Suggestions

[xAndrewx]

Somebody in another thread mentioned what you would like changing on Era.

Let the staff know, post your suggestion in this thread.

[Kohola_KinG]

Gang changes. Gangs should be eras 1 priority but they aren't.

Strict rules that the ETA must host the events consistently... Iron man, Spar tournament, 2v2 spar tournament etc.

That would be a good start at least.

[papajchris]

alfonso for manager!

[Tim_Rocks]

Koho, based on my experience with gangs, it's a full time job pleasing them. You have to push new content every other day. At a minimum you need anexperienced scripter who can also LAT. Then you have to hope they're not going to abuse/make gangs worse/spawn/unbiased decisions, etc. You'll need at least two of me to accomplish this feat.

Aside from that, I don't disagree with you. I think we should re-enable the Event Bot Sales made.

[Kohola_KinG]

Apparently freedom of speech on a "forum" which by the way is for discussion and giving your opinion but it seems like a dictatorship has over ruled it.

Heres a straight up change. New gang content. Released on a weekly basis.

I'll be watching for it, I'll keep people updated on this thread with those changes. Good luck

[Tim_Rocks]

Who is going to make this content? You, Koho? You don't need an RC to make content for Era.

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

Who is going to make this content? You, Koho? You don't need an RC to make content for Era.

Good question. They wont hire anybody to do the job, why should they do it offline and let other people claim it? You would need to be an idiot to lower yourself to do that.

I shouldn't have to make shi t without an RC. Developers are hired to develop. Why cant they do it? They work for the server, should they not be maintaining it and updating it? confused.com

[Tim_Rocks]

You must be drinking some good Kool Aid man. When I was first hired on in 2008 I had to do all my work offline and submit it for review. What makes you think you're above that? We don't hand out rights like candy.

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

You must be drinking some good Kool Aid man. When I was first hired on in 2008 I had to do all my work offline and submit it for review. What makes you think you're above that? We don't hand out rights like candy.

A game people pay to play shouldn't have to do work offline and submit it for other people to claim. "we" you said you aren't staff on era anymore, so you are or aren't?

This game is a disgrace people pay to play it, but have rookies like yourself running it. I didn't say i was above anyone, you're just putting words into my mouth.

Also, rights are handed out like candy to asslickers. Been around a long time, i know how the system works.

[Kohola_KinG]

Also i give it a few hours before another staff/developer is jumping onto the band wagon. Typical.. Just a vicious circle or egoistic turds running this server.

Politics is all they like to play.

[Tim_Rocks]

If I wanted my job back I'd have it. You have to earn a position, it will not be handed to you.

[Kohola_KinG]

I've did more than enough. I'm done, just like you're done. So we both can stfu please?

Let's watch this wonderful server pump out all the new content.

[BlueMelon]

Graal is a childhood game and not something people should take very seriously anymore in my opinion. I've heard the same shpeal over the past 3+ years, if anything is going to change it's not going to be now tbh. I also don't forsee any major player count jumps as time goes on either.

I hate being a negative nelly, but if I didn't get any enjoyment from graal, I wouldn't play.

Now, back to topic? idk lel

[Kohola_KinG]

Well you are right, nothing will change. Exactly why i wanted GA badly because i was willing to put everything into it. I seen myself as the last chance at getting gangs sorted once and all.

However, not the case and i truly dont care. Let them play the politic game but the only one effected here is era. Soon enough they wont have RC and rights, they wont have a position to boost about.

Graal PC will die, maybe not now but it has no future in this system.

Guys willing to commit and learn are being pushed away and the guys who already know how are not doing anything. Vicious circle.

[Tim_Rocks]

Blue is right. The fire rises.

[BlueMelon]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

Well you are right, nothing will change. Exactly why i wanted GA badly because i was willing to put everything into it. I seen myself as the last chance at getting gangs sorted once and all.

