matter who tries to **** me over from it.

I think I am going to give out the entire levels pack including the kuro script, bird script, tailor script, playerhouse bank script, mini boss script, etc. Be looking for all this stuff soon to come because it will. Babylon never was very popular and when zen became owner it died. It has like a max of 4 people on it now. It also has like an exact copy of the Dustari place.

Goodbye my fellow Graalians HAHA

If you were owner, you should just stay inactive. Let the people ***** at you. It's better than giving away the server to some *****. Only resign when you are forced to.

Napier_GMX · #5 04-08-2002, 03:26 AM

The true story is he jailed like everyone one Babylon and banned Zen... He then got people to help him out and ban LH

IonFlux2001 · #6 04-08-2002, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lordhelmut
Well boys and girlies, I have gone mad. Here is what happened. When i gave away ownership of babylon i maintained an agreement that I would still keep my RC with everything. Last night i got on to upload some new stuff (people have complained nothing new was added since i left) and low and behold...My FTP for levels was gone along with most of my rights.

When I confronted Zen about this, he said I couldnt be trusted and thats why. about a week before this coolnick (another high staff, cortez a levels admin) deleted a lot of stuff off FTP. After a lot of begging i finally gave the levels pack to Zen last night to earn his trust. Then I find that all it earned me was my stuff taken away.

After him calling me an a-hole I snapped. Thats where we stand now. I really dont care. I just want babylon dead. It was my creation and shall stay my creation no matter who tries to **** me over from it.

I think I am going to give out the entire levels pack including the kuro script, bird script, tailor script, playerhouse bank script, mini boss script, etc. Be looking for all this stuff soon to come because it will. Babylon never was very popular and when zen became owner it died. It has like a max of 4 people on it now. It also has like an exact copy of the Dustari place.

Goodbye my fellow Graalians HAHA

I have really lost all respect for you. if you didnt want to give it away you shouldnt have. You did and now it isnt yours. quit *****ing. what you did wasnt cool at all really ***. and gastly you wont ever be hired back =/.

lordhelmut · #7 04-08-2002, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Napier_GMX
The true story is he jailed like everyone one Babylon and banned Zen... He then got people to help him out and ban LH

I AM BABYLON. zen broke the little agreement he had with me and I ****ed him over for it.

aller05 · #8 04-08-2002, 03:57 AM

ummmmm.... guys? babylon sucks so why are we fighting over it?

ZeroFXSM · #9 04-08-2002, 04:14 AM

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Originally posted by aller05
ummmmm.... guys? babylon sucks so why are we fighting over it?

Because maybe lordhelmut owns it? Lord Helmut is babylon. You think babylon sucks? Well maybe you should try making something like it before you open your mouth and say non-sense bullshit.

:grrr:

zrpgp2p · #10 04-08-2002, 04:17 AM

Some of you forget it was LH who created Babylon, he has the right to do what he wants.

IonFlux2001 · #11 04-08-2002, 04:38 AM

No he created yes but has the right to do what ever no. He gave it up with a agreement or not so it isnt his anymore.

Kamaeru · #12 04-08-2002, 04:44 AM

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Originally posted by IonFlux2001
No he created yes but has the right to do what ever no. He gave it up with a agreement or not so it isnt his anymore.

hey you should all stfu, i mean, man worked hard for his server and trusted it to someone, to take a brake and made an agreement, so he could sometimes come back and see what has happened to his server, and then the guy he trusted backstabbed him, something similar happened to me some time ago so i know what it feels like, and you know what i think? backstabbers should be hanged!!

Psyker · #13 04-08-2002, 04:50 AM

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Originally posted by Kamaeru
and you know what i think? backstabbers should be hanged!!

then you should be hanged for backstabbing Cha Cha or whatever by asking me to put Dino Valley back up.

Napier_GMX · #14 04-08-2002, 04:52 AM

Alright I say again,

Lord Helmut sent everyone on the server to jail and IP banned Zen... just for fun

lordhelmut · #15 04-08-2002, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Napier_GMX
Alright I say again,

Lord Helmut sent everyone on the server to jail and IP banned Zen... just for fun

funny thing is, i didnt have levels FTP which is required to IP ban since the IP ban txt file is in there so how exactly did I IP Ban him?

Also, hes the one that got on and banned me so how did he do that if he was banned?

Napier_GMX · #16 04-08-2002, 05:32 AM

He got unbanned by someone then banned you or somehting like that I dont remember it completely

xanatos2003 · #17 04-08-2002, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lordhelmut
Well boys and girlies, I have gone mad. Here is what happened. When i gave away ownership of babylon i maintained an agreement that I would still keep my RC with everything. Last night i got on to upload some new stuff (people have complained nothing new was added since i left) and low and behold...My FTP for levels was gone along with most of my rights.

When I confronted Zen about this, he said I couldnt be trusted and thats why. about a week before this coolnick (another high staff, cortez a levels admin) deleted a lot of stuff off FTP. After a lot of begging i finally gave the levels pack to Zen last night to earn his trust. Then I find that all it earned me was my stuff taken away.

