End of Ages - Page 2

syltburk · #41 04-27-2003, 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by PrinceDark

Don't mind him. He says that about every playerworld that doesn't hire him.

x.x, i havnt even tried out, wtf do you mean by i havnt seen it? i ment the first screenshot, and the one showed now

Milkdude99 · #42 04-27-2003, 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by ETD
Sorry for the double post... but i can't attach this screenshot to my last post...

I went ahead and re-took the house screenshot, exept i made the house wider to show the fireplace (without flame, sorry).

you'll see the new walls, chest, bed, wall boarder, table, and chairs. Also, the pot was changed, so it's not so bright, and the shelves, and book case have been edited to match the newer walls. And NOW you can see the new mat

*edit* also, i took this screenshot, useing the Human interface thingy :P whereas the last shot was taken with the Elvish one.

I think the mat is very nice but if I may make a suggestion. The mat looks to big , the weave on the mat is way to big in contrast to the Player character so it makes the house look more like a doll house instead of the desired effect in my opinion. The weave is out of proportion with the rest of the tiles on the level.

ETD · #43 04-27-2003, 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by syltburk

x.x, i havnt even tried out, wtf do you mean by i havnt seen it? i ment the first screenshot, and the one showed now

umm... you WERE going to help with levels a few months ago... but then you didn't 0.o' i forget why...

and Kyle had posted that he re-made the mat... and you said you didn't like it before i even posted it... it's impossible that you saw that mat before i posted it, because it was never shown to anyone (even EoA staff) before this... and how did you comment on the one i just showed, when your post was before the post with the screenshot?

anyways, thanks for the comment on the mat... x_X
there ARE more tiles in the screenshot, than that mat you know lol
well, Kyle told me last night that he'll work on it... i mean, that was just the first version of the mat anyways =X he can easily edit it later...

also, remember how the tileing is... there's an edge that is 1 tile thick, and the middle is 1 tiles... so it's hard to make a great mat, with the edges 1 tiles thick
:P

syltburk · #44 04-27-2003, 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by ETD

umm... you WERE going to help with levels a few months ago... but then you didn't 0.o' i forget why...

and Kyle had posted that he re-made the mat... and you said you didn't like it before i even posted it... it's impossible that you saw that mat before i posted it, because it was never shown to anyone (even EoA staff) before this... and how did you comment on the one i just showed, when your post was before the post with the screenshot?

anyways, thanks for the comment on the mat... x_X
there ARE more tiles in the screenshot, than that mat you know lol
well, Kyle told me last night that he'll work on it... i mean, that was just the first version of the mat anyways =X he can easily edit it later...

also, remember how the tileing is... there's an edge that is 1 tile thick, and the middle is 1 tiles... so it's hard to make a great mat, with the edges 1 tiles thick
:P

i didnt mean the change of the mat, I MEANT THE LEVEL THAT YOU POSTED IN THE START OF THIS THREAD

OMG GOSH

Spark910 · #45 04-27-2003, 08:24 PM

The main problem is the mat doesnt look too good as the colors blend too much with everything, and the mat its self, there are too many colors. It goes light>verydark so its looks weird.

HoudiniMan · #46 04-27-2003, 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by ETD
also, remember how the tileing is... there's an edge that is 1 tile thick, and the middle is 1 tiles... so it's hard to make a great mat, with the edges 1 tiles thick
:P

This is where many PWs go wrong, grasshopper.
Observe these examples.

If you design those tiles to look like half inside of the mat and half the boarder, problem solved!

You can see the tiles have been changed so it looks like it's only a half-tile. (Black lines are tile boarders)

Im not the best artist, but it gets the point across

Here's a what you'd wind up putting in the tileset (for my design)

It's just one middle tile with 8 tiles around it for the edge designs.

GoZelda · #47 04-27-2003, 11:24 PM

You know what i like about this? It doesn't has all the fancy GUI stuff, and the Tileset isn't completely new. I think i will like it, it looks warm and cozy

HoudiniMan · #48 04-28-2003, 08:40 AM

Yeah it's pretty promising

KyleOdin · #49 04-28-2003, 12:46 PM

I have been busy making lots of new additions and changes to the End of Ages Graphic Pack. Here is a list of just a few of the new changes.

