Sanstrata

[davidpsy]

Nemesis has said the following

"Dude doesn't matter to me....

whoever gets it done gets it done."
"The objective is to
make your own world...not remake something that someone did
and take credit for their work and their innovation. That shows to
me, how little you think and how crappy you are creatively not to
make something of your own"
"Remaking a server...tells me you cannot be innovative and
creative on your own.
Thus you lose points just for resubmitting something that
someone else created"
"It's not his work....it's like stealing plans and completing someone
elses dream, you put the work in to do it, but still the idea and
everything is not yours...you just added the missing pieces and
claimed it as your own"

Nemesis not only have I got the support of the one that created sans and I work with him and he not only feels that I am the one to lead his playerwolrd but I have come up with many ideas of my own and I am very close to finshing a whole tileset.

Also I have added 150 levels that are new to sans over half of sans. I do also have the support of jinx and sabin 2 other owners of Sans and jinx who was an owner of sans and a well respected member of the pwa. I am trying to finsh sans as quickly as I can I only wish you would see that I am not stealing anyones work and that maybe you would understand that I should be the one to bring back sans and not this other group of people who only want power.

[prozac424242]

As co-creator and former owner of Sanstrata,
i do fully support Donald Shimoda's work on this playerworld.

There will be more than sufficently new features
to Sanstrata to attract players old and new,
as well as an advancement to the storyline.

Its kind of like why are there three separate Lord of the Rings
books? Why make use the same setting and story?
because enough has changed and it becomes so much more
involed and exciting.

This is just the next chapter in the life of sanstrata,
its being ressurected from the dead and becoming glorified.

Trust me, it will be worth it!

Prozac

[BryanluvsJulia]

post screenshots

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by BryanluvsJulia
post screenshots

I will I am very close to finshing the tileset.

[Zarko]

I agree, and fully support Donald on his decision, not only is he bringing back the greatest server that ever lived, he's not taking any credit for the levels already made. And yes, screenshots are always good.

[ETD]

well, i'd just like to say, those were quotes by Nem... things he told me, when i asked him about this situation...

i showed them to David, and then he posted it...

i did not wish for them to be posted, and i asked for him not to post it, since it was ment to be comments to him, and not to everyone...

but he felt that he needed to post the quotes, to show proof that that was what Nem said...

anyways, i just wanted to say that
=/

[AlexH]

Does it really matter?
Your basically making a new player world.
Fair enough you may be using some of the stuff that was on Sanstrata but that doesn't make it that server.
Your creating a new server and slapping that name on it.

Like many have said, by bringing back a player world you will not get the fun you had from playing it then.
The community is what makes a player world.

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by AlexH
Does it really matter?
Your basically making a new player world.
Fair enough you may be using some of the stuff that was on Sanstrata but that doesn't make it that server.
Your creating a new server and slapping that name on it.

Like many have said, by bringing back a player world you will not get the fun you had from playing it then.
The community is what makes a player world.

Yes it does matter I love sans. I would not do all this work and not call it sans it is sans and that is what it is!

[Dude6252000]

Originally posted by davidpsy

Yes it does matter I love sans. I would not do all this work and not call it sans it is sans and that is what it is!

It's not sans without it's community, Donald. Think. What if your server because huge, but no one you knew or used to play was there? Or what if the server was somehow a failure and there was no one except a few people that plays it? Community is everything.

Originally posted by davidpsy
Nemesis not only have I got the support of the one that created sans and I work with him and he not only feels that I am the one to lead his playerwolrd but I have come up with many ideas of my own and I am very close to finshing a whole tileset.

Oh wow, new tileset. Everyone has them nowadays.

Originally posted by davidpsy
Also I have added 150 levels that are new to sans over half of sans. I do also have the support of Kaimetsu and of jinx and sabin 2 other owners of Sans and jinx who was an owner of sans and a well respected member of the pwa. I am trying to finsh sans as quickly as I can I only wish you would see that I am not stealing anyones work and that maybe you would understand that I should be the one to bring back sans and not this other group of people who only want power.

The amount of levels never really matter, the quality does. Quality > Quantity. And how do you know they want power? And it doesn't really matter who finishes first, if this guy isn't lying. Just change the name ;\

[AlexH]

Originally posted by davidpsy

Yes it does matter I love sans. I would not do all this work and not call it sans it is sans and that is what it is!

Okay I'll use something I know about.
Music.

Guns N Roses were great.
Slash (lead guitarist) left so they got a new guitarist.
They're still Guns N Roses but they're not the Guns N Roses that so many of the fans grew to love. So in millions of fans eyes they will never be the same without Slash.

Another example?

Iron Maiden.
****inson (lead vocals) left. So they got a new vocalist. He was good, well he was okay, but again it was not the same without ****inson. Maiden wern't as good without him, most fans I know feel this way too, and when he came back Maiden started to pick up again and become the band the fans wanted.