Not saying you wouldn't have done a good job, but nothing would be game changing. Era's been the same for years and it's not going to change. The same things have been said forever ago, nothing I am reading really surprises me. The only player jump rise Era gets (lasts tops 1 week) is when there is a new manager or some shiz.

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

Graal PC will die, maybe not now but it has no future in this system.

I'm sure you can find this exact post aged 5+ years ago by a ton of players, nothing new is being said. We all know this

[Tim_Rocks]

When we finally released the new gmap the server did go back into the hundreds player count wise. Sadly this project took about 4 months to compete. That's a lot of work to have done every other week to keep that player count consistent.

[Eclipse]

we need a gang admin, all you noobs in charge do something

[Tim_Rocks]

Does simply having a gang admin solve the problem?

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

Does simply having a gang admin solve the problem?

It would be a start. You as an admin failed to address it. You as a manager failed to address it and make it a high priority. Instead you put all your time and efforts into a useless mall and a lending system that doesn't even get used anymore. Also don't hit me with the simulation raid. 30 minutes of that makes my eyes bleed.

You have no reason to be in this discussion when you're partly to blame for the downfall. You were Co-Manager and failed to get on and address any issues. You talk a good game on the forums but these are only words, why don't you actually do something about it? If you wont then kindly shut the f up.

[Godzilla]

suggestion; merge pc era and iera together already

[Logababy]

Originally Posted by Godzilla

suggestion; merge pc era and iera together already

I'm all for it, however would this even be plausible?
iEra is obviously the more popular game, doing very well at the moment, how would we go about the merging?

We can't expect the thousands of iEra players to cope with their game changing to Era PC with the much more smaller player count. It just wouldn't happen that way.

Also, what's the difference between just playing iEra on Facebook from what it's going to be like after the merge? No changes will be made in gameplay, all that will have changed is the staff team, those who are willing to go over to iEra which not all will be.

I don't know man, it sounds like a great idea but for us, the minority, I doubt it would end well.
We enjoy PC Era for the sparring, businesses, events, gangs, but most of all, the community itself.

PC players don't play iEra for their own reasons, which are all understandable, so I just don't know if there's any point merging when it's already all there for anyone who wants to play it.

Don't get me wrong, I hope one day we merge and PC players will be satisfied however I'm not sure if it's the best thing to do, for Graal itself.

I really do hope, because the PC players after all these years, do deserve some kind of salvation for the thousands of hours put in to their beloved game.

Who am I though? That's just my opinion, please let me know yours!

[gravator]

When i first played era, there was a quest in the mines to get a special HP potion that boosted your max health from 10 to i think 15? Perhaps new quests could be added with minor permanent rewards at the end? A permanent security vest that acts as extra HP, maybe something to boost your speed a little, or an average gun that is not too strong but uses common ammo, something that would encourage new or casual players to stick around longer.

[shrimps]

I think a gang admin would help somewhat, even if they don't make changes all the time, just having an active staff member host and promote raiding from various ways. You pretty much have to baby people into raiding now.
Swift did a lot of those random gang events/activities and there was a lot of people raiding.

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by gravator

When i first played era, there was a quest in the mines to get a special HP potion that boosted your max health from 10 to i think 15? Perhaps new quests could be added with minor permanent rewards at the end? A permanent security vest that acts as extra HP, maybe something to boost your speed a little, or an average gun that is not too strong but uses common ammo, something that would encourage new or casual players to stick around longer.

A few dozens of hours of development (coding, levels, ultimately effects/items that need images/ganis/sounds) for a few minutes (even at best the Mine Quest took you 15 minutes if you didn't have a guide) of game-play just doesn't make sense in the end.

There is no winning formula on a sandbox platform like this. We just have to hope for dedicated players we can trust to stroll along and be talented enough to produce consistent content; and then we have to hope the noobs playing the game actually participate.

Gangs are the same as they were when there was 120 players and 30k points per guild. Having some retard on a Gang Admin tag doesn't make that happen, the system was created for; and is designed to handle that type of participation. The players just don't want to participate and it's been this way for years, I've posted a half-dozen threads saying the same thing: We as a lineage of developers have held up our end of the bargain creating the content requested for the better part of a decade... but the key element to all this content is that the players utilize it.