1) Remade the rug but this one is most likely the final version
2) I have added a lot of new detail tiles for snow based levels
3) Fixed some errors in the photoshop master file

Attached is an updated version using the old screenshot level but this time using the new rug and it also has a fire in the fireplace.

Keep the constructive comments, suggestions, and ideas coming our way. You already know what we do with non-constructive ones. ;P

Until Next Time,
- KyleOdin

ETD · #50 05-04-2003, 10:30 PM

Hi

i thought i would post a random snow level... this isn't really to show off, since i am sure we have better ones 0.o' but i thought you guys might want to see the sample

anyways, when you first look at it, you might not notice changes to the tileset... because we have kept it all in the same style, and such.

Some changes are:
-totally new snow house
-new snow swamp grass
-snow bush, mushroom, and other detailing things
-dark brown-to-light brown sand path tiles (not many in this screenshot)
-ice for the water
-different small snow tree
-large snow tree connector tiles
-snow-to-light sand tiles

anyways, here you go, be kind XD

TifaKhan · #51 05-09-2003, 10:30 AM

What can i say
wow!!

Kaimetsu · #52 05-09-2003, 11:42 AM

Too much detail is a bad thing. That snow level just looks cluttered.

GoZelda · #53 05-09-2003, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KyleOdin
I have been busy making lots of new additions and changes to the End of Ages Graphic Pack. Here is a list of just a few of the new changes.

1) Remade the rug but this one is most likely the final version
2) I have added a lot of new detail tiles for snow based levels
3) Fixed some errors in the photoshop master file

Attached is an updated version using the old screenshot level but this time using the new rug and it also has a fire in the fireplace.

Keep the constructive comments, suggestions, and ideas coming our way. You already know what we do with non-constructive ones. ;P

Until Next Time,
- KyleOdin

looks even more warm and cozy with that firepit

Milkdude99 · #54 05-10-2003, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Too much detail is a bad thing. That snow level just looks cluttered.

I agree, kinda looks like my kids rooms..

Anyway to much detail detracts from the level not add to it. There should be some focus of attention in a level and if you have so much in it, it will lose the center of focus thus losing the total effect you are trying to achieve with the level. Mix complexity with simplicity to get a balance of effect and ease of navigation thru the level. Nothing is worse than to have to walk around or over 10 million things just to get thru a level.

ETD · #55 05-12-2003, 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Too much detail is a bad thing. That snow level just looks cluttered.

He's re-making all his snow levels
0.o'
he had a bunch done... but i guess he just wanted to totally re-do them... but i guess he has 3 done now... when i see one of them, i'll post it i guess

thanks for the comments
=)
(he = Zerxus, our LAT Chief)

funnylinkwantsbomys · #56 05-13-2003, 04:30 AM

i wish i could help

im very good at making pixel objects

ETD · #57 05-13-2003, 06:37 AM

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Originally posted by funnylinkwantsbomys
i wish i could help im very good at making pixel objects

well, then contact me, or Kyle... (you can forum PM me)

besides, i know what you can do

*remembers that box NPC*

and we're still looking for VERY good LAT's
=X
there's a lot out there... but unfortunatly most are crappy

screen_name · #58 05-13-2003, 07:05 AM

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Originally posted by Mykel
i talked to ETD on aim, and it seems Chibi gave him the tiles, sry for mixup, =x

Are you sure about that? Or was it ripped from a screen they've seen?

ETD · #59 05-13-2003, 07:53 AM

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Originally posted by screen_name
Are you sure about that? Or was it ripped from a screen they've seen?

technically, we did get them from that screenshot, but i also contacted Terrorbite, and he said we could use them
=)
he said it was good they would actually be put to use
:P

also, he gave us a fishing rod he made (gfx, and gani's anyways) and the gfx for a bowl...
we already made the gfx, and gani's for the fishing rod into an NPC... i dunno if we'll use that bowl though

anyways, i showed him the link to your post... i dunno if he'll be able to contact you about it though 0.o'

ETD · #60 06-12-2003, 09:35 AM

*bumps old thread back up*

just to give people a quick update
=)
we're finnishing up filling in our overworld map (including 3 towns)

quests, and NPC's will be worked on next...

we should be ready to go up privately when the payment options are given...