So cutting it short it does matter.
Without everything you had back then, the community, levels, NPCs etc you arn't going to get the enjoyment you want back.
Simple as that.


x.x I can't even say Bruce full name without the damn filter filtering it out.

[davidpsy]

Ah lol but you see I talk to all my friends from sans everyday on aim and they are just waiting for me to finshs sans so they can buy an accout.

[Dude6252000]

Originally posted by davidpsy
Ah lol but you see I talk to all my friends from sans everyday on aim and they are just waiting for me to finshs sans so they can buy an accout.

Yeah, your friends. But what if only your friends come? x.x That's what I'm trying to say. All the people that used to play probably won't come back, except your friends, because they know about this and want to pay.

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by Dude6252000

Yeah, your friends. But what if only your friends come? x.x That's what I'm trying to say. All the people that used to play probably won't come back, except your friends, because they know about this and want to pay.

Trust me a lot more then my friends will come just let me finsh the tile set and take a snapshot youl see what I mean .

[warp2ukew]

im not exactly sure what this is about but i back donald up all the way. hes been working on this for a very long time and deserves to do what he wants with sans (especially with prozacs permission)

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by warp2ukew
im not exactly sure what this is about but i back donald up all the way. hes been working on this for a very long time and deserves to do what he wants with sans (especially with prozacs permission)

Thank you =D. Please people if you support me say so. I'm sure if you keep supporting me Nemesis will change his mind. Either that or ill finsh sans out of worry and depression. Either way it gets done .

Also Nemesis you say I am not being creative because I am rebuilding sanstrata. Yet does that mean people who rebuild old cars and houses are not creative either? Are you saying that new playerwolrds are not based on other servers ideas? They certainly are. Take cycical for an example.

I like many other people loved sanstrata and felt terrible when it was taken down due to ebil haxors. The difference is I went and did something about this. I have worked for many months with the original author and owner of Sanstrata to rebuild it and make it better, creatively standing on the shoulders of Prozac who I admire and respect for creating the ogrinal Sanstrata. Through a creative collaboration with Prozac the new sanstrata will be better then ever. Yet you say I am not being creative........
Why? Because I choose to work in collaboration and cooperation with Prozac rather than to steal/copy/borrow or otherwise use others work without Contacting them or having their support.

[PrinceDark]

Nemesis has been on one bad PMS trip lately. I think he needs a permanent vacation from PWA, but that's my opinion.

That'll suck if you guys have to lose points because of the pw being a remake. Everything seems to be going great and you guys are working hard . I wish you good luck on your mission through your upcoming battles.

[Dude6252000]

Originally posted by davidpsy

Trust me a lot more then my friends will come just let me finsh the tile set and take a snapshot youl see what I mean .

The tileset doesn't control the community, Donald. It mearly is usualy ignored after the first day on the server.

[Ethic_Sern]

Originally posted by warp2ukew
im not exactly sure what this is about but i back donald up all the way. hes been working on this for a very long time and deserves to do what he wants with sans (especially with prozacs permission)

We should get Sabin working again break out the old whips and get jinxy too =p

[Kinatt]

Originally posted by Dude6252000

The tileset doesn't control the community, Donald. It mearly is usualy ignored after the first day on the server.

shut up, your just a *******. It is not ignored past the first day. It is very respectable to have created your own than used the original, seriously.. and not everyone has them now n days, the only one that I know of is era you dumb****. Why do you have to be so god damn negative? You *******. ****ing retarded comments which really have no basis to be here, other than you wanting to put him down. Community is everything and it won't have the original community, but a community can be built you are basing all of your information on subjective things that probably aren't even backed up by facts. He knows what is on sanstrata, YOU don't.. so shut the **** up and wait before you start throwing these uneducated lame ass comments his way ok?

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by Kinatt


shut up, your just a *******. It is not ignored past the first day. It is very respectable to have created your own than used the original, seriously.. and not everyone has them now n days, the only one that I know of is era you dumb****. Why do you have to be so god damn negative? You *******. ****ing retarded comments which really have no basis to be here, other than you wanting to put him down. Community is everything and it won't have the original community, but a community can be built you are basing all of your information on subjective things that probably aren't even backed up by facts. He knows what is on sanstrata, YOU don't.. so shut the **** up and wait before you start throwing these uneducated lame ass comments his way ok?

Couldent of said it better my self lol. Here ill post a snapshot sorry I have to save it bmp for it to upload..

[AlexH]

Well it's betetr than I expected.
But still it's not great.

The trees look kinda odd, as if they have been built in segments. You'll wanna get rid of the dark green rings round them.

The house is the worst thing though.
It just looks as though it has been slapped on and looks way too flat.
I suggest completly redoing it.

And the path doesn't suit that level, but that's just bad tiling choice in my opinion.

The grass and the water look nice though and with a little work the tree could be good.

But I'm still sticking by my initial comment.
EVen if you do get it up you will not be getting what you really want.

