Offer

ETD · #1 03-03-2004, 04:20 PM

Ok, well, remember the 'EoEoA' thread, where a lot of people offered to help? (6 people offered to help actually... not just in the thread) and so far we have gotten 0 real help (well, I haven't been ablt to contact one of them yet... but still, we're 0 - 5)

I am assuming these people just said they would help, so I would not kill EoA... but it just makes me mad at them instead.... especially when someone says they will help, then doesn't help, then ignores you when you try to contact them!

anyways...

Since I have given up on 'helpers' and I can not seem to be able to hire a scripting team myself, I would like to make this offer.

Instead of just killing the project, I would like to offer to merge with a playerworld which is already in development (or even public) which has already made quests, and NPC's....

EoA has a LOT of levels, and our graphics are awsome I think :P so the server we merge with doesn't even have to have a lot of levels, or graphics... just quests, and weapons, and have a similar theme (no futuristic servers or anything)

The merge would be negotiated, as to who gets what staff possition and all...

Lets see if this at least works... I'd hate to see all our work be done for nothing

Mykel · #2 03-03-2004, 04:30 PM

No merge.

ETD · #3 03-03-2004, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by Mykel
No merge.

If you can think of a better solution, I'd like to hear

If we could get all the scripting done on our own, I wouldn't merge... but that just isn't possible.

Even if we get helpers who will actually help, it's hard to organize people like that... It would be much better to just have a real team to work on the scripts together, instead of random helpers, who can't even devote much time to helping...

WanDaMan · #4 03-03-2004, 05:50 PM

Argh make up your mind, but don't merge with some crap server; it'd be a waste.
I bet you didn't think I was going to say that..

osrs · #5 03-03-2004, 06:54 PM

Since i offered my help this is related to me.

1st. You should give us rights, i already told you to set my rights and give me a test level.
2nd. I already scripted what you told me to script, i was always logging on RC to check if i had at least a test level but i hadn't.

So, it's your fault.

ETD · #6 03-03-2004, 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by osrs
Since i offered my help this is related to me.

1st. You should give us rights, i already told you to set my rights and give me a test level.
2nd. I already scripted what you told me to script, i was always logging on RC to check if i had at least a test level but i hadn't.

So, it's your fault.

1. You never told me what rights you needed, or anything o.o
2. I didn't know that... you never told me :o ok, so 1 in 5 did work
:P

anyways, I am getting some ideas on what to do.... my idea will be fun, and great, if the people I need to talk to agree

P.S. Sorry Osrs <3

Brad · #7 03-04-2004, 06:58 PM

You can't get 5 good scripters. If you can even manage to get 2 you'd be okay.

VeX_RaT_Boy · #8 03-04-2004, 07:12 PM

I'm the only scripter on Nolavario. So far so good

Tyrial · #9 03-04-2004, 08:06 PM

Brad: I got two awesome scripters XD

Chad (Dach) and Hell Raven

Brad · #10 03-04-2004, 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrial
Brad: I got two awesome scripters XD

Chad (Dach) and Hell Raven

Ya, 2. If I made a server I'd only have one but he'd be good enough. Him and I were going to make a server but I hate recruiting staff.

osrs · #11 03-04-2004, 09:48 PM

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Originally posted by Brad
I hate recruiting staff.

So do i.

'

WanDaMan · #12 03-04-2004, 09:52 PM

I hate rejecting/firing staff.

Tweekeroth_Rebirth · #13 03-04-2004, 10:33 PM

if you ask me i'm a very good LAT, and i can somewhat script, i would love to be hired if possible, and if you are wanting to merge, me and Zido are making our own server?? what do you think?

DarkShadows_Legend · #14 03-05-2004, 12:50 AM

There is some bad history between Zido and ETD so the chances of them getting together again to develop a world is not likely to happen.

URBANLEGEND · #15 03-05-2004, 01:50 AM

ETD, YOu beg for help but are never on when people go onto offer help...... As for a merge I would with EOA... But EOA is its own thing and shouldnt merge with anyone...

Aknts · #16 03-05-2004, 02:40 AM

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Originally posted by Brad

Ya, 2. If I made a server I'd only have one but he'd be good enough. Him and I were going to make a server but I hate recruiting staff.

BRAD!!!! Where have I been... I didn't know you got unbanned..

ETD · #17 03-05-2004, 04:18 AM

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Originally posted by URBANLEGEND
ETD, YOu beg for help but are never on when people go onto offer help...... As for a merge I would with EOA... But EOA is its own thing and shouldnt merge with anyone...

Forum PM's work wonders

I am at the computer a lot durring all times of the day... just not always on graal.