I am thinking that we will open this summer only offering human as a playable race... then finnish up the dwarf, and elf sections this summer, and open them up (make them playable races) this fall
=)

funnylinkwantsbomys · #61 06-12-2003, 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by ETD
*bumps old thread back up*

just to give people a quick update
=)
we're finnishing up filling in our overworld map (including 3 towns)

quests, and NPC's will be worked on next...

we should be ready to go up privately when the payment options are given...

I am thinking that we will open this summer only offering human as a playable race... then finnish up the dwarf, and elf sections this summer, and open them up (make them playable races) this fall
=)

nice and ps my box was |_|83|¯-/ 31337

draygin · #62 06-12-2003, 04:31 PM

I hope your entire overworld doesnt look like that second level. It looks like complete crap.

Also you do have stolen graphics on there. The little tree that is green with circles. Is from a zelda tileset, I thought it looked familiar and just double checked. If thats stolen I'm willing to bet that other graphics are as well.

draygin · #63 06-12-2003, 04:45 PM

here I cut the section out of the tile set so you can see what I'm talking about. (Note the colors got degraded slightly when I was saving it but in the tileset it is the exact same colors right down to the values. 100%

ETD · #64 06-12-2003, 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by draygin
Is from a zelda tileset, I thought it looked familiar and just double checked. If thats stolen I'm willing to bet that other graphics are as well.

if i'm not mistaken... aren't ALL of the tiles around that tree (in the zelda tileset) on the graal tileset as well? (the tiles to the right, left, and above, and below those 2 trees)... I think it would be kinda odd to say anything bad about this, when all those other tiles are on the graal tileset already...

anyways, i wasn't aware that the tree was the exact same as that tree from zelda... the first person who worked on our tileset did that... she said she was trying to make it look more like zelda, but i didn't think they were direct copies (i still think ours looks a little different/better)

anyways, remember that our tileset has been worked on by about 5 people so far... if there is anything that looks stolen, then just bring it up
=)
if this little tree is a big deal, then we can make a new one, it's not that hard...

draygin · #65 06-12-2003, 05:33 PM

The little tree on the graal tileset looks completely different. The two trees on your tile set and the zelda remake are exactly the same as I previously stated. The only difference between the two is when I cut and pasted it into a gif there was some color loss. Which I already stated in my previous post. How could it not be a big deal?

ETD · #66 06-12-2003, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by draygin
The little tree on the graal tileset looks completely different.
....
How could it not be a big deal?

did you totally miss what i said in my post?
0.o'
i said all the OTHER tiles, AROUND those trees are copied into the graal tileset... see my point now?
if all those other tiles are allowed to be used on graal, why not the trees?
=x
and like i said, it wouldn't be hard to just get one of my GAT's to make a new one...

draygin · #67 06-12-2003, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by ETD

did you totally miss what i said in my post?
0.o'
i said all the OTHER tiles, AROUND those trees are copied into the graal tileset... see my point now?
if all those other tiles are allowed to be used on graal, why not the trees?
=x
and like i said, it wouldn't be hard to just get one of my GAT's to make a new one...

No you're not making any sense.

The tiles I was showing are not in the graal tile set. They are stolen from a completely different tile set. There may very well be other stolen tiles in your tile set thats just the one that stood out when I looked at the screen shot. You cant use the tree because it is Stolen. Is there something about this you're not getting?

ETD · #68 06-12-2003, 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by draygin
No you're not making any sense.

Oy, ok, let me say this 1 more time...

the tiles AROUND the 2 trees you showed in that sample of the zelda tileset are in the graal tileset. they are 'stolen' as well, see my point? in the sample you showed, ALL those tiles ARE on the current graal tileset, EXACTLY the same as they are on the zelda tileset.... exept those trees.

the tree you see in the screenshot i showed is just 1 version of it... we have edited it to fit into different themed areas, and stuff like that... we have about 5 versions of that tree in the tileset, along with other small plants that are not shown in that screenshot (since it's so old)

i knew that the tree was supposed to look like the zelda tree, but no-one had pointed out that it was an exact copy before.. if i has known then i would have done something about it
0.o'
I talked to the person who added that tree to the tileset, and she said she edited it to make it look better... and she said what's the difference if most of the rest of the graal tileset is taken from zelda, why not 1 more tile? (well, 4)

this isn't such a big deal... we can replace it with new graphics if we are forced to... and there is nothing 'stolen' on our tileset... at least not that i know of, and if there is, then don't be shy about pointing it out...

just don't judge a whole tileset based on 4 tiles
0.o'

draygin · #69 06-12-2003, 07:51 PM

Those tiles I pointed out are not in the graal tileset. If they are please show me where. The images I showed are from a tileset some one made to look like zelda graphics. Ripping off some one elses graphics and changing 10 pixels does not make it a new graphic. I was not showing a screen shot of the graal tileset but a custom one that some one made. That would be like me taking Shifting Ages, or Konidias's tilesets changing a few pixels and saying hey this is my work thats going up in my playerworld.