[syltburk]

x.x, shade the house that the water cliffs, they doesnt look realistic at all, trees look odd, it look like a spinning ice cream.


i love the water, it look realy nice

[Dude6252000]

Originally posted by Kinatt


shut up, your just a *******. It is not ignored past the first day. It is very respectable to have created your own than used the original, seriously.. and not everyone has them now n days, the only one that I know of is era you dumb****. Why do you have to be so god damn negative? You *******. ****ing retarded comments which really have no basis to be here, other than you wanting to put him down. Community is everything and it won't have the original community, but a community can be built you are basing all of your information on subjective things that probably aren't even backed up by facts. He knows what is on sanstrata, YOU don't.. so shut the **** up and wait before you start throwing these uneducated lame ass comments his way ok?

What did that come from? I was stating my opinions. One person. I'm not trying to speak for the whole community. And was cussing me out necessary? Did you really have to call me a dumb****, when you're just backfiring on yourself making yourself look embarassed after I point out why I said that? One opinion is one opinion, if you don't like it, ignore it. If you want to work on a server, and you get one bad comment, and you fling into action mode like this, you shouldn't be working. At ALL. And everything I say isn't always negative. I just don't have many comments without a picture of something. My comments aren't retarded, and you shouldn't be talking, for christ's sake, you stated before that you're TRYING to get hated. You're succeeding. And my comments have a basis. Your's don't. "lol my server rox jjl rlolorlorlorll". Does that sound intelligent, Mr. Know-it-all? Hey, I didn't HAVE facts to back my opinion up, because I had no picture. Could you imagine that? Wait, I'm sorry, you're too busy with JJL. And you just stated, I don't know about Sans. You're right. Thats why I made that statement before, I needed more info.

Now I have it.

Nice tileset, Donald Sorry I thought you were wrong. It's awesome, that I know won't be overlooked on the first day

And no, I wont shut up, you should. You just embarassed the hell out of yourself by me arguing with TRUE comments. Not non-educated ones. Sorry, I'm just a simple writer/smart guy. Go back to working on JJL, and take YOUR bad comments with you. And, this is how I sum up this argument:

[Kinatt]

Originally posted by Dude6252000

What did that come from?

From your constant negativity towards Davidspy.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

I was stating my opinions. One person. I'm not trying to speak for the whole community.

I know it was your opinions however they were not backed up with hard facts at all, just your lack of knowledge on how people view things. Yes and you sir should keep quiet you may not be speaking for the whole community because they probably don't see things so half empty as you do either. *******.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

And was cussing me out necessary? Did you really have to call me a dumb****, when you're just backfiring on yourself making yourself look embarassed after I point out why I said that?

Cussing you out wasn't necessary just really fun. Calling you a dumb**** was necessary I was stating my observations of your posts.. and I can conclude that yes sir, you are a dumb****. I really don't think anything I post in these forums will backfire, or make me embarrassed considering all the things I have ever posted here.. anyone with a half a brain obviously knows I really don't care about embarassing myself. However I did no such thing up there, you just embarass yourself by not stopping to post. survey says? you are a dumb****

Originally posted by Dude6252000

One opinion is one opinion, if you don't like it, ignore it. If you want to work on a server, and you get one bad comment, and you fling into action mode like this, you shouldn't be working. At ALL.

An opinion is an opinion, however I really didn't see any opinions with educated reasoning. I will not ignore it because I can build my posts up by arguing with your ******* self. Well basically my server JJL will not have anything put up to allow people like your ******* self to respond to with things completely irrelevant and having nothing at all to do with the popular majority. Your opinion is like the independent party of the US, really not much at all. You dumb****.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

And everything I say isn't always negative. I just don't have many comments without a picture of something.

You sure as hell do talk alot, yea you are being negative to someone that needs support for something that means alot to him, Basically what your saying really has no basis other THAN BEING NEGATIVE and getting a rise out of him. Graphics are not everything, If you need a picture to accurately judge a playerworld then you sir are a dumb****. . oh wait that's already been concluded. A playerworld is more than just graphics it is also scripting and levels, and planning. Graphics are just eye candy they really can't justify the game completely. They get you to say oooh and aww.. thats it.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

My comments aren't retarded, and you shouldn't be talking, for christ's sake, you stated before that you're TRYING to get hated.

Your comments are retarded, INCREDIBLY retarded. They have no facts, just some lame pre-teen talking about **** he doesn't even know about. You don't know diddly **** about anything. Keep your goddamn mouth shut and let intelligent people speak. Saying goes:

Don't let the alligator mouth overload your hummingbird ass.

you dumb****.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

You're succeeding. And my comments have a basis. Your's don't. "lol my server rox jjl rlolorlorlorll". Does that sound intelligent, Mr. Know-it-all?

Sir, the fact that you cannot tell that I am sometimes speaking seriously and sometimes just trying to get gullible people like you to respond with flames.. is incredibly depressing. I would of thought even the simplest minds could understand the difference between my serious and silly posts? Oh wait, that's right your a dumb****.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

Hey, I didn't HAVE facts to back my opinion up, because I had no picture. Could you imagine that?