Also, I'd rather merge with a server and get things done, than let EoA die...

And Brad, sure, I'd take 2 scripters anyday... the problem is that right now we have 0
o.o

Osrs said he'd work for us, but he's too busy at the moment to be a full staff member

haunter · #18 03-05-2004, 04:35 AM

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Originally posted by WanDaMan
I hate rejecting/firing staff.

Wtf, that's my favorite part of graal. >D

Brad · #19 03-05-2004, 05:06 AM

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Originally posted by Aknts

BRAD!!!! Where have I been... I didn't know you got unbanned..

Cha man cha.

Mykel · #20 03-05-2004, 05:09 AM

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Originally posted by haunter

Wtf, that's my favorite part of graal. >D

Lmao, ditto.

WanDaMan · #21 03-05-2004, 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by haunter

Wtf, that's my favorite part of graal. >D

Lol I hate it :O
****ys going corrupt massing out crap about you lol :O
Fun fun.
Osrs is busy, he works on alot of servers, to be honest your lucky to actually get any help from him :O!

SlikRick · #22 03-05-2004, 11:06 AM

ETD contact me on aim so we can talk...I should be on during the day tomorrow for a couple hours. Or if I see you 1st I'll pm you or something.

Darlene159 · #23 03-05-2004, 11:14 AM

Take my word for it, ETD...you better take help as it is offered, because there is no such thing as full time, or permanent help on servers.

Tweekeroth_Rebirth · #24 03-05-2004, 07:31 PM

*raises hand* i'll help you ETD, heh all u need to do is give me the OK the work with you

Angel · #25 03-05-2004, 07:46 PM

Take a leadership role, If you want people to help assign us work and tell us about it and we will do it, You just sit there and get mad that we "didnt help" but you never gave us work to do !

ETD · #26 03-05-2004, 08:10 PM

SlikRick: ok

Moonie: I will take the help... I just will not let my server go public, till we have some full-time scripters... because I don't want to be public, then something happens, and all the helpers are busy or something, and I'd be stuck :/

Tweekeroth_Rebirth: forum PM me your AIM or MSN name, and we'll talk

Angel: I try to give people projects, but most of the time they are like "oh, I can't do that..." or "ewww, I hate making those..."

I will give people projects, but it's hard, because the systems need to work with eachother, and if I have 1 scripter making 1 system, then 1 making another, and they don't talk to eachother, things will just get messy. Also, last time I tried to tell you the theme, because I wanted you to work on the systems, and you kept leaving before I even had the chance to tell you what I needed done. I have told other scripters what I needed done, and they just never did anything.

It's not as simple as to just give someone a project, because I need to find out what they are best at, and give them something to do based on that. Also, I'd rather give someone something to do, that they WANT to make, instead of something that they feel obligated to make.

I may seem hard to get ahold of... but that's because I am unusually busy this week. (I have a friend coming to visit me this week, starting tonight) So if I am away on RC, just PM me anyways... I have been just leaving my "-away' on my RC all day, even iff I am here, because I have been doing things around the room.

Forum PM's are the best way to get intouch with me... or maybe AIM/MSN, if you can get my contact info.

Darlene159 · #27 03-05-2004, 08:22 PM

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Moonie: I will take the help... I just will not let my server go public, till we have some full-time scripters... because I don't want to be public, then something happens, and all the helpers are busy or something, and I'd be stuck :/

So, what happens if you do get "so called" full time scripters, you go public, then at some point (which, trust me will happen more likely then not) they quit? Then you go private again? There is no such thing as full time anything on these servers, all every staff member is, is a helper......Way, way too many PW's in the making, and nowhere near enough good staff to spread among them as "full time" staff.....heck, there isnt even enough to spread around as helpers

I'm not trying to be negative here, I just know what it's like from a Managers view.

ETD · #28 03-05-2004, 08:31 PM

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Originally posted by Darlene159
I'm not trying to be negative here, I just know what it's like from a Managers view.

Yea... I'm just mostly worried about the first few weeks, because I'm sure there will be bugs and stuff to fix... no matter how carefull we are

Also, it'll take at least 1 full-time scripter (full time, as in, they dedicate their full time to one server) to finnish us off, and make sure all the NPC's run together properly, and all that...

I really need a scripting cheif, which can just be incharge of all the scripting, because I am really not qualified for managing scripters... Guess I put too much faith in thinking that PD would stay with us... I really wasn't prepared at all to manage without him

Nitkizi · #29 03-06-2004, 12:16 AM

You could always pay them..

