Bell, the New PWA?

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Devil

You didn't prove your point, it's a stupid point you made. Show Andy what business became successful from only hiring friends?

Someone mentioned earlier that Houdini isn't head of PWA, who is then? and shouldn't Houdini be told of these things?

What if Houdini had an inability to work alongside Bell because of personal issues, was anyone going to bring this up to Houdini before she was hired.. maybe atleast ASK his opinion on the matter? Ofcourse not, this is Graal.

A friend to a close friend of mine owns a snowboarding business that exists out of 2 shops plus another facility where you can pay for private lessons to learn how to snowboard. I think they are 6 or 7 people running it all, and guess what - all of them except ONE have been friends since they were kids. They make quite some money too.. except this year, since the snow didnt really come until the middle of January.

And the question here wasnt about Houdini being head of PWA or not, it was about hiring friends just because they were friends with you.

[Devil]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

A friend to a close friend of mine owns a snowboarding business that exists out of 2 shops plus another facility where you can pay for private lessons to learn how to snowboard. I think they are 6 or 7 people running it all, and guess what - all of them except ONE have been friends since they were kids. They make quite some money too.. except this year, since the snow didnt really come until the middle of January.

And the question here wasnt about Houdini being head of PWA or not, it was about hiring friends just because they were friends with you.

Obviously I'm pointing out flaws with this whole ordeal with Bell, PWA etc..
I can bring up Houdini if I want too.

There is no proof there in your first statement, I own 17 Taco Bell stores, I have 10 million dollars, I am a success.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Devil

Obviously I'm pointing out flaws with this whole ordeal with Bell, PWA etc..
I can bring up Houdini if I want too.

There is no proof there in your first statement, I own 17 Taco Bell stores, I have 10 million dollars, I am a success.

Whatever. Im tired, im going to bed. Obviously there is flaws in the current PWA team, but atleast they are showing signs of improvements. Hiring Bell was just the first step towards a bigger goal.. but last time I checked, Houdini was head of PWA and I am not aware of a change in that. It is very odd that he was not aware of the hiring of Bell until he read it on the forums.

But instead of pointing out the flaws and whining about it, how about trying to help Stefan & Co. to fix it by being a little more positive and giving ideas on how too improve.

[killerogue]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

Hiring Bell was just the first step towards a bigger goal.

Sensible as I said before. This hiring could lead to Stefan and Unix trusting players again to hold global positions. Tho, I am agreeing with Devil, James and Sephiroth.

[Devil]

It's called an example of a possibility, you are still not understanding.

[Devil]

Lol, that's easy to help Graal, from my country anyway, but why should I give ideas, which I have in the past, for them to just be forgotten about and go down the drain. The company has to help itself. I wonder how many prospective customers have viewed these forums and said "Stuff this, these guys aren't getting my money" and moved onto other, better games.

Anyway, Rufus, would you be saying the things you are if you weren't friends with Ibonic and Bell?

You seem to think that myself, Lord Sep and Andy are friends or something, we don't talk on Graal, AIM, MSN or on the forums, we're just a bunch of people who all feel the same way, whereas you're up Ibonic and Bells' so we know why you have those opinions you have.

[Devil]

Also, I am not ripping on her credibility, nor am I bagging her, so I can understand that this thread is still open for that reason, and I respect that, it's about time we could have some decent discussions around here without crap being closed every second.

[Infernix]

All in all this argument only brings up the fact that Graal hires its staff and developers through unprofessional means.

Yet, will this argument change anything? No. Bell will still be a PWA and Cyber w/e will still continue to hire how they like. And when you think about it, Im sure they dont care. They've some how come up with this scheme to get hundreds of players to develop a game for them for free. And have us pay them to make them money. Funny isn't it when you think about it.

[Devil]

There's a difference between making bucket loads, or a measly wage.

Which do you think they've made?

[Infernix]

Originally Posted by Devil

There's a difference between making bucket loads, or a measly wage.

Which do you think they've made?

Theyve made a measly wage, but they are making money are they not?(Or were making money) Money is Money to me. Let it be 1 dollar or 100.

[Devil]

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. It's not like they've hit the jackpot though with their scheme.

[smirt362]

Originally Posted by Devil

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. It's not like they've hit the jackpot though with their scheme.

They aren't the only ones to let the players come up with the content either.

[Andy0687]

Originally Posted by Devil

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. It's not like they've hit the jackpot though with their scheme.

They could have at one point and had enough money leftover to hire some REAL staff instead of picking at people who want to have some kind of e-power over people who could mostly care less about them =|

[Devil]

I totally agree, I've seen other online games who let the players submit content, and those companies are far from poor.. so I wonder what happened

[HoudiniMan]

I just wanted to point out to whoever said --Chris-- hired calani - calani was hired before --Chris--... so I imagine that would've been a pretty neat trick to have her hired.