You didn't have facts then you shouldn't of stated an opinion on the matter.. you basically went into this discussion with absolutely no idea about what the **** you were talking about and posted complete negativity about anything and everything you did not know about. Could I imagine that? Please.. I don't have to I have an idiot right here posting that.. you dumb****.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

Wait, I'm sorry, you're too busy with JJL.

When im on forums I am obviously not working on JJL .. come on show alittle bit of sense here.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

And you just stated, I don't know about Sans. You're right. Thats why I made that statement before, I needed more info.

Then WHY THE **** DID YOU POST ALL THESE BASHES ON SANS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ANY FACTS? god damn you just admitted your a dumb****.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

Now I have it.

Nice tileset, Donald Sorry I thought you were wrong. It's awesome, that I know won't be overlooked on the first day

Ok, now that is more educated. see if you would of complained now.. it would of been appropriate. Since you needed PICTURES to judge a playerworld.. not actually PLAYING it. ugh.. yea your still a dumb****.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

And no, I wont shut up..

That's obvious your still talking.. god can someone get this guy some anti dumb**** in a can?

Originally posted by Dude6252000
You just embarassed the hell out of yourself by me arguing with TRUE comments.

You just corrected yourself saying you were wrong and that davidspy is right, and now your saying what you said is true? give me a break now your just going back in forth on your opinions. Again with the embarrassed.. I am not.. and cannot be embarrassed on these forums, in order for someone to be embarrassed I would have to care what you people think of me.. oh look at that. I don't too bad for you.. again your wrong.

Yes you are just still proving your a dumb****.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

Sorry, I'm just a simple writer/smart guy.

Simple? yes.. smart? That is hilarious. I have seen for a fact that you are probably the polar opposite of smart. Dumb****.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

Go back to working on JJL, and take YOUR bad comments with you. And, this is how I sum up this argument:

For one thing my bad comments are directed at you personally, for being such an incompetent dumb**** who needs to be smacked upside the head with a shovel. You put a picture of a bull with his horn up a guys rectum and expect that to be the end of it? Again, Survey says: DUMB****

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by AlexH
Well it's betetr than I expected.
But still it's not great.

The trees look kinda odd, as if they have been built in segments. You'll wanna get rid of the dark green rings round them.

The house is the worst thing though.
It just looks as though it has been slapped on and looks way too flat.
I suggest completly redoing it.

And the path doesn't suit that level, but that's just bad tiling choice in my opinion.

The grass and the water look nice though and with a little work the tree could be good.

But I'm still sticking by my initial comment.
EVen if you do get it up you will not be getting what you really want.

Well thanks But I think the trees are ok since sans is not really earth they are different trees. as for the house and path way I'm gonna work on they I'm not very happy with them so ill see what I can do.

[Dude6252000]

From your constant negativity towards Davidspy.

And you don't have negativity towards others? Oh please.

I know it was your opinions however they were not backed up with hard facts at all, just your lack of knowledge on how people view things. Yes and you sir should keep quiet you may not be speaking for the whole community because they probably don't see things so half empty as you do either. *******.

Lack of knowledge? Okay. Whatever. I'm not empty.

Cussing you out wasn't necessary just really fun. Calling you a dumb**** was necessary I was stating my observations of your posts.. and I can conclude that yes sir, you are a dumb****. I really don't think anything I post in these forums will backfire, or make me embarrassed considering all the things I have ever posted here.. anyone with a half a brain obviously knows I really don't care about embarassing myself. However I did no such thing up there, you just embarass yourself by not stopping to post. survey says? you are a dumb****

Fun? Immature. It's a better word for it. Try it out. And it wasn't necessary. How many times to you have to use the phrase "dumb****"? And I know you don't care about embarassing yourself, you said you wanted to be hated. It's working. And that last sentence made me laugh, that's 3 times you used dumb**** now. Immature.

An opinion is an opinion, however I really didn't see any opinions with educated reasoning. I will not ignore it because I can build my posts up by arguing with your ******* self. Well basically my server JJL will not have anything put up to allow people like your ******* self to respond to with things completely irrelevant and having nothing at all to do with the popular majority. Your opinion is like the independent party of the US, really not much at all. You dumb****.

I know you don't see educated reasons, because apparently you don't know what they are. You arguing is like me arguing with my brother. Easy to win and pointless on your side. JJL will never be put up, because that was just another sign of your immaturity. And yes, my talking has a LOT to do with the community. Trust me. And that's 4 times. Counting.

You sure as hell do talk alot, yea you are being negative to someone that needs support for something that means alot to him, Basically what your saying really has no basis other THAN BEING NEGATIVE and getting a rise out of him. Graphics are not everything, If you need a picture to accurately judge a playerworld then you sir are a dumb****. . oh wait that's already been concluded. A playerworld is more than just graphics it is also scripting and levels, and planning. Graphics are just eye candy they really can't justify the game completely. They get you to say oooh and aww.. thats it.

