Armor

[Hiyoshi]

I think that each kingdom should have its own unique set of armor. Each would have equal stats, just different show during battle.

The Samurai would of course have black/red armor, with the traditional (kick ass) Samurai helmets, with vanadium swords (they really do look asian).

Dustari should have the usual European/2k2 armor. Regular chainmail/ironmail. Swords, diamond blades and what not.

Pirate Crew should have daggers/fencing swords. The armor, I'm not sure what they should wear. It seems Pirates never really wore armor.

Zormite would have scalemail stuff. Blue, traditionally. As for swords, I have no clue what they should have. Possibly a pearl sword?

Forest, wooden armor, wooden swords. They use their natural resource to make powerful armory.

Each kingdom shouldn't just be supplied with these. The town blacksmith(s) should have to craft them, but the town miners should have to get the minerals. Each class receiving pay, from the town taxes, for their work. The blacksmith could make a set of armor for each recruit to infantry. This would make good show for wars, it would be boring to see every kingdom running out in the same set of armor...

[Dark-Dragoon]

But i would want black armor, and im not samurai.
*Problem*

[_0AfTeRsHoCk0_]

I do believe that Dustari's colors are black and red?

[ldhfd]

Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
I do believe that Dustari's colors are black and red?

no they're black and red *looks at their body and shield* and your brown haha

[MilkyWay0016]

Thats a really good idea, though we'll need a lot of blacksmiths. Maybe we can have some NPC ones to increase RPing?
Dustaria's colors ARE black and red, they have been for awhile.
I don't walk around wearing red white and blue all the time. Samurai shold have like crop based colors, that is a major part in their lives. Like yellows and green and stuff

[ssj2sal]

It is a great idea..but Hiyoshi can you not say things like Samurai helmet....it really pisses me off..and the Crop coloured armour thing? ugh..Feudal japanese great armour, the types mainly used by Samurai was never crop coloured, usually Black, and hardly ever red...though it sometimes had reddish decoration... There needs to be more Japanese weapons in my opinion...like the Nagamaki, Wakizashi,Sodegarami, Lajatang, Shikomi-zue, Kusari-gama, Jitte, Sai, Fukumi-Bari etc...I'm not suggesting that these are all implemented as 2k2 weapons..just that more types of Feudal japanese weapons are eventually used...

[KwuazlKenshin]

i like the idea.. And i really like blacksmithing... i could be the local Blacksmith except i am the prince = D lel

[KwuazlKenshin]

and i like the idea of equalizing the stats so like 1 person who trains all day cant kill the whole opposing army. = )

[Hiyoshi]

Originally posted by ssj2sal
It is a great idea..but Hiyoshi can you not say things like Samurai helmet....it really pisses me off..

How does saying Samurai helmet piss you off? I'm describing it the best way it could, the helmet Samurai wore in Feudal Japan.

[MilkyWay0016]

Originally posted by ssj2sal
There needs to be more Japanese weapons in my opinion...like the Nagamaki, Wakizashi,Sodegarami, Lajatang, Shikomi-zue, Kusari-gama, Jitte, Sai, Fukumi-Bari etc

Don't you think thats favoring samurai juust a little? . I mean, you already have some samurai blades. There arn't any Zormite blades, or forest blades that I've seen. Its a good idea, but not untill the other kingdoms get some cool stuff

[aylad]

Originally posted by ssj2sal
more types of Feudal japanese weapons are eventually used...

Didn't they have muskets, too? Ugh. No guns on 2k2, please! Overpowered magic is bad enough.

[ssj2sal]

Originally posted by aylad


Didn't they have muskets, too? Ugh. No guns on 2k2, please! Overpowered magic is bad enough.

actually, gunpowder was invented in china....

[ssj2sal]

Originally posted by MilkyWay0016


Don't you think thats favoring samurai juust a little? . I mean, you already have some samurai blades. There arn't any Zormite blades, or forest blades that I've seen. Its a good idea, but not untill the other kingdoms get some cool stuff

I'm not saying now..i'm saying that would be great when it's
a) possible and
b) fair

[ssj2sal]

Originally posted by Hiyoshi

How does saying Samurai helmet piss you off? I'm describing it the best way it could, the helmet Samurai wore in Feudal Japan.

I don't know...it just does..I feel it's like people calling the Katana "Samurai Sword".....arg

[aylad]

Originally posted by ssj2sal


actually, gunpowder was invented in china....

Give me a little credit. I knew that. But who was China's next door neighbor, trading with them?

But I meant long after the invention of powder, anyway. If I remember correctly, Japanese feudalism lasted a LONG time after Western Europe had abandoned it. Thus the muskets (earlier guns were called something else, I forget what).

[ssj2sal]

Originally posted by aylad


Give me a little credit. I knew that. But who was China's next door neighbor, trading with them?

But I meant long after the invention of powder, anyway. If I remember correctly, Japanese feudalism lasted a LONG time after Western Europe had abandoned it. Thus the muskets (earlier guns were called something else, I forget what).

ok...you are right...and Japanese feudalism was around much later than western feudalism...but i'm not sure so much about the trading thing...they were at war more than anything else

[Ghost Pirate]

I think Pirates pretty much wore over large belt buckles and pretty much anything with belts and big belt buckle

[MysticHasteP2P_2]

Custom armor WON'T WORK, because of the fact that you can really have wooden armor and a plate mail and expect people to beleive that they have equal stats, Pirates TRADITIONALLY don't really wear armor, hell they barely wear clothes... Samurai always wore light easy fitting outfits for fast movement, and grace, elves would wear wooden/leather, As you can see, all of these kingdoms are from slightly/not so slightly different time periods, we are not going for realism, if we were it would be 4 dustari's or 4 pc's or whatever.