After him calling me an a-hole I snapped. Thats where we stand now. I really dont care. I just want babylon dead. It was my creation and shall stay my creation no matter who tries to **** me over from it.

I think I am going to give out the entire levels pack including the kuro script, bird script, tailor script, playerhouse bank script, mini boss script, etc. Be looking for all this stuff soon to come because it will. Babylon never was very popular and when zen became owner it died. It has like a max of 4 people on it now. It also has like an exact copy of the Dustari place.

Goodbye my fellow Graalians HAHA

No matter who the owner is you still own the levels. like on old bravo, Rocoondog still owns the levels. e-mail Stefan telling him you want your world taken off the list

xanatos2003 · #18 04-08-2002, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IonFlux2001
No he created yes but has the right to do what ever no. He gave it up with a agreement or not so it isnt his anymore.

Yes he can.

xanatos2003 · #19 04-08-2002, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kamaeru

hey you should all stfu, i mean, man worked hard for his server and trusted it to someone, to take a brake and made an agreement, so he could sometimes come back and see what has happened to his server, and then the guy he trusted backstabbed him, something similar happened to me some time ago so i know what it feels like, and you know what i think? backstabbers should be hanged!!

About time somone knows what they are talking about!!!!!!!! Thank you

Kamaeru · #20 04-08-2002, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Psyker

then you should be hanged for backstabbing Cha Cha or whatever by asking me to put Dino Valley back up.

Cha Cha never did a thing to Dino Valley... Aramech did the whole deal... they just screwed up by quitting one after another...

[edit] Cha Cha quit, remember? [/edit]

Saga2001 · #21 04-08-2002, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lordhelmut
Well boys and girlies, I have gone mad. Here is what happened. When i gave away ownership of babylon i maintained an agreement that I would still keep my RC with everything. Last night i got on to upload some new stuff (people have complained nothing new was added since i left) and low and behold...My FTP for levels was gone along with most of my rights.

When I confronted Zen about this, he said I couldnt be trusted and thats why. about a week before this coolnick (another high staff, cortez a levels admin) deleted a lot of stuff off FTP. After a lot of begging i finally gave the levels pack to Zen last night to earn his trust. Then I find that all it earned me was my stuff taken away.

After him calling me an a-hole I snapped. Thats where we stand now. I really dont care. I just want babylon dead. It was my creation and shall stay my creation no matter who tries to **** me over from it.

I think I am going to give out the entire levels pack including the kuro script, bird script, tailor script, playerhouse bank script, mini boss script, etc. Be looking for all this stuff soon to come because it will. Babylon never was very popular and when zen became owner it died. It has like a max of 4 people on it now. It also has like an exact copy of the Dustari place.

Goodbye my fellow Graalians HAHA

<3

mhermher · #22 04-08-2002, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IonFlux2001

I have really lost all respect for you. if you didnt want to give it away you shouldnt have. You did and now it isnt yours. quit *****ing. what you did wasnt cool at all really ***. and gastly you wont ever be hired back =/.

i dont want to... if i take a graal job it will most likley be on... umm... g2k1 or oasis or any GOOD server without any crappy staff like you adn zen...

hottie404 · #23 04-08-2002, 08:41 PM

LordHelmut you should get babylon taken down adn start a new server project with staff you trust. Yes I understand you quit graal but you have good skillz that people dont want to go to waste. I hope you take my idea. thx

Joker

prozacboy666 · #24 04-08-2002, 09:56 PM

OK well zen leaves babylon and then you give it to him there is where you went wrong. He leaves (hating you) and come back as the owner.

IonFlux2001 · #25 04-09-2002, 03:14 AM

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Originally posted by xanatos2003

Yes he can.

U dumb ass no. it even says on this site once levels are on graal they are property of graalonline. coon gave thoes levels to Yakuna and Brandon took them off Bravo at his will.

IonFlux2001 · #26 04-09-2002, 03:16 AM

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Originally posted by mhermher

i dont want to... if i take a graal job it will most likley be on... umm... g2k1 or oasis or any GOOD server without any crappy staff like you adn zen...

1. learn how to spell
2. You asked for your ****ing job back.

Neglegence2002 · #27 04-09-2002, 03:45 AM

Lord Helmut owns you all, and he should take down the damn server. Helmut e-mail Stefan and tell him to take it down.

Psyker · #28 04-09-2002, 03:48 AM

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Originally posted by Neglegence2002
Lord Helmut owns you all, and he should take down the damn server. Helmut e-mail Stefan and tell him to take it down.

People like you are the ones who ruin playerworlds.

Neglegence2002 · #29 04-09-2002, 04:01 AM

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Originally posted by Psyker

People like you are the ones who ruin playerworlds.

Yep, i ruined all of them. Thanks Psyker.

Psyker · #30 04-09-2002, 04:04 AM

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Originally posted by Neglegence2002

Yep, i ruined all of them. Thanks Psyker.