I had no support, you expect me to be godly and see the future? No one's perfect, Mr. Kinatt. And apparently, I don't think you'd ever be able to work on a server, you can't even take my one bad comment, that I corrected in my last post. There you go with the pictures again. What, you expect me to know what a tileset looks like with no gfx? Oh, 5 times now. And yes, a playerworld is planning. But I don't know the planning of it, do I, Dr. Smart. Graphics, well, without them, there would be no screen. At all. Not even text. And gfx ARE important.

Your comments are retarded, INCREDIBLY retarded. They have no facts, just some lame pre-teen talking about **** he doesn't even know about. You don't know diddly **** about anything. Keep your goddamn mouth shut and let intelligent people speak. Saying goes:

Don't be talking, your's are more "INCREDIBLY retarded" than mine. And what's wrong with being pre-teen? What if I didn't reveal my age, and you all thought I was still 16? You would instantly lose another reason to make a lame attempt to argue with me. I know a lot. Don't be dissing my knowledge. I know "diddly ****" about a lot. HEY, OH, You're speaking, crap, you shouldn't be, you're not intelligent if you're even trying to argue with me about this. I corrected myself.

Don't let the alligator mouth overload your hummingbird ass.

you dumb****.

That makes no sense, and I've never heard it before. That just came out of "your hummingbird ass", didn't it? Oh, 6.

Sir, the fact that you cannot tell that I am sometimes speaking seriously and sometimes just trying to get gullible people like you to respond with flames.. is incredibly depressing. I would of thought even the simplest minds could understand the difference between my serious and silly posts? Oh wait, that's right your a dumb****.

You speak seriously? Hah. Okay. Think what you want. And I'm not flaming, I'm simply stating a point, that I stated already. I want you to STOP making a pointless flame war on me. And what does me being gullible have to do with anything? Wow, you're "intelligent". And to me, all your posts are "silly". You act like an idiot in 99% of your posts, so I already assume when I see the name "Kinatt" making a post, that it's you being stupid again. Hey, 7 times!

You didn't have facts then you shouldn't of stated an opinion on the matter.. you basically went into this discussion with absolutely no idea about what the **** you were talking about and posted complete negativity about anything and everything you did not know about. Could I imagine that? Please.. I don't have to I have an idiot right here posting that.. you dumb****.

I stated my opinion because on all the current PWs, tilesets are usually overlooked and ignored. I didn't make a discussion, you did, cussing me out. In other, SIMPLER words, you started this whole discussion. End it. I posted "negativity" because I had no picture. Now I do. I corrected my opinion. Hey, I stated that, what, like 3 times now? Immature and repetative, are we? There's 8.

When im on forums I am obviously not working on JJL .. come on show alittle bit of sense here.

What does that have to do with anything?

Then WHY THE **** DID YOU POST ALL THESE BASHES ON SANS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ANY FACTS? god damn you just admitted your a dumb****.

Bashes? I had no facts, ever heard of "assuming"? The old sans wasn't all that great, honestly, and I thought it would just be old sans with a new look. This looks better now. Go donald! And no, I didn't admit that. 9 times.

Ok, now that is more educated. see if you would of complained now.. it would of been appropriate. Since you needed PICTURES to judge a playerworld.. not actually PLAYING it. ugh.. yea your still a dumb****.

I never complained. I said one sentence that relates to current playerworlds. Sans is the future. Again, I'm not some mind reading god. Pictures help show what something is, so you just don't get "its a big world with cool stuff" and not see anything. 10 times now, by the way. Immature.

That's obvious your still talking.. god can someone get this guy some anti dumb**** in a can?

11 times. All I have to say on that one.

You just corrected yourself saying you were wrong and that davidspy is right, and now your saying what you said is true? give me a break now your just going back in forth on your opinions. Again with the embarrassed.. I am not.. and cannot be embarrassed on these forums, in order for someone to be embarrassed I would have to care what you people think of me.. oh look at that. I don't too bad for you.. again your wrong.

Yes you are just still proving your a dumb****.

I'm going back and forth? I said, so many times now, I like the tileset. This isn't even your tileset, and of course, now that I like it, you still flame me. Smaaartt. I know you're not embarassed. You like being hated. So me posting is just fun for you. 12 times, by the way.

Simple? yes.. smart? That is hilarious. I have seen for a fact that you are probably the polar opposite of smart. Dumb****.

Polar opposite of smart. Okay. Whatever. Sorry that I act like smart teenager, even though hence my age, I shouldn't be, because to you, age is everything. 13.

For one thing my bad comments are directed at you personally, for being such an incompetent dumb**** who needs to be smacked upside the head with a shovel. You put a picture of a bull with his horn up a guys rectum and expect that to be the end of it? Again, Survey says: DUMB****

14. And no, that picture was just summing up what the end of this argument would be. The bull being me. Oh, 15.

All I got out of that whole thing was that you think I'm a "dumb****", and therefore, stated that 15 times. You say I'm not intelligent. Or mature. Look at you. 15 times saying the same repetative thing. Cussing me out again. Immature. Okay, now just stop this whole flame war, Kinatt. You started it, you clean it up, and admit, I corrected myself, and I'm now right. Okay?

