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Old 12-21-2012, 06:23 AM
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account sharing rules?
is account sharing illegal according to the graal tos?
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Old 12-21-2012, 06:42 AM
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Old 12-21-2012, 06:43 AM
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Duh.
where does it say so?
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Old 12-21-2012, 06:53 AM
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:02 AM
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It says it somewhere, and in banning options on RC there is an option for "Account Sharing", so I guess you shouldn't continue to let your mother play on your account.

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Old 12-21-2012, 08:17 AM
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Even if nobody can find it, a lot of people know quite a few accounts that have been banned for account sharing over the years. They got strict with it when P2P was introduced.
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Old 12-21-2012, 06:23 PM
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is account sharing illegal according to the graal tos?
Yes and I'm ****ing glad this isn't properly enforced.
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Old 12-21-2012, 06:29 PM
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Yes and I'm ****ing glad this isn't properly enforced.
i couldn't find it so i hoped someone would show me
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Old 12-21-2012, 06:54 PM
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:08 PM
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Not account sharing but just found this interesting article:

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/07...e-transfers-m/
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:37 PM
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For starters:
http://www.graalonline.com/docs/agreement
Section 4 states that company owners and administrators get to decide what is fair and acceptable use during play.
Presumably since account sharing gets people banned all the time, it isn't fair or acceptable use.
I think old p2p's had a second agreement they signed upon registration that outlined account sharing more explicitly, but I'm not gonna dig that far from my phone. Will edit if found later
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Old 12-22-2012, 12:27 AM
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I understand classic accouts not allowing account sharing as we don't pay for a membership anymore; but those who pay monthly for gold should be allowed to account share.
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I understand classic accouts not allowing account sharing as we don't pay for a membership anymore; but those who pay monthly for gold should be allowed to account share.
Doesn't that, by definition, make Linux cyberwhoevers lose money?

Incidentally, I looked through the user agreement, and it doesn't explicitly mention sharing at all either, so the best I can say is that EULA portion I mentioned earlier :/
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Old 12-22-2012, 09:31 AM
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Doesn't that, by definition, make Linux cyberwhoevers lose money?

Incidentally, I looked through the user agreement, and it doesn't explicitly mention sharing at all either, so the best I can say is that EULA portion I mentioned earlier :/
Neither ToS or EULA mention it directly however there are several red flags that pretty much could be applied in that type of situation. Either way people shouldn't share accounts whether you pay or not..
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Old 12-22-2012, 01:35 PM
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Not account sharing but just found this interesting article:

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/07...e-transfers-m/

According to this article it will it won't matter anymore anyway, soon enough.
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Old 12-22-2012, 03:42 PM
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but those who pay monthly for gold should be allowed to account share.
All big MMO games either disallow or highly recommend against account sharing, and you pay for those every month.

I know for sure I'd never want someone that's account sharing working on my servers.
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:53 PM
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All big MMO games either disallow or highly recommend against account sharing, and you pay for those every month.

I know for sure I'd never want someone that's account sharing working on my servers.
I agree, I wouldn't want an account sharer working on my server either. But for the general population, I see it like Xbox Live. I can't imagine telling someone they can't play on my account when borrowing my Xbox.
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I agree, I wouldn't want an account sharer working on my server either. But for the general population, I see it like Xbox Live. I can't imagine telling someone they can't play on my account when borrowing my Xbox.
The problem is one person buys an account and shares it with friends and then suddenly 3-4 other people don't need to buy an account because they'll just use their friends.
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The problem is one person buys an account and shares it with friends and then suddenly 3-4 other people don't need to buy an account because they'll just use their friends.
Exactly the problem and one of the reasons I assume that liftetime subscriptions were ended. I can't say that the current subscription policy is ideal but looking at it from a business standpoint I can understand why it wasn't working out.
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Exactly the problem and one of the reasons I assume that liftetime subscriptions were ended. I can't say that the current subscription policy is ideal but looking at it from a business standpoint I can understand why it wasn't working out.
Wasn't working out because players knew it was not worth throwing money at. Games like LoL are making millions and they're free to play.
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