Paladin Code

[Discharge]

Originally posted by Tseng


Minotaurs and dragons are mythological creatures which hav been referred to for some thousands of years, whereas orcs are merely contained in fantasy stories in a rather recent timeframe. Should every made-up creature gain its own dictionary definition? I do not think so.



We speak of any paladin at all - remember, we are trying to prove that a Dark Paladin can exist. Now, if you acknowledge that there are other types of paladins than the specific one which you have defined, then you acknowledge also the possibility for a "Dark Paladin" to exist.



Oh. I inverted the color on the left, and the result was the color on the right. That shade of blue is the opposite of that shade of orange.

There you go Tseng, the dictionary cannot fully apply to the fantasy world. It does not always give thorough definition or even a definition on some fictional creatures/persons/things.

Perhaps it was my failure to elucidate that I was speaking of Paladins in fiction, since after all we are playing in a game that supposedly is based on a fictional world. Hence, there is no need for debate on this any longer because I acknowledge it is very possible for a Paladin to be evil in the real world back in middle ages.

Yea I notice that but did you try to invert regular grey? Its not much of an inversion.
The point which you could obviously see is that not everything has to have an opposite.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by Discharge
The point which you could obviously see is that not everything has to have an opposite.

Indeed it does not, but that point is irrelevant. Nobody said that Dark Paladins are the exact opposite of normal Paladins - they are only opposite in one basic aspect.

[Discharge]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Orange doesn't have an opposite. Light does. So does dark. Paladins don't have an opposite, but their light alignment does.

What point are you making?

The point that I was making is clearly oblivious, not everything has an opposite. You may have something that has opposite views of an other, however that does not mean you can slap on a prefix and create a new character. You might as well create light necromancer where the light overwrites the darkness of that character and now you have your very own made up fantasy character. Now do you see where things get odd? This is another thing I just wanted to point out.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by Discharge
The point that I was making is clearly oblivious, not everything has an opposite.

Read->Think->Post

Before you made that post, I had already stated that a Paladin is not an opposite of a Dark Paladin. Yes, Paladins don't have opposites. Nobody said that they do. However, 'light' has an opposite and that opposite can be used to describe a character similar to a Paladin but with an evil moral system. Like I said, the Dark overrides the default light.

You might as well create light necromancer where the light overwrites the darkness of that character

No, because the entire identity of the necromancer is based around raising the dead. It's not something that can normally apply to light characters. Paladins just hit things with swords and cast spells - such concepts can easily apply to either good or evil intent.

This kind of semantic alteration may lead to some strange definitions, but that doesn't invalidate it. It's just simple manipulation of English.

[Discharge]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Indeed it does not, but that point is irrelevant. Nobody said that Dark Paladins are the exact opposite of normal Paladins - they are only opposite in one basic aspect.

Now we have establish that a “dark paladin” is not necessarily a complete opposite of a Paladin. So now, if not a complete opposite then its something else other then what you wish to create which is a dark paladin. It could be a Death Knight, Blackguard or a Necromancer. These three have opposite views of a Paladin and have unholy powers but however they are not Paladins. They are opposites or antis as we could say of a Paladin but they are not, and let me clearly say this once more to engrave this in all of you; they are not Paladins.


*Edited due to error in pasting*

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by Discharge
The relevancy of the post is relevant to me

That makes absolutely no sense.

now we have establish that a “dark paladin” is not necessarily a complete opposite of a Paladin.

Actually I established that a long time ago. You're only just catching up.

So now, if not a complete opposite then its something else other then what you wish to create which is a dark paladin.

No, it's a partial opposite. Identical in many respects, but opposite in others. Just like a black pearl is not the opposite of a white pearl, but is still a pearl.

[Discharge]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Read->Think->Post

Before you made that post, I had already stated that a Paladin is not an opposite of a Dark Paladin. Yes, Paladins don't have opposites. Nobody said that they do. However, 'light' has an opposite and that opposite can be used to describe a character similar to a Paladin but with an evil moral system. Like I said, the Dark overrides the default light.



No, because the entire identity of the necromancer is based around raising the dead. It's not something that can normally apply to light characters. Paladins just hit things with swords and cast spells - such concepts can easily apply to either good or evil intent.

This kind of semantic alteration may lead to some strange definitions, but that doesn't invalidate it. It's just simple manipulation of English.

Kai: Read->Think->Post->Read->Think->Post
Discharge: Read->Think->Post->Read

If you fail to see what I am saying; It is not that I’m not following that so delightful step-by-step posting procedure of yours but while your posting, I’m writing and have not seen what you’ve posted. I only see what your currently saying when I post because when you post which you obviously know, the internet explorer window refreshes the thread therefore allowing you to see the most recent post.

Edit: Ah see there we go again.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by Discharge
If you fail to see what I am saying; It is not that I’m not following that so delightful step-by-step posting procedure of yours but while your posting, I’m writing and have not seen what you’ve posted.

I haven't failed to see anything that you've said. You are the one that has consistently misunderstood my points and ignored my arguments. If you do not see what I have posted then it is your own fault. I'm not hiding my words or writing them in some kind of secret code, they're plainly visible to anybody with eyes.

[Discharge]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


I haven't failed to see anything that you've said. You are the one that has consistently misunderstood my points and ignored my arguments. If you do not see what I have posted then it is your own fault. I'm not hiding my words or writing them in some kind of secret code, they're plainly visible to anybody with eyes.

You not understanding what I'm saying. Here I am writing a post but while I'm writing you've already posted and I didn't catch what you said. So I'm posting something that has already been establish in the previous post which I didn't see.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by Discharge
You not understanding what I'm saying. Here I am writing a post but while I'm writing you've already posted and I didn't catch what you said. So I'm posting something that has already been establish in the previous post which I didn't see.

So here's an idea, Mr Genius:

Before posting, check to see if anybody else has posted anything more while you were typing.

[Discharge]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


So here's an idea, Mr Genius:

Before posting, check to see if anybody else has posted anything more while you were typing.

It has already occurred to me. Its not common for me to have little posting arguments where we post right after another. But thanks for your lovely advice Mr. Moderator.

[Kaimetsu]

Always happy to help.