[davidpsy]

Hey guys can we stop having huge ass logical posts flaming each other? Cause this is about how Nemesis should allow only me to go up....

[Dude6252000]

Originally posted by davidpsy
Hey guys can we stop having huge ass logical posts flaming each other? Cause this is about how Nemesis should allow only me to go up....

Well, I'm done arguing, it just depends if Kinatt is going to lash out on me again and continue this flame fight. And I don't think the thread has much to do with anything, isn't there an application thing you send to him over e-mail?

[davidpsy]

Well guys I made a new path err my dad made it and its very nice I think. I'm working on a new house and the next snapshot will have the new bodys =D.

[Kinatt]

Originally posted by Dude6252000

And you don't have negativity towards others? Oh please.[/i]

That really has nothing to do with this flame war now does it?

Originally posted by Dude6252000
Lack of knowledge? Okay. Whatever. I'm not empty.

Yea lack of knowledge as I proved my last post which you completely ignored most of my points and just put down silly remarks in a feeble attempt at making yourself look smart which obviously failed. Empty? I don't know if your empty but dumb? I think I already proved that 15 times on my last post.

Originally posted by Dude6252000
Fun? Immature. It's a better word for it.

Fun yes, Immature maybe. But the basis of this is your lack of intelligence, don't try and turn your incomprehensive statements around on me. The obvious factor here is your compulsive behavior to post without knowing hard facts (aka as you put it.. pictures).

Originally posted by Dude6252000

Try it out.

Try out the word immature? That makes no sense, how can I try out the word immature? Your so full of **** your starting to drip it.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

And it wasn't necessary. How many times to you have to use the phrase "dumb****"?

As many times as it takes until you realize your a dumb****. You dumb****.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

And I know you don't care about embarassing yourself, you said you wanted to be hated. It's working.

Then why did you keep saying that I was going to be embarassed/currently being embarassed if you KNOW that I can't be embarassed? god damn your just constantly spewing out statements which are so damn contradictory to your previous statements. Hated? yea It makes people give emotion towards me and thus kind of like taking energy from them. It's fun. I am the bad guy in the forums, atleast I try to be.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

And that last sentence made me laugh, that's 3 times you used dumb**** now. Immature.

That sentence made me laugh too, what I was doing is actually a literary type. Where you end with the same thing after each paragraph to get your point across.. Mine may have been simple but to the average intelligent reader they got what my point was.. basically pointing out the blatent obvious nature of your less than intelligent self.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

An opinion is an opinion

[condescending sarcasm]Are you serious? I never knew.. [/condescending sarcasm]

Originally posted by Dude6252000

however I really didn't see any opinions with educated reasoning.

I kind of guessed that, you have probably been surrounded by *****s your entire. Would not surprise me one bit if your entire family is the way you are. I mean what other way to explain how you have not seen any opinions with educated reasoning.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

I know you don't see educated reasons, because apparently you don't know what they are.

Guy, you know what.. if an educated reason hit you in the head you probably still wouldn't know what one is. Me knowing what they are? I never could of held this flame war this long if I didn't know what they are. Nor could I have put you down for this long if I didn't know what they were.. so please keep giving me the fuel to light this flame war.. respond again please.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

You arguing is like me arguing with my brother. Easy to win and pointless on your side. JJL will never be put up, because that was just another sign of your immaturity. And yes, my talking has a LOT to do with the community. Trust me. And that's 4 times. Counting.

Yea the only difference between me arguing with you and you arguing with your brother is one simple facet, I have twice the brain power of your brother and you combined I can own you up one street and down the other blindfolded and tied to a lawnmower.. and still beat you in an argument.

Originally posted by Dude6252000
I had no support, you expect me to be godly and see the future?

No one would probably give you support because your such a incoherant ass monkey. Anyone expect you to be godly?? No.. hardly just smart enough to understand the threads basics before you post.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

No one's perfect, Mr. Kinatt. And apparently, I don't think you'd ever be able to work on a server, you can't even take my one bad comment, that I corrected in my last post.

No one is perfect.. Mr. Dude6252000:rollseyes:. Apparently? you are now stating that it is blatently obvious that I cannot work on a server? Excuse me but I have worked on more than my fair share of servers. I did a very good job and I have atleast 100 people who agree with me on that, and basically seeing you.. yet again say something without knowing the facts is just proving my point that you are undisputed as king ***** on these forums.. atleast currently.

Originally posted by Dude6252000
There you go with the pictures again. What, you expect me to know what a tileset looks like with no gfx?