Honestly though; at this point those first people I described (Staff) won't bother spending their time to create this content because the players neglect or trash on it (see koho's above post regarding Tim) . And this results in a lose-lose situation.

[Godzilla]

Originally Posted by Logababy

I'm all for it, however would this even be plausible?
iEra is obviously the more popular game, doing very well at the moment, how would we go about the merging?

We can't expect the thousands of iEra players to cope with their game changing to Era PC with the much more smaller player count. It just wouldn't happen that way.

Also, what's the difference between just playing iEra on Facebook from what it's going to be like after the merge? No changes will be made in gameplay, all that will have changed is the staff team, those who are willing to go over to iEra which not all will be.

I don't know man, it sounds like a great idea but for us, the minority, I doubt it would end well.
We enjoy PC Era for the sparring, businesses, events, gangs, but most of all, the community itself.

PC players don't play iEra for their own reasons, which are all understandable, so I just don't know if there's any point merging when it's already all there for anyone who wants to play it.

Don't get me wrong, I hope one day we merge and PC players will be satisfied however I'm not sure if it's the best thing to do, for Graal itself.

I really do hope, because the PC players after all these years, do deserve some kind of salvation for the thousands of hours put in to their beloved game.

Who am I though? That's just my opinion, please let me know yours!

iEra > PC Era

[paintballdude956]

From what I understand (Andy could comment on this a lot more than I), iEra is coded quite a bit differently. I know for a fact it runs higher than 20 FPS, which is already a huge difference both for development and player experience. For instance, this allows a huge diversity in weapon statistics, since stats freeze, sleep, etc are not limited to .05 of a second increments (1 divided by 20 FPS = .05 in case you didn't know where that limitation comes from).
And apart from guns, every script on PC Era relies on the fact that the game runs at 20 FPS. I don't know how easy it would be to port things over to iEra standards.

But apart from that, I've heard anecdotal accounts from iEra players that they like PC Era more. They prefer the raiding, the hitsystem, the walkspeed, etc. What's more, they like some of the more complicated systems we have. What stops a lot of them from getting hooked is the lack of players, obviously.

So I guess what I'm saying is that there is no easy solution and that they're almost entirely different games. One thing though: I would be tempted to play iEra if there were just a standalone client and I didn't have to play on a crummy web browser. That's probably the biggest beef I have with iEra

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by paintballdude956

What stops a lot of them from getting hooked is the lack of players, obviously.

So I guess what I'm saying is that there is no easy solution and that they're almost entirely different games. One thing though: I would be tempted to play iEra if there were just a standalone client and I didn't have to play on a crummy web browser. That's probably the biggest beef I have with iEra

This mentality is one of the biggest issues we have with PC Era as well.
They don't want to play because there's not enough players; but there isn't enough players because they don't want to play. Trollol.

I didn't mind playing iEra on my tablet but once they added the BAR and it basically became pay2win I immediately stopped playing.
If I could get online via the Graal client though I'd consider playing again just because it makes it much more accessible.

[shrimps]

Well I for one play for different aspects of the game, Businesses, economy, community, economic wealth? I don't think these things are on iEra. I'm pretty sure the movement system is different as well, as when I tried to play on it on my phone and facebook it felt clunky.

[Tim_Rocks]

Koho, you're wrong. I did everything I could and it worked for a while. Players get bored unless there's something new to have or do. In the past all a player wanted was bragging rights. Now everyone cares about their KD which results in endless running. Which isn't fun.

I think allowing players to connect to iEra servers would be a good start.

[Ceasar]

Originally Posted by Godzilla

suggestion; merge pc era and iera together already

i have been wanting this, iera is missing the party dungeon content, and era has better mining, mystery coin/ chest system. i would surely play iera more often if it was playable or merged with era on the pc client.

