Online level editor

Azrael528 · #1 08-13-2003, 06:35 AM

Would it be possible to make an online level editor? It would make testing and stuff on UC servers so much easier...

I'm not sure if this should go in the levels or scripting forum, so I put it here.

Mykel · #2 08-13-2003, 06:39 AM

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Originally posted by Azrael528
Would it be possible to make an online level editor? It would make testing and stuff on UC servers so much easier...

I'm not sure if this should go in the levels or scripting forum, so I put it here.

How would it make it easier? It would be the exact same, but online. o.o

Thought · #3 08-13-2003, 07:02 AM

*Walks around in a level*
*Sports a tile error*
ACK! A TILE ERROR!
*Hits F4*
*Fixes tile error*
*Hits save*
*Hits play*
*Continues playing the server*

Mykel · #4 08-13-2003, 07:22 AM

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Originally posted by Thought
*Walks around in a level*
*Sports a tile error*
ACK! A TILE ERROR!
*Hits F4*
*Fixes tile error*
*Hits save*
*Hits play*
*Continues playing the server*

*Didn't look at it that way*
Yes, that would be very helpful.

ApeHex · #5 08-13-2003, 07:29 AM

That kinda reminds me of the old days you could save a level off the server with alt +5 and then put your npcs in levels folder then play the level on the server and the npc went into your inventory.

! But they changed it.

Mykel · #6 08-13-2003, 07:37 AM

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Originally posted by ApeHex
That kinda reminds me of the old days you could save a level off the server with alt +5 and then put your npcs in levels folder then play the level on the server and the npc went into your inventory.
! But they changed it.

'Old School Hacking'

Snakeandy7 · #7 08-13-2003, 09:21 AM

I did that alot :Shamed:
Also in your step by step fixing a tile error, how could you play it on the server, you didnt upload in FTP

Mykel · #8 08-13-2003, 09:28 AM

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Originally posted by Snakeandy7
I did that alot :Shamed:
Also in your step by step fixing a tile error, how could you play it on the server, you didnt upload in FTP

That would be where the save button would save the level - to ftp.

Geno · #9 08-13-2003, 11:31 AM

it would also let you know if your NPCs are working or not
like if you scripted something right ect.
in fact i thought that this was under work and was supposed to be released a while back but i guess it was forgoten ;x

Konvict · #10 08-13-2003, 12:56 PM

Uhh
You would also have to make the script where NOT ALL PLAYERS can do that.
Only make it where Admins/Managers can edit it or somthing like that.

MadWolf · #11 08-13-2003, 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by Konvict
Uhh
You would also have to make the script where NOT ALL PLAYERS can do that.
Only make it where Admins/Managers can edit it or somthing like that.

Duh?

Mykel · #12 08-13-2003, 04:36 PM

It would be that people with level ftp. Also, if they have NC too, they can fix the scripts.

SaijinGohan · #13 08-13-2003, 06:11 PM

Wow thats a nice idea. It would be so much easier. It probably wont fly though. It could be a pretty easy thing to hack.

Mykel · #14 08-13-2003, 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by SaijinGohan
Wow thats a nice idea. It would be so much easier. It probably wont fly though. It could be a pretty easy thing to hack.

And how is that?

SaijinGohan · #15 08-13-2003, 08:55 PM

Well now all you have to do to edit a level is get the gserver to think you have the rights to do so.
If you did it from RC, you first need to get access to the server and then get the rights to do so.

Online level editing is 1 step secure whereas from rc it is 2 steps.

mistermicro · #16 08-13-2003, 09:35 PM

An online level editor.. I had a friend by the name of Er1c and he managed to make a online gmap form with php or some web scripting language.. it was.. basic.. but good..

VeX_RaT_Boy · #17 08-13-2003, 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by mistermicro
An online level editor.. I had a friend by the name of Er1c and he managed to make a online gmap form with php or some web scripting language.. it was.. basic.. but good..

http://www.gscript.us/gmap.php

That one is scripted by Riot.... but it's the same thing kinda..

voicedcow6666 · #18 10-10-2003, 10:47 AM

(I was gone when this was made and just happened to have found it while searching for something.)

It is possible to make online level editors...in fact, I made one. It still has some bugs in it and stuff I want to addon, but it worked. I started messing with it a couple of nights changing some stuff around and had to get off before I could have it working again, and haven't had a chance to work on it anymore.

There's a serverside function, hasright(rights,level) that checks to see if you have those certain rights or not to that level...There's also a serverside updateboard2, which is the same as updateboard, syntax-wise and all, except saves the level permenantly, though it does take some time.

I wouldn't recommend making one now though, considering Stefan is working on the new improved and more powerful scripting engine. It's supposed to have reverse compatibility, but it'd probally still be best to wait on that.

190 · #19 10-12-2003, 04:33 AM

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Originally posted by Mykel
*Didn't look at it that way*
Yes, that would be very helpful.