The pictures? You said you needed the pictures to accurately judge a playerworld, not me. So don't try and turn it around again on me.. because this isn't about me it's about your lack of understanding how playerworlds work and the psychology of the average player. I never said I expected you to know what a tileset looked like without graphics.. now your imagining things.. someone get this guy some medicine.. I think hes seeing things.. again.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

Oh, 5 times now. And yes, a playerworld is planning. But I don't know the planning of it, do I, Dr. Smart. Graphics, well, without them, there would be no screen. At all. Not even text. And gfx ARE important.

Ok you can continue counting it's really great that you can count really it is, but as I stated before its a literary response style im sorry if you have the lack of knowledge to understand that.. Playerworld yes..repeat what I said it makes you look smart do that more.. and maybe agree with me too. Dr. Smart? Well. .I would say I am not Dr. Smart.. more like Dr. evil.. who tries to put down the idiots. Graphics? Yes I stated their importance im sorry if you didn't understand what i posted.. But I hardly said they had no importance as you so implied.. next time read what I put then answer.. You can't skip step 1 and expect to do it properly.

Originally posted by Dude6252000
Don't be talking, your's are more "INCREDIBLY retarded" than mine. And what's wrong with being pre-teen?

What is wrong with being a preteen? Nothing.. I just think they shouldn't be trying to play with the big boys when it comes to certain issues.. and they shouldn't try to pretend they are smart and put down things they know nothing about.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

What if I didn't reveal my age, and you all thought I was still 16?
You would instantly lose another reason to make a lame attempt to argue with me. I know a lot. Don't be dissing my knowledge. I know "diddly ****" about a lot.

If you were 16? just replace pre-teen with disgruntled teenager. It would hardly get rid of a reason to make an argument with you, because I could find a bunch of ways to get into an argument with you.. hell some I could even make up. You say you know alot? well in that "alot" playerworlds is not a factor. I am just pointing out flaws in your knowledge, you may see it as disrespectful I see it as incredibly fun. And you also stated you know diddly squat about alot? What you just stated is, you know little about alot.. so your education is just basically you knowing alittle about everything.. so you know alittle about playerworlds.. so technically you should have never posted in these forums.. you have just said it.. I did not.

[Kinatt]

Originally posted by Dude6252000

HEY, OH, You're speaking, crap, you shouldn't be, you're not intelligent if you're even trying to argue with me about this. I corrected myself.

I am speaking crap? Anyone who is reading this argument with half a brain can understand that I am winning this, although it may be pointless.. you are an idiot.. plain and simple. You corrected yourself? what correction did you make? Did you basically say I void all that I said before and Sans really looks good and I never should of said those things without further knowledge of the project? If so.. just say Yes in response to this and it will end this flame war.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

That makes no sense, and I've never heard it before. That just came out of "your hummingbird ass", didn't it? Oh, 6.

Basically its saying, "do not let your alligator mouth.. which means your big mouth overload your hummingbird ass".. that is a saying which means you talk alot and you can't back it up with sure fact. I am very saddened now that I had to explain that to you. Oh wait, I just remembered your not that bright.

Originally posted by Dude6252000
You speak seriously? Hah. Okay. Think what you want.

Yes sometimes I do speak seriously and as I stated in my past post you can't see the difference, which just goes to show you.. that you are a *****. think what I want? I am glad one of us is thinking here.

Originally posted by Dude6252000
And I'm not flaming, I'm simply stating a point, that I stated already. I want you to STOP making a pointless flame war on me. And what does me being gullible have to do with anything? Wow, you're "intelligent". And to me, all your posts are "silly". You act like an idiot in 99% of your posts, so I already assume when I see the name "Kinatt" making a post, that it's you being stupid again. Hey, 7 times!.

You are not flaming? I would have to say.. calling me retarded back in retaliation is flaming back. It may be pointless however if you would just as I stated above make response with the word yes it will be over. Alot of my posts are silly, however this is not one of them.. it started out with me defending Davidspy now its just to be offensive towards you, and prove what a lack of coherence you really have. I really don't care what you or anyone else thinks about my posts, as I have stated before it's usually just to get a rise and nothing more.

Originally posted by Dude6252000
I stated my opinion because on all the current PWs, tilesets are usually overlooked and ignored. I didn't make a discussion, you did, cussing me out. In other, SIMPLER words, you started this whole discussion. End it. I posted "negativity" because I had no picture. Now I do. I corrected my opinion. Hey, I stated that, what, like 3 times now? Immature and repetative, are we? There's 8.

You said almost all tilesets have their own.. which they don't again proving your ignorance to the graal community. No, I won't end it the only way to really end this discussion is a reply to this with the word Yes. You posted negatively because you didn't have a picture? do you avoid books because they don't have pictures? I see.. Hmm.. I understand your grade level comprehension now.. You corrected your opinion? Well I want the word YES in reply before I stop. (I am not going to address the immature and repetetive bit because I have already addressed that previously)

Originally posted by Dude6252000
What does that have to do with anything?