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lordhelmut · #31 04-09-2002, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hottie404
LordHelmut you should get babylon taken down adn start a new server project with staff you trust. Yes I understand you quit graal but you have good skillz that people dont want to go to waste. I hope you take my idea. thx

Joker

I may work on old classic, and im helping on Krynn and some other places but that PlayerWorld took me a year. I am not doing another one, ever. I wanted to work on my game but I hate Zen now and he was the only one who would help who was really really good at gfx =/

Neglegence2002 · #32 04-09-2002, 04:05 AM

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Originally posted by Psyker

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Oh your so kool...

Milkdude99 · #33 04-09-2002, 05:04 AM

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Originally posted by Neglegence2002
Lord Helmut owns you all, and he should take down the damn server. Helmut e-mail Stefan and tell him to take it down.

How is it that the main point is escaping most of you? He gave up the rights to the server , good bad or indifferent the result is the same , he does not own it any longer and as I saw the agreement was "only that he had RC and FTP" which did not include the rights back as Owner now did it? BUT I am by no means saying what was done to LH was right by any means, but his actions out of anger (which I am sure we all would have been)
does not justify what he did afterward , in short 2 wrongs will never make a right.If he was wronged as I suspect he was indeed ,what he should have done was resolve it with the PW Admin , after all is that not what they are here for? Then the whole thing would not have blown up and been something to comment on here...Geo gave up the rights to Npulse with no agreement he just wanted out and did stay away for some time, but he did come back and ask ummm or should I say demanded it back , well as you all can see I refused that request not to be mean or nasty to the Founder of Npulse for I have a great respect for what he did there but for the very reason that I was afraid he would indeed abandon Npulse once again for personal reasons as he did before and my interest is to keep alive what he Started and no Npulse is nothing like it was when he had it and never will be for each one of us has his own taste and ideas . this neither make I or Geo wrong in what we have done but only that we are not the same, so you Owners think long and hard before you give up what you may have created for in the end if you give it away , it may be yours in the spirit and mind of those who started with you but it will belong to someone else and may and will change to something of their creation.

Psyker · #34 04-09-2002, 05:20 AM

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Originally posted by Neglegence2002

Oh your so kool...

Oh yeah, you and your 'higher than thou' attitude and DBZ picture in your signature must make you so cool!

WHIPENIE4 · #35 04-09-2002, 06:07 AM

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Originally posted by Napier_GMX
He got unbanned by someone then banned you or somehting like that I dont remember it completely

(X-Mann)
Do you know how stupid you sound. Lord Helmut IP Banned him, yet he had lvl 2 RC without FTP. So basically, your point is Helmut IP banned him without the rights, please, please do explain.

IonFlux2001 · #36 04-09-2002, 06:16 AM

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
How is it that the main point is escaping most of you? He gave up the rights to the server , good bad or indifferent the result is the same , he does not own it any longer and as I saw the agreement was "only that he had RC and FTP" which did not include the rights back as Owner now did it? BUT I am by no means saying what was done to LH was right by any means, but his actions out of anger (which I am sure we all would have been)
does not justify what he did afterward , in short 2 wrongs will never make a right.If he was wronged as I suspect he was indeed ,what he should have done was resolve it with the PW Admin , after all is that not what they are here for? Then the whole thing would not have blown up and been something to comment on here...Geo gave up the rights to Npulse with no agreement he just wanted out and did stay away for some time, but he did come back and ask ummm or should I say demanded it back , well as you all can see I refused that request not to be mean or nasty to the Founder of Npulse for I have a great respect for what he did there but for the very reason that I was afraid he would indeed abandon Npulse once again for personal reasons as he did before and my interest is to keep alive what he Started and no Npulse is nothing like it was when he had it and never will be for each one of us has his own taste and ideas . this neither make I or Geo wrong in what we have done but only that we are not the same, so you Owners think long and hard before you give up what you may have created for in the end if you give it away , it may be yours in the spirit and mind of those who started with you but it will belong to someone else and may and will change to something of their creation.

I agree

Neonight · #37 04-09-2002, 06:19 AM

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Originally posted by lordhelmut

funny thing is, i didnt have levels FTP which is required to IP ban since the IP ban txt file is in there so how exactly did I IP Ban him?

Also, hes the one that got on and banned me so how did he do that if he was banned?

IP ban is in the logs folder.

Well it is for Providence anyway.. might not be for Babylon because it's a free server.

lordhelmut · #38 04-09-2002, 06:21 AM

IP ban txt is in levels folder and i did not have access to levels folder

Neonight · #39 04-09-2002, 06:25 AM

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Originally posted by lordhelmut
IP ban txt is in levels folder and i did not have access to levels folder

What was your "agreement?"
I never saw where it said...?

MetallicKorin · #40 04-09-2002, 07:58 AM

That's me. Every playerworld I liked got screwed up the wazoo. Look at Mithica. Now look at Babylon. Crikey! Someone give me a tissue.