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Sanstrata
Nemesis has said the following
"Dude doesn't matter to me.... whoever gets it done gets it done." "The objective is to make your own world...not remake something that someone did and take credit for their work and their innovation. That shows to me, how little you think and how crappy you are creatively not to make something of your own" "Remaking a server...tells me you cannot be innovative and creative on your own. Thus you lose points just for resubmitting something that someone else created" "It's not his work....it's like stealing plans and completing someone elses dream, you put the work in to do it, but still the idea and everything is not yours...you just added the missing pieces and claimed it as your own" Nemesis not only have I got the support of the one that created sans and I work with him and he not only feels that I am the one to lead his playerwolrd but I have come up with many ideas of my own and I am very close to finshing a whole tileset. Also I have added 150 levels that are new to sans over half of sans. I do also have the support of jinx and sabin 2 other owners of Sans and jinx who was an owner of sans and a well respected member of the pwa. I am trying to finsh sans as quickly as I can I only wish you would see that I am not stealing anyones work and that maybe you would understand that I should be the one to bring back sans and not this other group of people who only want power. |
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As co-creator and former owner of Sanstrata,
i do fully support Donald Shimoda's work on this playerworld. There will be more than sufficently new features to Sanstrata to attract players old and new, as well as an advancement to the storyline. Its kind of like why are there three separate Lord of the Rings books? Why make use the same setting and story? because enough has changed and it becomes so much more involed and exciting. This is just the next chapter in the life of sanstrata, its being ressurected from the dead and becoming glorified. Trust me, it will be worth it! Prozac |
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I agree, and fully support Donald on his decision, not only is he bringing back the greatest server that ever lived, he's not taking any credit for the levels already made. And yes, screenshots are always good.
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well, i'd just like to say, those were quotes by Nem... things he told me, when i asked him about this situation...
i showed them to David, and then he posted it... i did not wish for them to be posted, and i asked for him not to post it, since it was ment to be comments to him, and not to everyone... but he felt that he needed to post the quotes, to show proof that that was what Nem said... anyways, i just wanted to say that =/ |
Does it really matter?
Your basically making a new player world. Fair enough you may be using some of the stuff that was on Sanstrata but that doesn't make it that server. Your creating a new server and slapping that name on it. Like many have said, by bringing back a player world you will not get the fun you had from playing it then. The community is what makes a player world. |
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Music. Guns N Roses were great. Slash (lead guitarist) left so they got a new guitarist. They're still Guns N Roses but they're not the Guns N Roses that so many of the fans grew to love. So in millions of fans eyes they will never be the same without Slash. Another example? Iron Maiden. ****inson (lead vocals) left. So they got a new vocalist. He was good, well he was okay, but again it was not the same without ****inson. Maiden wern't as good without him, most fans I know feel this way too, and when he came back Maiden started to pick up again and become the band the fans wanted. So cutting it short it does matter. Without everything you had back then, the community, levels, NPCs etc you arn't going to get the enjoyment you want back. Simple as that. x.x I can't even say Bruce full name without the damn filter filtering it out. |
Ah lol but you see I talk to all my friends from sans everyday on aim and they are just waiting for me to finshs sans so they can buy an accout.
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im not exactly sure what this is about but i back donald up all the way. hes been working on this for a very long time and deserves to do what he wants with sans (especially with prozacs permission)
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Also Nemesis you say I am not being creative because I am rebuilding sanstrata. Yet does that mean people who rebuild old cars and houses are not creative either? Are you saying that new playerwolrds are not based on other servers ideas? They certainly are. Take cycical for an example. I like many other people loved sanstrata and felt terrible when it was taken down due to ebil haxors. The difference is I went and did something about this. I have worked for many months with the original author and owner of Sanstrata to rebuild it and make it better, creatively standing on the shoulders of Prozac who I admire and respect for creating the ogrinal Sanstrata. Through a creative collaboration with Prozac the new sanstrata will be better then ever. Yet you say I am not being creative........ Why? Because I choose to work in collaboration and cooperation with Prozac rather than to steal/copy/borrow or otherwise use others work without Contacting them or having their support. |
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Nemesis has been on one bad PMS trip lately. I think he needs a permanent vacation from PWA, but that's my opinion. That'll suck if you guys have to lose points because of the pw being a remake. Everything seems to be going great and you guys are working hard . I wish you good luck on your mission through your upcoming battles. |
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Well it's betetr than I expected.
But still it's not great. The trees look kinda odd, as if they have been built in segments. You'll wanna get rid of the dark green rings round them. The house is the worst thing though. It just looks as though it has been slapped on and looks way too flat. I suggest completly redoing it. And the path doesn't suit that level, but that's just bad tiling choice in my opinion. The grass and the water look nice though and with a little work the tree could be good. But I'm still sticking by my initial comment. EVen if you do get it up you will not be getting what you really want. |
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x.x, shade the house that the water cliffs, they doesnt look realistic at all, trees look odd, it look like a spinning ice cream.