It was a response to what you posted directed towards me. You said "Shouldn't I be too busy with JJL" well.. I wasn't because Obviously I was at the forums. It was mere response no need to get defensive about those things.. come on now show some brains.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

[i]Bashes? I had no facts, ever heard of "assuming"?

bashes are negative comments without facts.. so basically that was bashing again.. clearing something up for the simple minded. and have I ever heard of assuming? well have you ever heard the break down of assuming? well the break down of assume is you make "a ass of u and me". That's business talk, sorry if you don't understand that saying either which you probably don't.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

The old sans wasn't all that great, honestly, and I thought it would just be old sans with a new look. This looks better now. Go donald! And no, I didn't admit that. 9 times."

Well, atleast you now have some factual basis for that response.. however I didn't mean you directly admitted that.. more like indirectly by that idiotic response previously.

Originally posted by Dude6252000
I never complained. I said one sentence that relates to current playerworlds. Sans is the future. Again, I'm not some mind reading god.

Now your speaking positively about this now that you have some information, you know maybe you should start keeping your mouth shut until you actually know what your talking about? Again with the god thing, I don't think anyone thinks your a god Karsh.. more like a gnat that needs to be smacked.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

Pictures help show what something is, so you just don't get "its a big world with cool stuff" and not see anything. 10 times now, by the way. Immature.

Ok, thank you captain obvious. again with the immature thing, now your starting to copy me huh? Put in immature alot but yours is too irregular to really count as a literary device.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

I'm going back and forth? I said, so many times now, I like the tileset. This isn't even your tileset, and of course, now that I like it, you still flame me. Smaaartt.

yes you are going back and forth.. however you say you like the tileset great.. im happy for you.. but that's not the issue now the tileset isn't everything, graphics are a mere part of the entire playerworld.. sorry but it's true. Smart? you have given me alot of compliments on this thread.. *sarcasm*

Originally posted by Dude6252000

I know you're not embarassed. You like being hated. So me posting is just fun for you. 12 times, by the way.

Damn straight, I am having a blast, if you want to continue just keep posting, if not put a Yes or don't post at all.

Originally posted by Dude6252000
Polar opposite of smart. Okay. Whatever. Sorry that I act like smart teenager, even though hence my age, I shouldn't be, because to you, age is everything. 13.

Ahem, I don't think I ever said age is everything. Also, for future reference Polar opposite means the exact opposite of smart.. basically dumb. I know some very smart teenagers. Hell Kai is a teenager although lacking in the social department he can definitely hold his own intelligently.

Originally posted by Dude6252000
14. And no, that picture was just summing up what the end of this argument would be. The bull being me. Oh, 15.

You want to stick a pointy object up my ass?? Dude, not only are you stupid, you need some serious psychological help.

Originally posted by Dude6252000
All I got out of that whole thing was that you think I'm a "dumb****"

Theres a big difference little boy between thinking, and knowing. And I know your a dumb****.

Originally posted by Dude6252000
[B]
and therefore, stated that 15 times. You say I'm not intelligent. Or mature. Look at you.

Last time I checked this isn't about me, it's about you prejudging peoples work before even seeing it. Jumping the gun to make someone feel bad is not cool, not cool at all.. unless your not my friend. I consider Davidspy a good part of the Graal community, I may have lashed at him a time or two in the forums but mistakes happen. Also please refrain from calling people immature, if you are not it yourself.. wow calling someone immature what does that achieve? Absolutely nothing.

Originally posted by Dude6252000

15 times saying the same repetative thing. Cussing me out again. Immature. Okay, now just stop this whole flame war, Kinatt. You started it, you clean it up, and admit, I corrected myself, and I'm now right. Okay?

I started it, yes, I clean it up? ok. I have left the ball in your hands you want it over.. simply reply with nothing but the word yes.. I am enjoying this sadly you are not. So it's up to you.
But don't think I will ever say "you are right"

[Dude6252000]

Me and Kinatt will continue to argue over AIM, so we don't have to annoy you guys. Sorry.

[davidpsy]

No no argu here!! it keeps the thread alive.

[Kinatt]

Originally posted by davidpsy
No no argu here!! it keeps the thread alive.

No, we fixed our beef. It's all good.. of course im sure there are alot more people out there who I can start to get beef with.

[davidpsy]

I got a beef with this guy androk who imed me saying how he hates sans tiles and had no reason.... anyone know his aim sn? I kind of blocked him and dident ad him to my buddy list.

[davidpsy]

Ok well I added the new bodys how does this snapshot look?

[Dude6252000]

Originally posted by davidpsy
Ok well I added the new bodys how does this snapshot look?

*chops .bmp with battle axe* None of my programs work with them, so I'm anti-bmp. Can someone post a png or gif?

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by Dude6252000

*chops .bmp with battle axe* None of my programs work with them, so I'm anti-bmp. Can someone post a png or gif?

I would but my internet suck ass so I cant upload the file in png since its so small yet big...

[Waltz5]

First off, Androk is the man.

Second, those bodies don't look good at all with the tileset.

Third, the trees stand out way too much.

[Googi]

Playerworlds always have problems like this and end up bad