Lets Put A Stop To It Now!

[Circa]

Dude, nobody is forcing you to read what people say. Stop complaining. I'm sick of people like you always worrying about stupidest things. "OMG HE HAS SOMETHING BAD IN HIS PROFILE!"
DON'T LOOK AT HIS PROFILE "OMG HE SWORE" want a hero biscuit? Bloody ******s need to grow up and learn to ignore people.

[Milkdude99]

The problem stems from attitude that such behavior online is acceptable and "cool" and yet it is quite the contrary, it is immature and stupid. The main problem lies with the older players setting the example of offensive behavior is cool and common, like hacking, its cool if you can do it and get away with it and dumb if you get caught. Problem is most who do it are not well acquainted with the game in most cases and do it for acceptance of the older crowd and end up getting themselves banned. Adults on here also engage in this kind of behavior, not only hacking but also sexual content in PM’s, toalls and on the game, so what are the younger players supposed to think? Yea it must be cool to do that. Stiff lines need to be drawn not only on one or two servers but ALL servers to accomplish and change this on Graal. If you don't all they will do is migrate from one server to another where they can engage in this kind of behavior, that is the major problem now, young adults on many servers who desire to hold their players will ignore a lot of Graal rules and thus player counts stay up. Those who do player counts stay down, IF this was addressed and ALL servers enforced the rules as they should, then the players would play servers for content and for what really counts on a server and not because of what they can get away with there. Basically what I am saying all servers need to be cracked down on for ignoring Graal rules and made to do so or be removed from the community for the good of the community.

[Spark910]

It seems that Moon-Goddess, Moon God and myself have taken a mature look at this post, if you dont want to talk about it then dont post about it. And yes you can ignore it as ive said before but someone has left there job because of this as it got too intense and its about time someone did something about it.

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by Circa
Dude, nobody is forcing you to read what people say. Stop complaining. I'm sick of people like you always worrying about stupidest things. "OMG HE HAS SOMETHING BAD IN HIS PROFILE!"
DON'T LOOK AT HIS PROFILE "OMG HE SWORE" want a hero biscuit? Bloody ******s need to grow up and learn to ignore people.

You might want to look at the terms of use for Graal and that is what Staff's job is to regulate these kinds of things. You my friend need to follow the rules or find another game to play.

[Spark910]

Loriel said the players should be changed instead which I agree with, I dont see why it cant be a fun game without abuse. Do people really have to swear and abuse people to have fun on a game!? No the dont. I want players to change but there are too many immature people playing who think its fine to do what they are doing and so they wont change, which is a shame as the graal future wont look very good with abusers and rule breakers.

And to those who think its ok to abuse people in either way:

Source - Terms And Conditions

Although most of you just scrolled down to the bottom and press accept you still agreed to whatever was on that page even if you didnt read it and so you agreed to this

Rules of the Graal Online System. To ensure an enjoyable experience for as many people as possible, you agree to comply with generally accepted standards of proper online behavior.

[Googi]

Well a filter is indeed good, the problem is that it filters out normal non-profane words aswell by accident (i.e. Roo***p).

[Graal518]

Honestly, I think that a swear filter is quite frankly the silliest idea in which to be implemented in graal. True, it does prohibit profanity, but there are always loopholes around it, and it also does get in the way of certain words that are not profane at all. An example I’ve seen is “roo***p.” The only thing a swear filter is showing is that a majority of the community lacks the capacity to present themselves in a decent manner; therefore it’s sad that one would have to be used at the cost of Moon Goddess’ leave from something she loved to do. But as I said, swear filter or not, there will always be some form of harassment that will be there, as well as people who will try to look cool to get around it. So I say no. Regardless the good intention behind it, it’s just not really worth the trouble to add one. But I also, I don’t think that people should go unpunished when they are being crude.

Crime = Punishment

[aylad]

Originally posted by Valder
Try to just have people tone down their profanity a bit.

And just how, pray tell, are you going to do that? It's already a term/condition of Graal that you don't speak that way. "Please, kind sir, don't curse anymore even though no one's going to stop you" and you think that's going to do some good?! Reality check, please.

I voted for the filter... for the record, I think that's a good step, but I think people should be able to effectively report violators and filter-dodgers. By effectively, I mean

1 offense: warning
2nd offense: 1-day ban
3rd offense: 4-day ban

and add 1 day to the ban for each offense after that.