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Now I have it. Nice tileset, Donald :) Sorry I thought you were wrong. It's awesome, that I know won't be overlooked on the first day :D And no, I wont shut up, you should. You just embarassed the hell out of yourself by me arguing with TRUE comments. Not non-educated ones. Sorry, I'm just a simple writer/smart guy. Go back to working on JJL, and take YOUR bad comments with you. And, this is how I sum up this argument: |
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An opinion is an opinion, however I really didn't see any opinions with educated reasoning. I will not ignore it because I can build my posts up by arguing with your ******* self. Well basically my server JJL will not have anything put up to allow people like your ******* self to respond to with things completely irrelevant and having nothing at all to do with the popular majority. Your opinion is like the independent party of the US, really not much at all. You dumb****. Quote:
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Don't let the alligator mouth overload your hummingbird ass. you dumb****. Quote:
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Yes you are just still proving your a dumb****. Quote:
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From your constant negativity towards Davidspy.
And you don't have negativity towards others? Oh please. I know it was your opinions however they were not backed up with hard facts at all, just your lack of knowledge on how people view things. Yes and you sir should keep quiet you may not be speaking for the whole community because they probably don't see things so half empty as you do either. *******. Lack of knowledge? Okay. Whatever. I'm not empty. Cussing you out wasn't necessary just really fun. Calling you a dumb**** was necessary I was stating my observations of your posts.. and I can conclude that yes sir, you are a dumb****. I really don't think anything I post in these forums will backfire, or make me embarrassed considering all the things I have ever posted here.. anyone with a half a brain obviously knows I really don't care about embarassing myself. However I did no such thing up there, you just embarass yourself by not stopping to post. survey says? you are a dumb**** Fun? Immature. It's a better word for it. Try it out. And it wasn't necessary. How many times to you have to use the phrase "dumb****"? And I know you don't care about embarassing yourself, you said you wanted to be hated. It's working. And that last sentence made me laugh, that's 3 times you used dumb**** now. Immature. An opinion is an opinion, however I really didn't see any opinions with educated reasoning. I will not ignore it because I can build my posts up by arguing with your ******* self. Well basically my server JJL will not have anything put up to allow people like your ******* self to respond to with things completely irrelevant and having nothing at all to do with the popular majority. Your opinion is like the independent party of the US, really not much at all. You dumb****. I know you don't see educated reasons, because apparently you don't know what they are. You arguing is like me arguing with my brother. Easy to win and pointless on your side. JJL will never be put up, because that was just another sign of your immaturity. And yes, my talking has a LOT to do with the community. Trust me. And that's 4 times. Counting. You sure as hell do talk alot, yea you are being negative to someone that needs support for something that means alot to him, Basically what your saying really has no basis other THAN BEING NEGATIVE and getting a rise out of him. Graphics are not everything, If you need a picture to accurately judge a playerworld then you sir are a dumb****. . oh wait that's already been concluded. A playerworld is more than just graphics it is also scripting and levels, and planning. Graphics are just eye candy they really can't justify the game completely. They get you to say oooh and aww.. thats it. I had no support, you expect me to be godly and see the future? No one's perfect, Mr. Kinatt. And apparently, I don't think you'd ever be able to work on a server, you can't even take my one bad comment, that I corrected in my last post. There you go with the pictures again. What, you expect me to know what a tileset looks like with no gfx? Oh, 5 times now. And yes, a playerworld is planning. But I don't know the planning of it, do I, Dr. Smart. Graphics, well, without them, there would be no screen. At all. Not even text. And gfx ARE important. Your comments are retarded, INCREDIBLY retarded. They have no facts, just some lame pre-teen talking about **** he doesn't even know about. You don't know diddly **** about anything. Keep your goddamn mouth shut and let intelligent people speak. Saying goes: Don't be talking, your's are more "INCREDIBLY retarded" than mine. And what's wrong with being pre-teen? What if I didn't reveal my age, and you all thought I was still 16? You would instantly lose another reason to make a lame attempt to argue with me. I know a lot. Don't be dissing my knowledge. I know "diddly ****" about a lot. HEY, OH, You're speaking, crap, you shouldn't be, you're not intelligent if you're even trying to argue with me about this. I corrected myself. Don't let the alligator mouth overload your hummingbird ass. you dumb****. That makes no sense, and I've never heard it before. That just came out of "your hummingbird ass", didn't it? Oh, 6. Sir, the fact that you cannot tell that I am sometimes speaking seriously and sometimes just trying to get gullible people like you to respond with flames.. is incredibly depressing. I would of thought even the simplest minds could understand the difference between my serious and silly