R0bin · #30 03-06-2004, 02:03 AM

Ben made me come on your server and help you with scripting, and all you did was hummed and harred, which really pisses me off. Perhaps it would be good if EoA had a storyline, or at least something to work off of. Scripters dont just pull npcs out of our asses, we have to have inspiration. You sitting there going "What do you want to do?" DOES NOT HELP. Give osrs some rights, and to be honest i think he is silly for helping you, He obviously doesnt have the "avoid unnecessary work" gene that other people have.

ETD · #31 03-06-2004, 03:09 AM

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Originally posted by R0bin
Ben made me come on your server and help you with scripting, and all you did was hummed and harred, which really pisses me off. Perhaps it would be good if EoA had a storyline, or at least something to work off of. Scripters dont just pull npcs out of our asses, we have to have inspiration. You sitting there going "What do you want to do?" DOES NOT HELP. Give osrs some rights, and to be honest i think he is silly for helping you, He obviously doesnt have the "avoid unnecessary work" gene that other people have.

Robin, I gave you something I needed to do, and you were like "I don't want to do that"

so then I gave you something else... and again, you said you didn't want to make that, so finally I asked what YOU wanted to make, since it seemed I was picking stuff you didn't want to do

I wasn't going to sit there all day listing things...

Then after that you asked for rights, and I said I would give you rights when you desided what you wanted to do (so I knew what rights to give you), and then you got all mad, so I disconnected you
o.o

Anyways, we have a theme, AND storyline, and we have for almost a year and a half now...
Osrs has rights now.. I didn;t give him rights at that time, because we had not desided what he was going to make, and so I didn't know what exact rights to add.

WanDaMan · #32 03-06-2004, 11:17 AM

Now osrs project is behind scedual

Smeh o-well just hurry n' finish

R0bin · #33 03-06-2004, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by ETD
Robin, I gave you something I needed to do, and you were like "I don't want to do that"

You gave me gfx work, IM A SCRIPTER.

Yeah, i can pick up mspaint and make something snazzy, but ew. I hate it.

You didnt give me any more work after i said i didnt want to do the first thing you asked me to do, You just turned into the same stuck up ****s i have seen managers turn into just because two globals were on your server, And i notice they havent been back! What a suprise.

WanDaMan · #34 03-06-2004, 05:03 PM

I actually like'd your old sig r0bin..

(The one with your graal char..

R0bin · #35 03-06-2004, 05:05 PM

lol i did that in paint shop pro. on linux now, cant remake it

WanDaMan · #36 03-06-2004, 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by R0bin
lol i did that in paint shop pro. on linux now, cant remake it

x.x!
Don't you have a back up?!

ETD · #37 03-07-2004, 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by R0bin

You gave me gfx work, IM A SCRIPTER.

Yeah, i can pick up mspaint and make something snazzy, but ew. I hate it.

You didnt give me any more work after i said i didnt want to do the first thing you asked me to do, You just turned into the same stuck up ****s i have seen managers turn into just because two globals were on your server, And i notice they havent been back! What a suprise.

I asked you to make a sword system! It required making a sword template, but that didn't require any real gfx work at all... All you have to do is place some shield image in order, then use it to script... I could have gfx people make the real shield
o.o
After that, I asked if you wanted to do quests, or jobs, or weapons... and we talked even longer about what you could do...

And I wasn't acting any differently than I would have if Angel and Loriel weren't on. You just started yelling that you wanted rights, and I said I would not give you rights till we desided what you were going to work on, and you got mad....

but whatever, I don't want help from someone who keeps on asking for rights, and won't even cooperate when I'm trying to find what you would like to help us with

Anyways, I have recieved a few forum PM's about possible merges... I am still looking into them.

WanDaMan · #38 03-07-2004, 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by ETD

I asked you to make a sword system! It required making a
Anyways, I have recieved a few forum PM's about possible merges... I am still looking into them.

Can we hear some?
ETD contact 'notorious Ceciu' on AIM, he want's to help you..

ETD · #39 03-08-2004, 01:52 AM

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Originally posted by WanDaMan

Can we hear some?
ETD contact 'notorious Ceciu' on AIM, he want's to help you..

No, sorry, since I am not really sure what's going to happen
:P
no need to start speculation.

Also, I will try to contact that guy tonight...
just I've been very busy lately, and not at my computer at all.

WanDaMan · #40 03-08-2004, 09:43 AM

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Originally posted by ETD

No, sorry, since I am not really sure what's going to happen
:P
no need to start speculation.

Also, I will try to contact that guy tonight...
just I've been very busy lately, and not at my computer at all.

Ah, okay no worries, he thought I was manager of EOA, lol.. :P