God Relics

[xAndrewx]

We all know relics from the gods are hard to get (Ogma's Hat, Leuc's Armor etc)

I never, see people wearing them. I think I'm the only one wearing the Ogma helmet, but that's probably because I don't have any other helmet.

Would it be better to make these relics have better statistics? Since they can't be traded it wouldn't hurt anything. It would probably make people level up their wisdom to obtain these items

[NicoX]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

We all know relics from the gods are hard to get (Ogma's Hat, Leuc's Armor etc)

I never, see people wearing them. I think I'm the only one wearing the Ogma helmet, but that's probably because I don't have any other helmet.

Would it be better to make these relics have better statistics? Since they can't be traded it wouldn't hurt anything. It would probably make people level up their wisdom to obtain these items

Will look at it tonight

[shrimps]

If I remember isn't the Ogmas helm with no image or supposed to not show?

[xAndrewx]

Sooooooooooooo I thought about it and Conqueror said an idea

So the relics are all crap, you can get better equipment from crafting.
Conqueror said it would be better if you got something based on your wisdom level, rather than grace. This would mean you would actually need to do something to get something good.

Here's an example....

Ogma
Level 5 - 5% resistant to Poison, -5% resistant to Magic
Level 10 - 10% resistant to Poison, -10% resistant to Magic
Level 15 - Attuned: Missiles
Level 20 - 15% resistant to Poison, -15% resistant to Magic
Level 25 - Attuned: Wounding
Level 30 - 25% resistant to Poison, -20% resistant to Poison
Level 35 - Ogma's Orc Helmet Relic (possibly a new slot for equipment, God Relic) OR Str+1 Dex+1 increase
Level 40 - Poison Fog Spell
Level 45 - Cause Smallpox
Level 50 - Bracers of Ogma OR Dex+1 Str+1 increase (removed when you leave god)


It would be cool for a new equipment type for God Relic imo

[Conqueror]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Sooooooooooooo I thought about it and Conqueror said an idea

So the relics are all crap, you can get better equipment from crafting.
Conqueror said it would be better if you got something based on your wisdom level, rather than grace. This would mean you would actually need to do something to get something good.

And we all know what they say about da conqs opinion!

[kia345]

Originally Posted by shrimps

If I remember isn't the Ogmas helm with no image or supposed to not show?

Ogma's helmet had an image not too long ago. I think Highlander made it.


And I will personally resubscribe and frequent GK again purely to complain if Leuc's armor gets an ugly on-character image. Not really.

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Would it be better to make these relics have better statistics? Since they can't be traded it wouldn't hurt anything

It would hurt the people trying to trade/sell if there were accessible alternatives. Which is a good thing in any online game. But to say that it won't hurt anything is dumb.

[Draenin]

Originally Posted by kia345

It would hurt the people trying to trade/sell if there were accessible alternatives. Which is a good thing in any online game. But to say that it won't hurt anything is dumb.

Brigid has a pretty b!tchin' shield, but I still used others that offered stats I needed at the time, like the Moon Shield. Nobody is saying that the stats need to be so beefed up that it puts all others to shame.

Andy's just suggesting that the stats on relics be more useful.

[shrimps]

Didn't Brigid also get awesome gloves as well?

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Draenin

Brigid has a pretty b!tchin' shield, but I still used others that offered stats I needed at the time, like the Moon Shield. Nobody is saying that the stats need to be so beefed up that it puts all others to shame.

Andy's just suggesting that the stats on relics be more useful.

They already are useful. What you're suggesting is exactly that. "It's a useful shield, but I wish it were so useful that I didn't need to use other ones".


When I used Brigid, I kept the shield and gloves full time (they're gr8 @ shrimps). When I used Leuc, I always used his mail (babby gale, also gr8). I don't know about Ogma's helm's stats, but the relics that I've had access to have been perfectly fine, despite other items (rightfully) trumping them. Unless a lot has changed regarding everyone's base stats and gear, the god relics are functional in their stats. Improving already useable items means making them better, and items like these that are untradeable means taking influence away from commonly traded items. It's not really a matter of debate, that's how things work. If people can get something that works for free, they won't need to purchase something that works. Which to me is a good thing anyway.

[Draenin]

Originally Posted by kia345

What you're suggesting is exactly that. "It's a useful shield, but I wish it were so useful that I didn't need to use other ones".

You're suggesting that. But thanks for trying to put words in my mouth.

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Here's an example....

Ogma
Level 5 - 5% resistant to Poison, -5% resistant to Magic
Level 10 - 10% resistant to Poison, -10% resistant to Magic
Level 15 - Attuned: Missiles
Level 20 - 15% resistant to Poison, -15% resistant to Magic
Level 25 - Attuned: Wounding
Level 30 - 25% resistant to Poison, -20% resistant to Poison
Level 35 - Ogma's Orc Helmet Relic (possibly a new slot for equipment, God Relic) OR Str+1 Dex+1 increase
Level 40 - Poison Fog Spell
Level 45 - Cause Smallpox
Level 50 - Bracers of Ogma OR Dex+1 Str+1 increase (removed when you leave god)


It would be cool for a new equipment type for God Relic imo

I like this idea, but perhaps, combine the two parts?

Simply, a god relic slot and you are granted the relic for w.e god when you join them (at this point, it grants no bonus, and obviously you lose older ones when you ditch gods). Then based on your levels, when you pray to your god the same way you would be granted the relic now, it will enhance your relic such as blessing a weapon. Each enhancement would upgrade it like level 5-30 in your list. And reaching maximum level would then give maybe an extra stat or attune on it.

Probably could reduce the natural God-granted resistances to make room for this, and balance it as well. And make it so simply praying to Bile once doesn't make you 50% better at PvP.

Then:
1. You don't need graphics and all this crap for each relic. Just a icon, like each god's colored crest could work fine.
2. You don't need to balance the relics compared to other items in existence for their respective slots (simply balanced with each other, 8 items, not very difficult).
3. You don't need to fix granting some of the broken relics/worry about each god having logical relics.
4. All the perks you said. Levels/working hard vs. lending grace items.

Whatever, idk.

[smokeraider]

Relics should be used against defending enemy gods, so you have that extra protection against your evil counterpart. rather then using normal stats, and some what rogue mentioned

[scriptless]

Originally Posted by smokeraider

Relics should be used against defending enemy gods, so you have that extra protection against your evil counterpart. rather then using normal stats, and some what rogue mentioned

I agree! I have a set of RoE's I used to get some relics on my brigid account. Took ALOT of grace to get some of them.. lol like 600/300