Hola

[Shaun]

Originally posted by osrs

You're completely wrong sir.

Is one who scripts not a scripter?

Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Heartless as it may sound, those people don't really matter. They shouldn't be putting stuff online, because they invariably make horrible mistakes. If someone wants to learn to script then they can do so. If they don't then they shouldn't be producing scripts.

Do you expect that all the scripters that are here now will be here forever? New players are like children, they replace the old when they go away. With the lack of available resources to learn to script, I forsee less and less people volunteering so somebody else can make a profit.

Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Oh, you're talking about applying for jobs? Then they'd be pretty stupid to submit a script with serverside components when they don't have the opportunity to test it. There are plenty of impressive clientside concepts they could cook up.

Unless one has a big server, one shouldn't have a big staff, which would be needed to have people specialize. Because of this, general/all-around skills would be needed. It would be the Owner's stupidity to have a people that specialize while having a small staff. They would be pretty stupid for accepting somebody who couldn't do serverside components.

[draiden0]

-Do you expect that all the scripters that are here now will be here forever?-

I agree. Instead of just overhauling, there is actual script code that allows you to change graal version in the engine. All the server people have to do is give the server all the versions. You just select what version you want to run off. Simple solution to a complex problem?

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by Shaun
Do you expect that all the scripters that are here now will be here forever?

You're not listening. People can learn to script in this environment, I've seen it happen. If they fail to do so then it's merely because they don't possess the skill and/or the motivation.

With the lack of available resources to learn to script, I forsee less and less people volunteering

People don't learn to script so that they can help others, they do it for their own reasons. Most just want to make some cool stuff, and the engine allows them to do that.

Unless one has a big server, one shouldn't have a big staff, which would be needed to have people specialize.

Again, missing the point. I'm not talking about specialisation, I'm talking about recruiting a talented scripter and then teaching him to write serverside code. Giving him access to an NPC Server so he can learn to work with it. It doesn't take long if the person has any real intelligence.

Originally posted by draiden0
I agree. Instead of just overhauling, there is actual script code that allows you to change graal version in the engine. All the server people have to do is give the server all the versions. You just select what version you want to run off. Simple solution to a complex problem?

Uninformed solution. You have no idea of the trouble such a remedy would cause. Clientside-only servers are being phased out for a reason.

[MadWolf]

Originally posted by osrs


Since that "shutup" comes from you,i don't really care.
Also you aren't a scripter and have no right to say anything about this subject.

You make comments in the Graphics forum, do you not? Next time I see you in there I will tell you to back the hell off. But, who are you to tell me my rights? Nobody, nor are you anyone to tell him that his opinion is wrong. Just go away already.

Also, that's pretty rich coming from somone who stole scripts.

[draiden0]

-Because setlevel2 only works serverside.-

Since not much is left to fix. Would you know what line of code will work with the servers for setlevel?

As for getting new talent... I've gone through 20, not 3 or 5. 20 employees. They want to work, seem good then stop working. There is only one thing that moves people, it's the $. I can't get anyone nearly as dedicated as me to help me with my server world. All I see are a bunch of egos, lame programming skills, and the lack of desire to exceed each other. Just more lame childish complaining who is the best.

Alittle frustrated because I just did 7 hours straight of work. My new staff seems ok. But I had to trim past a crap load of emails just to find 3 good employees. Graal needs to adjust for the fact that real talent is so rare after 3 years I'm fed up. I don't want to see more ego boosting either.

[DenoriZakarum]

hi, welcome to the graal forums

[osrs]

Originally posted by MadWolf

You make comments in the Graphics forum, do you not? Next time I see you in there I will tell you to back the hell off. But, who are you to tell me my rights? Nobody, nor are you anyone to tell him that his opinion is wrong. Just go away already.

I post where I want

Originally posted by MadWolf
Also, that's pretty rich coming from somone who stole scripts.

-Ignored-

[MadWolf]

Originally posted by osrs


I post where I want



-Ignored-

If you post where you want, dont be a hypocrit and tell me I have no rights to post about scripting.

And good way to defend yourself, heh. I suppose I could be the immature one by dragging this out, but hey you started it.

[osrs]

Originally posted by MadWolf


If you post where you want, dont be a hypocrit and tell me I have no rights to post about scripting.

And good way to defend yourself, heh. I suppose I could be the immature one by dragging this out, but hey you started it.

All i did was express my opinion saying that he was wrong.