posts? Oh wait, that's right your a dumb****. You speak seriously? Hah. Okay. Think what you want. And I'm not flaming, I'm simply stating a point, that I stated already. I want you to STOP making a pointless flame war on me. And what does me being gullible have to do with anything? Wow, you're "intelligent". And to me, all your posts are "silly". You act like an idiot in 99% of your posts, so I already assume when I see the name "Kinatt" making a post, that it's you being stupid again. Hey, 7 times! You didn't have facts then you shouldn't of stated an opinion on the matter.. you basically went into this discussion with absolutely no idea about what the **** you were talking about and posted complete negativity about anything and everything you did not know about. Could I imagine that? Please.. I don't have to I have an idiot right here posting that.. you dumb****. I stated my opinion because on all the current PWs, tilesets are usually overlooked and ignored. I didn't make a discussion, you did, cussing me out. In other, SIMPLER words, you started this whole discussion. End it. I posted "negativity" because I had no picture. Now I do. I corrected my opinion. Hey, I stated that, what, like 3 times now? Immature and repetative, are we? There's 8. When im on forums I am obviously not working on JJL .. come on show alittle bit of sense here. What does that have to do with anything? Then WHY THE **** DID YOU POST ALL THESE BASHES ON SANS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ANY FACTS? god damn you just admitted your a dumb****. Bashes? I had no facts, ever heard of "assuming"? The old sans wasn't all that great, honestly, and I thought it would just be old sans with a new look. This looks better now. Go donald! :D And no, I didn't admit that. 9 times. Ok, now that is more educated. see if you would of complained now.. it would of been appropriate. Since you needed PICTURES to judge a playerworld.. not actually PLAYING it. ugh.. yea your still a dumb****. I never complained. I said one sentence that relates to current playerworlds. Sans is the future. Again, I'm not some mind reading god. Pictures help show what something is, so you just don't get "its a big world with cool stuff" and not see anything. 10 times now, by the way. Immature. That's obvious your still talking.. god can someone get this guy some anti dumb**** in a can? 11 times. All I have to say on that one. You just corrected yourself saying you were wrong and that davidspy is right, and now your saying what you said is true? give me a break now your just going back in forth on your opinions. Again with the embarrassed.. I am not.. and cannot be embarrassed on these forums, in order for someone to be embarrassed I would have to care what you people think of me.. oh look at that. I don't too bad for you.. again your wrong. Yes you are just still proving your a dumb****. I'm going back and forth? I said, so many times now, I like the tileset. This isn't even your tileset, and of course, now that I like it, you still flame me. Smaaartt. I know you're not embarassed. You like being hated. So me posting is just fun for you. 12 times, by the way. Simple? yes.. smart? That is hilarious. I have seen for a fact that you are probably the polar opposite of smart. Dumb****. Polar opposite of smart. Okay. Whatever. Sorry that I act like smart teenager, even though hence my age, I shouldn't be, because to you, age is everything. 13. For one thing my bad comments are directed at you personally, for being such an incompetent dumb**** who needs to be smacked upside the head with a shovel. You put a picture of a bull with his horn up a guys rectum and expect that to be the end of it? Again, Survey says: DUMB**** 14. And no, that picture was just summing up what the end of this argument would be. The bull being me. Oh, 15. All I got out of that whole thing was that you think I'm a "dumb****", and therefore, stated that 15 times. You say I'm not intelligent. Or mature. Look at you. 15 times saying the same repetative thing. Cussing me out again. Immature. Okay, now just stop this whole flame war, Kinatt. You started it, you clean it up, and admit, I corrected myself, and I'm now right. Okay? |
Hey guys can we stop having huge ass logical posts flaming each other? Cause this is about how Nemesis should allow only me to go up....
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Well guys I made a new path err my dad made it and its very nice I think. I'm working on a new house and the next snapshot will have the new bodys =D.
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yes you are going back and forth.. however you say you like the tileset great.. im happy for you.. but that's not the issue now the tileset isn't everything, graphics are a mere part of the entire playerworld.. sorry but it's true. Smart? you have given me alot of compliments on this thread.. *sarcasm* Quote:
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Me and Kinatt will continue to argue over AIM, so we don't have to annoy you guys. Sorry.
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No no argu here!! it keeps the thread alive.
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I got a beef with this guy androk who imed me saying how he hates sans tiles and had no reason.... anyone know his aim sn? I kind of blocked him and dident ad him to my buddy list.
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Ok well I added the new bodys how does this snapshot look?
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First off, Androk is the man.
Second, those bodies don't look good at all with the tileset. Third, the trees stand out way too much. |
Playerworlds always have problems like this and end up bad :\
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