Flame me all you want, but there are rules against this behavior; people are too often deeply offended by this behavior; and no one is doing anything about it. It needs to stop.

Moon Goddess... I know you're staff, but honestly? People who use this language on masses don't deserve staff support. Just ignore 'em.

[Darlene159]

Moon Goddess... I know you're staff, but honestly? People who use this language on masses don't deserve staff support. Just ignore 'em.

And that solves what????

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by aylad


but there are rules against this behavior; people are too often deeply offended by this behavior; and no one is doing anything about it. It needs to stop.

Moon Goddess... I know you're staff, but honestly? People who use this language on masses don't deserve staff support. Just ignore 'em.

You seem to contradict yourself here, on one hand you say "there are rules" enforce them and then on the other hand you tell Moonie to ignore them? Ignoring the situation will not improve it but worsen it; the answer is strict enforcement equally to all.

[aylad]

Originally posted by Darlene159
And that solves what????

And also replying to Moon God:

I do seem to contradict myself. Let me straighten it out:

1. These lifeless punks don't deserve to play Graal. We need enforcement of the rules.

2. Unfortunately no one is going to enforce them (except in rare cases, on individual servers like N-Pulse).

Therefore:

3. Put the preschool brats who think this behavior is "cool" on your ignore list. What does it solve? Nothing. But maybe it'll make it easier to overlook? ...Ok. Yeah. Y'all are right.

I agree wholeheartedly with Moon God's statement, I just don't think it'll happen. It should, though.

[Graal518]

Originally posted by aylad

And just how, pray tell, are you going to do that? It's already a term/condition of Graal that you don't speak that way. "Please, kind sir, don't curse anymore even though no one's going to stop you" and you think that's going to do some good?! Reality check, please.

True, it is a term/condition to not use profane language in graal. But it's sad that a swear filter has to be added towards stopping this. This clearly shows that the people here simply cannot control the demeanor in which they choose to type. If someone opposes the rules, they should be effectively be warned then banned at the next offense.

I voted for the filter... for the record, I think that's a good step, but I think people should be able to effectively report violators and filter-dodgers. By effectively, I mean

1 offense: warning
2nd offense: 1-day ban
3rd offense: 4-day ban

and add 1 day to the ban for each offense after that.

And why exactly is it worth the trouble to do it this way? It's just like a slap on the wrist to those who like to be profane. "Oh, I broke the rules, and I will be banned for it, I'll be back soon enough to break the rules again!" Repeat offenders have no need to post here. They should just be taken out. If they don't want to follow the rules, then why have them here in the first place? I can see a temporary ban at some point, but there is going to be a point where offensive behavior will just be too reoccurring for him/her to continue to have the privilege to be able to post here.

Flame me all you want, but there are rules against this behavior; people are too often deeply offended by this behavior; and no one is doing anything about it. It needs to stop.

I think it's even sadder that people can't retain themselves from being crude, and a swear filter is needed/suggested to try and restrain people with a lack of decency to compose themselves in a mature manner.

Moon Goddess... I know you're staff, but honestly? People who use this language on masses don't deserve staff support. Just ignore 'em.

Easier said than done. You know Moon God/Goddess have high regard for Graal's rules, and to ignore them, and allow them to continue to shell out expletive terms which has the possibility to offend other players/staff members shouldn't be ignored. It is still breaking a Graal rule, and to turn a blind eye on it would just give encouragement to the player to continue on in his/her behavior.

[aylad]

Originally posted by Graal518
[B]what he said

All true, read my post right above yours.

[Thak2]

I don't think any filter is a good idea.

I don't believe anyone is seriously offended when someone swears on the internet, of course in life it can be offensive, when emotion is behind the words.

Recently it's like people enjoy restricting things. :[

[cloudstrifevii]

Originally posted by Valder


Who cares if people leave the forums, they are just forums. You can always get their AIM and talk to them there or any of the other chat programs there are out there.

Ya, Im getting tired of these threads. There is already a swearing filter on the forums and you shouldn't let that stuff get to you. If you let a 12-65 year old person on graal harass you and affect you because you were "chewed out" that shows that you are obviously insecure or something. Especially over the internet and MoonGoddess is an adult for christs sake. That shows she well finally gave up on graal and I am proud of her for doing what most of us can't(the ones who play 24/7). I don't really play graal anymore just post here. Every now and then I get on but its not as fun as it used to be. I find playing sports with my friends or hanging out at football games or any social activity ALOT more fun than sitting on your ass playing graal.