ETD · #70 06-12-2003, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by draygin
Is from a zelda tileset

....

Quote:

Originally posted by draygin
The images I showed are from a tileset some one made to look like zelda graphics.

ok, so you DIDN'T take that section out of a zelda tileset
0.o'
thanks for clearing that up...

so now you're saying that we have a tree, that's the same as a tree a friend of yours put in his tileset to make it look like zelda?

didn't i just say that the person who added this tree was trying to make it look like zelda?

why don't you show the actual zelda tree? are they the exact same? also, maybe we got this tree from the same person? =0
who made that tileset you cut from?

DarkShadows_Legend · #71 06-12-2003, 08:05 PM

Both of these trees are from the SNES Zelda 3 A link to the past

ETD · #72 06-12-2003, 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by DarkShadows_Legend
Both of these trees are from the SNES Zelda 3 A link to the past

thanks
=)
well, i'll ask the PWA what they think... if they have a problem with it, then i guess we'll just make a new kind of chair, and small tree
=X
anyways, now that that's over
0.o'
anyone have anything else to say?
lol

DarkShadows_Legend · #73 06-12-2003, 08:23 PM

comment about Everworld and End of Ages merging into a huge playerworld. O.O

draygin · #74 06-12-2003, 08:27 PM

I doubt it he quit graal a coupe years ago. (Glenn) He made it by playing the game and drawing it from that. I would show the entire tile set which is huge but I don't want people taking stuff out of it. =X

ETD · #75 06-12-2003, 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by DarkShadows_Legend
comment about Everworld and End of Ages merging into a huge playerworld. O.O

ok, not really a 'huge' player world...

basically, if you took Everworld, and split it into 2 sections...

section 1: anything EoA can use, like quests, and some NPC's
section 2: anything that won't fit our theme

basically EoA will take section one, and Arc will use section 2 in his new PW project
=)
we'll be taking in a few of their staff (who were all pretty much staff on my server anyways), and Arc will become Admin, or asst. manager (not sure yet)

that's the summery
=)

DarkShadows_Legend · #76 06-12-2003, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by draygin
I doubt it he quit graal a coupe years ago. (Glenn) He made it by playing the game and drawing it from that. I would show the entire tile set which is huge but I don't want people taking stuff out of it. =X

Is that the same Glenn that used the account Gokou4?

draygin · #77 06-12-2003, 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by DarkShadows_Legend

Is that the same Glenn that used the account Gokou4?

No he used Birdbirds Birdbird_2 and later valder's second account Valder_2 his real name was Vance if that helps at all. (might have the two accounts reversed on which one he used.) But he hasnt played in at least a year and a half. At least since Providence and Andor where both still p2p and classic accounts where free.

TripleE · #78 06-13-2003, 02:51 AM

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Originally posted by draygin

No he used Birdbirds Birdbird_2 and later valder's second account Valder_2 his real name was Vance if that helps at all. (might have the two accounts reversed on which one he used.) But he hasnt played in at least a year and a half. At least since Providence and Andor where both still p2p and classic accounts where free.

Yeah I havent seen him on in a while. He was a pretty cool guy. I wish he could come back and post some of his work. I miss seeing his talent. Well atleast I liked it,I dont know how mnay others did.

CasanovaCanavi · #79 08-16-2003, 06:57 AM

Sence the people who offered to pay for this server never did *Cough* Nova *Cough*, I'm gonna pay.. But I have no idea how.. I know you have to go to Graal.net and everything, I got a account and stuff, but I have no idea where to go.. Some help would be nice.. o.o..

I tired forum pming people, but I guess I'm not important enough to be answered, oh well, I'll just post.. :o

190 · #80 08-16-2003, 09:52 AM

You get an E-mail. And you work from there.

-Eagle