[shrimps]

Why not remove k/d or any show that someone is better and just have it based on word of mouth. That way if you're good you're good and everyone knows, if you suck you just suck.

[Logababy]

Originally Posted by shrimps

Why not remove k/d or any show that someone is better and just have it based on word of mouth. That way if you're good you're good and everyone knows, if you suck you just suck.

Yeah, I think it should only display kills, for at least some sort of recognition for your effort. People care about deaths way too much.

[Kohola_KinG]

Removing deaths and K/D from profiles is a positive move.
Removing the elo system is a positive move.

It encourages people to raid more, spar more and die more.

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by BlueMelon

Not saying you wouldn't have done a good job, but nothing would be game changing. Era's been the same for years and it's not going to change. The same things have been said forever ago, nothing I am reading really surprises me. The only player jump rise Era gets (lasts tops 1 week) is when there is a new manager or some shiz.




I'm sure you can find this exact post aged 5+ years ago by a ton of players, nothing new is being said. We all know this

Era has been the same way for years because the same system never changes. It's the same because nobody does nothing to change it.

We need active staff members who get involved with the players, host special events, kick start raids give them changes even if it's not a massive change even the little ones count.

You don't even realize how much a little change can have an impact on era. Nobody is asking for major development changes, they just want something to do. Give them a reason to raid, they haven't had a reason?? Still waiting for one.

No objectives to nothing, so what's the point of doing anything?

[MysticalDragon]

Originally Posted by paintballdude956

From what I understand (Andy could comment on this a lot more than I), iEra is coded quite a bit differently. I know for a fact it runs higher than 20 FPS, which is already a huge difference both for development and player experience. For instance, this allows a huge diversity in weapon statistics, since stats freeze, sleep, etc are not limited to .05 of a second increments (1 divided by 20 FPS = .05 in case you didn't know where that limitation comes from).
And apart from guns, every script on PC Era relies on the fact that the game runs at 20 FPS. I don't know how easy it would be to port things over to iEra

This isn't true? All the iphone servers are on the same maxed out FPS as the normal servers. However iEra is indeed scripted differently. Snk/Andy scripted a huge portion of not all of it from scratch. It's much more efficent than era pc. So it lags alot less, the only reason it does lag it maintains over 3000 players at times.

[paintballdude956]

Originally Posted by MysticalDragon

This isn't true? All the iphone servers are on the same maxed out FPS as the normal servers. However iEra is indeed scripted differently. Snk/Andy scripted a huge portion of not all of it from scratch. It's much more efficent than era pc. So it lags alot less, the only reason it does lag it maintains over 3000 players at times.

Ah, apologies, I was under the impression it ran at a higher frame rate. It's obviously an impressive feat that iEra lags as little as it does when it has thousands of players at a time. Though I do wonder how much of that has to do with the quality of the servers iEra uses compared to PC. I have no idea about that.

[Eclipse]

Originally Posted by shrimps

Why not remove k/d or any show that someone is better and just have it based on word of mouth. That way if you're good you're good and everyone knows, if you suck you just suck.

We should go back to the system before they started counting gang points, im not saying remove gang points but don't focus so much on the whole "P" menu.

i liked how the old party system building used to display all the information

[punkrules]

I agree with Eclipse. Why not give the old system one last chance? It's not like we have anything to lose.

1) Two gangs, lead by Souls vs Dusk/Corey (plenty of personal conflict and drama.)
2) Old gang bases.
3) Rank ups should be earned not handed out.
4) Access to MVP gang guns based on Rank, limited access as well.
5) Old party system returned, allow ANYONE to raid, gang member or not.

There's too much focus on control and order with our current system, it should be frustrating and chaotic. I miss being mauled by 8 random newbs with Uzis after defending a base against 10 gang members coming from all doors.

Also this random spawn thing is just awful.

[shrimps]

Yeah, it's just rush die rush die, there's no planning or anything. If you're defending you should get a chance to heal to continue defending the base. With this most deaths are from just random warp next to you with 0 hp and you die.