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Old 04-28-2013, 04:30 PM
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If you wish to watch the activity of another player who has been reported doing things illegal, or continuous harassment, you would hide and watch, taking notes and snapping pictures, before confronting them, or in other cases, jailing/banning.

It's just like a undercover cop in a unmarked police vehicle patrolling the streets.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:33 PM
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the stealth is usefull to watch players. if they know there is a staff member around, they will for sure act different then when there is a staff member around
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:34 PM
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There is a chat logger but it doesn't work the way you think it does. It doesn't log every single person, it also doesn't log every single text you say (if I remember correctly).
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:36 PM
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(if I remember correctly).
You do. I believe it was also adjusted for that stupid typewriter.
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:07 PM
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It doesn't log every single person
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I believe it was also adjusted for that stupid typewriter.
Not.

Last I checked all chat logging was off though, it's pretty pointless.
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Old 04-28-2013, 08:28 PM
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There is more to being a PR than just looking through logs. We also gotta look for the abusers of the sort, like hackers, macro users, glitchers, and just straight out chat of people. The stealth helps with that. When we get a report of a harasser we go and watch, take notes, then do what is necessary. Instead of sifting through a extensive log of player's chat (in which the typewriter loves to spam).

We also do the duties of FAQ as well.
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Old 04-28-2013, 08:57 PM
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Old 04-29-2013, 02:00 AM
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There is actually chat logs on certain players (Not all) that we use extensively throughout serious investigations and in some cases have actually helped us solve/resolve the case.

Also, you guys completely went off topic, you're all suppose to be telling me about how awesome my video is and how scary I am, geeze guys.
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Old 04-29-2013, 02:42 AM
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:53 AM
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Hey guys! Just saw this and would like to address a few points:

1) The attack on Godzilla's reputation is unwarranted and unappreciated. He has been playing Era for a number of years, and each year, as you would expect, he has grown a bit older and as I've personally noticed, a bit wiser. He made some bad decisions in the past, but if you were to look at him more recently there is nothing substantial enough that would stop him from becoming staff. Just because someone has made past mistakes does not mean that they can learn from those mistakes, act on what they have learned, and mature. I am very satisfied with how he has handled the PR team since he has been appointed to PRA and trust his judgement in situations where he is needed.

2) I can see the arguments for and against stealth. Chat loggers can be effective in monitoring player activity, but they do not necessarily paint the whole picture of particular situations. They do not log nicknames at the present time, other players around that could be joining in a harassing situation -- basically environmental factors that are harder to determine based off of merely a chat log. Stealth mode provides PRs the opportunity to put themselves in situations where players think they cannot be reprimanded (due to no PRs being around) and catch those players that may be acting in an inappropriate manner. In some cases, this can be fully logged in a chat logger, but in others, which I've experienced first hand as a PR, PRA, and now Co-Manager, they cannot.

So while I can understand your argument, stealth mode really does not cause any harm to the players, more so keep them safe. I don't see any major drawbacks of PRs having stealth mode. It is heavily regulated and any staff caught abusing it usually lose the privilege if the circumstances lend themselves.

ANYWAY. Obviously the video was meant to be satirical. I thought it was very funny.
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Old 04-29-2013, 04:24 AM
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2) I can see the arguments for and against stealth. Chat loggers can be effective in monitoring player activity, but they do not necessarily paint the whole picture of particular situations. They do not log nicknames at the present time, other players around that could be joining in a harassing situation -- basically environmental factors that are harder to determine based off of merely a chat log. Stealth mode provides PRs the opportunity to put themselves in situations where players think they cannot be reprimanded (due to no PRs being around) and catch those players that may be acting in an inappropriate manner. In some cases, this can be fully logged in a chat logger, but in others, which I've experienced first hand as a PR, PRA, and now Co-Manager, they cannot.
What if a biased staff member didn't capture the environmental factors and made a claim or took just a screenshot without providing said factors?
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Old 04-29-2013, 04:36 AM
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What if a biased staff member didn't capture the environmental factors and made a claim or took just a screenshot without providing said factors?
If the victim of abuse reported this in said situation the PRA or an administrator would look into this further. Hopefully in doing that we could sort out what really happened, reprimand the staff member, and do our best to rectify the situation with the victim.

No system is entirely perfect, being a staff member alone you are put in situations in which you must use your best judgement and avoid situations in which favoritism could be a factor. Unfortunately, this does not always happen -- not only on Era, but on every playerworld. That being said, we do our best to ensure that everyone encounters a fair play experience and to regulate our staff members. There have been situations in the past where we have caught this and the staff member was seriously reprimanded.
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Old 04-29-2013, 05:08 AM
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What if a biased staff member didn't capture the environmental factors and made a claim or took just a screenshot without providing said factors?
I've set up a way for that to not be the case (anymore/if ever).
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:54 AM
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I've set up a way for that to not be the case (anymore/if ever).
I remember why PRs are to be watched by two other PRs during betspars against other players now.
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:58 AM
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What if those of us just didn't play the server let it be ran its own way.
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From personal experience..it's one of the most valuable assets, if not the most valuable, that you could have as a PR. Hearing the words of another player or reading a blank wall of chat without context can give bad results.
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