graal v3?

[Dach]

With this release, Graal will work also on Linux and Macintosh computers!

Ahh, see like I said I know little about compatability so when I read that I didn't quite get it... Why do I all of a sudden feel like a little kid?

[Ibonic]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
So you dudes are telling me that Gentoo users have to compile all their own software? That seems pretty weird... Surely it compiles into an executable, so why not just distribute that?


Also: Programs can be made that can be successfully compiled on multiple platforms/operating systems. Graal, however, is a little more OS-specific. Most games have lots of code that interacts with a specific Windows API (opening Windows, sending network messages etc), and they'll need some degree of modification if they're to compile on other platforms.

well, you don't have to compile everything, but it can customize each package (automatically in some cases) to your specifications, which can make a big difference in performance depending on hardware and other things

it's not so much for OS-specific customizing as it is for optimization etc.

[Ibonic]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Fair enough, so what's the problem? Stefan can release it precompiled, no?

the main problem is just that some/most people who use gentoo especially, won't like a precompiled version as much because it restricts the customization; but yes, there are ways to do it (ebuild as Loriel mentioned would be nice because it works with portage, and doesn't have to be open source, with the -b flag for example)

[daboo]

or maybe he could just release it in a G-Zipped Tarball? :P (pre-compiled of course, if it works for Windows, it can work for linux...). There are resources for making programs in C/C++ that can be compiled on many different platforms/os's with little or no effort (prob just some #define's #ifdef's), the binaries of course won't work from system to system, but it can be compiled system to system. There are programs in on linux that have installers for non OSS after all, such as Star Office.

[melissa1988]

Yeah. I was being pretty basic in my explanation. Ebuild would be fine for Gentoo, but for SuSE, Mandrake, and Red Hat users especially, RPM is needed. But then there's the issue of dependencies...Stefan will either need to include all the dependencies or make sure there's a way to get them. Depending on what is needed, many users might already have them. I just think it could get a little messy. Of course, dependency issues apply to source too.

[melissa1988]

Told ya Graal Linux wouldn't be out this weekend.

[Admins]

The are nice tools on Linux like 'rsync', we will probably make a little script for downloading the latest files (compressed)

[melissa1988]

Ah okay...similar to the way Nvidia is now releasing its drivers?

[Projectshifter]

Okay okay... arg.
It's written in C++ by the way. And he's working on a new Scripting engine, adding new commands and such. New things to play with XP. But C++ is VERY portable. No, portable doesn't mean TRANSportable, it means able to be switched to OS's. But you wouldn't have to change much.
---Shifter

[Admins]

Yes there is the programming language, graphics, sounds, keyboard, networking, installation of the program. We decided to use tools made by Loki for making the installation easy on Linux.