Yes, that would be useful, but you would need to put accounts in some sort of a list to use it so not just anyone could edit a level. I would assume that list could go in server options. But yeah, good idea :P

voicedcow6666 · #20 10-12-2003, 08:32 AM

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Originally posted by 190

Yes, that would be useful, but you would need to put accounts in some sort of a list to use it so not just anyone could edit a level. I would assume that list could go in server options. But yeah, good idea :P

That's what hasright() is for...It'd be pointless to have a server option for accounts which can use it when that's there. If they have w access to a level, then they could do whatever if they're in that server option or not.

DustyPorViva · #21 10-12-2003, 08:47 AM

Graal v3 will only support online level editing.
Or that is what I heard.

alarid0 · #22 10-12-2003, 08:59 AM

hold on to them older versions folks

Kadar · #23 10-12-2003, 12:21 PM

It could be done but would probably lag the server..
Tiles can be edited clientside but to change them to all players putnpc2 would work well..

But would it lag?

voicedcow6666 · #24 10-12-2003, 01:07 PM

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Originally posted by Kadar
It could be done but would probably lag the server..
Tiles can be edited clientside but to change them to all players putnpc2 would work well..

But would it lag?

Why would you use putnpc2 to change tiles?

I said in my first post that updateboard2 saves the level...that's also assuming the server option is there too, I think it's savelevels=true...might be wrong. If you make it right, there wouldn't be a whole lot of lag.

And yes, v3 will have a built-in level editor...no more offline.

syltburk · #25 10-12-2003, 02:27 PM

:o
my oppinion in this are simple, if you are lazy people that cant open a folder and move the file to the levels folder on rc, yes it would be a good idea

myself i just see this as pointless and lazyness.

voicedcow6666 · #26 10-13-2003, 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by syltburk
:o
my oppinion in this are simple, if you are lazy people that cant open a folder and move the file to the levels folder on rc, yes it would be a good idea

myself i just see this as pointless and lazyness.

It's a whole lot more convenient to just be able to edit the level online and allow everyone to see an instant change.

And what about people who have full access to levels and lag like hell whenever they open the levels/ folder? I know how that is, before I had set rights I had full access to levels and it took forever to open the levels folder, and lagged the hell out of me.

Kadar · #27 10-14-2003, 04:00 AM

how else would u change them serverside?
besides showimg

voicedcow6666 · #28 10-14-2003, 07:19 AM

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Originally posted by Kadar
how else would u change them serverside?
besides showimg

umm, showimg doesn't change levels...it only shows an image for the client.

updateboard2 is a serverside command which Stefan added to make PERMENANT changes to levels, assuming the server option savelevels is equal to true.

There is also a clientside command, updateboard, which makes the changes for the client only.

dorfindel · #29 10-15-2003, 10:39 PM

This would be much easier, that way you don't have to bring everything offline, then upload through FTP..someone should script this for admins so that they can edit stuff and then save it like that. =D.

voicedcow6666 · #30 10-16-2003, 08:22 AM

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Originally posted by dorfindel
This would be much easier, that way you don't have to bring everything offline, then upload through FTP..someone should script this for admins so that they can edit stuff and then save it like that. =D.

A) I'm currently working on one for my own self gratitude.
B) There will be one in Graal3

Crono · #31 10-17-2003, 09:37 PM

Would people be able to see you messing around with the tiles or will the "level editing" be something only you can see until you hit the 'save' button? (Assuming hitting the save button or whatever updates the level ._.)

If not, I'd rather just stick to editing offline. -shrugs-

voicedcow6666 · #32 10-18-2003, 11:55 AM

Yeah, my beta version of it was where everyone would be able to see you doing it as you did it...but I've started converting it to where you have to hit a save button, since there was already a save button on the image I was using (NC Weapon edit window).

Scott · #33 10-18-2003, 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by voicedcow6666
Yeah, my beta version of it was where everyone would be able to see you doing it as you did it...but I've started converting it to where you have to hit a save button, since there was already a save button on the image I was using (NC Weapon edit window).

I think two versions would be nice, because the building while players can see could be apart of an event. Like a player building a house or something on a role-play server, you need to get a few people to hammer on wood and a level maker updates it as they go. I remember they did that on Providence, really fun. Once I had like 20 people "building" a big house.

Knuckles · #34 10-21-2003, 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by Azrael528
Would it be possible to make an online level editor? It would make testing and stuff on UC servers so much easier...

I'm not sure if this should go in the levels or scripting forum, so I put it here.

I didn't read all the other posts.. but its possible to make an NPC like that.

dorfindel · #35 10-25-2003, 01:07 AM

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Originally posted by Scott

I think two versions would be nice, because the building while players can see could be apart of an event. Like a player building a house or something on a role-play server, you need to get a few people to hammer on wood and a level maker updates it as they go. I remember they did that on Providence, really fun. Once I had like 20 people "building" a big house.

What? Why not just have a script show parts of an image which look like tiles? Or even better, set the tiles when they "build" them through gscript..