Do as it will, each kingdom should not be limited to a look, if anything have armors that look different, but can be worn by anyone. Either way, many classes won't wear the heaviest armor.

[game_king]

Originally posted by MilkyWay0016


Don't you think thats favoring samurai juust a little? . I mean, you already have some samurai blades. There arn't any Zormite blades, or forest blades that I've seen. Its a good idea, but not untill the other kingdoms get some cool stuff

iam certin their will be some weapons for both zormite and forest but i havent heard many ideas on zormite weapons so maybe they need to really on somthing else to even their odds like stronger armor

[Hiyoshi]

Originally posted by MysticHasteP2P_2
...elves would wear wooden/leather...

Elves are fictional...anyways, we should have it limited. Look, you'd never see a Samurai in the feudal age running around in a knight's armor, from Europe. It just didn't happen, so, yes, it would work.

[ssj2sal]

agreed hiyoshi

[ssj2sal]

Originally posted by MysticHasteP2P_2
Custom armor WON'T WORK, because of the fact that you can really have wooden armor and a plate mail and expect people to beleive that they have equal stats...Samurai always wore light easy fitting outfits for fast movement...we are not going for realism...Do as it will, each kingdom should not be limited to a look, if anything have armors that look different, but can be worn by anyone. Either way, many classes won't wear the heaviest armor.

Actually, Samurai did not always wear light armor. The Samurai Great-Armor was definately not light, though granted, it may have been lighter than Plate and such in medieval europe. Kingdoms should to a degree be limited to a look. When you think about it practically, Samurai would not wear european armor. Both because they wouldn't have had access too it, and for the actual Samurai caste in feudal japanese society, it would have been an affront to their ancesters to wear the armor of europe. Also, we should be going for at least a degree of realism, though not total realism which would be next too impossible

[Ghost Pirate]

I think its better to have kingdom with different styles of defense

Dustari Armor:
Pro: Strong in defense
Con:heavy weight
Samurai Armor:
Pro: light weight
Con: Weak in defense
Pirate "Armor":
Pro: medium in defense
Con: medium weight
Zormite Armor:
Pro: Slightly light
Con: Semi-Weak in defense
Forest Armor:
Pro: Medium in defense
Con: Medium weight

If there was more to armor you can add more pros and cons but this is pretty much all I see =/
Weapons would pretty much go the same way.

[DragonX2]

Originally posted by Ghost Pirate
I think its better to have kingdom with different styles of defense

Dustari Armor:
Pro: Strong in defense
Con:heavy weight
Samurai Armor:
Pro: light weight
Con: Weak in defense
Pirate "Armor":
Pro: medium in defense
Con: medium weight
Zormite Armor:
Pro: Slightly light
Con: Semi-Weak in defense
Forest Armor:
Pro: Medium in defense
Con: Medium weight

If there was more to armor you can add more pros and cons but this is pretty much all I see =/
Weapons would pretty much go the same way.

We should get to craft pirate hooks like
Wooden Pirate Hook - 1 board, 1 iron
Metal Pirate Hook - 1 board, 2 iron blades
Diamond Pirate Hook - 1 board, 1 diamond
that would be awesome !

[feivel]

Ghost, Samurai armor was not light-weight and weak.
My charatcer is a Naganita wielding Samurai warrior.
Generally there were "Naganita Samurai" and they were very strong armor because with their Naganitas they were excellent agaisnt cavalry as well as they were good at defending bridges etc.

[ssj2sal]

Originally posted by feivel
Ghost, Samurai armor was not light-weight and weak.
My charatcer is a Naganita wielding Samurai warrior.
Generally there were "Naganita Samurai" and they were very strong armor because with their Naganitas they were excellent agaisnt cavalry as well as they were good at defending bridges etc.

exactly...though some Japanese armor was lightweight (ie Ashigaru armor) many were almost as heavy as plate in western europe (ie Great Armor) you can't just say...well, samurai have light but weak armor

[Ghost Pirate]

Originally posted by DragonX2


We should get to craft pirate hooks like
Wooden Pirate Hook - 1 board, 1 iron
Metal Pirate Hook - 1 board, 2 iron blades
Diamond Pirate Hook - 1 board, 1 diamond
that would be awesome !

GOLD PIRATE HOOK!
I dislike the whole "diamond weapon thing"

[Python523]

it would be near impossible to 'craft' a diamond in those times anyway....

[Hiyoshi]

Originally posted by Ghost Pirate
I think its better to have kingdom with different styles of defense

Dustari Armor:
Pro: Strong in defense
Con:heavy weight
Samurai Armor:
Pro: light weight
Con: Weak in defense
Pirate "Armor":
Pro: medium in defense
Con: medium weight
Zormite Armor:
Pro: Slightly light
Con: Semi-Weak in defense
Forest Armor:
Pro: Medium in defense
Con: Medium weight

If there was more to armor you can add more pros and cons but this is pretty much all I see =/
Weapons would pretty much go the same way.

Too unbalanced :-\. I don't see how Pirates fit as a kingdom though, they pretty much only raided ships and stuff, but, hell, I guess it'd still be fun.

[Python523]

I think there should be 5 different attributes each 'kingdom' weapon gets
1.) speed of weapon
2.) strength of weapon
3.) range of weapon
4.) Endurance of weapon (maybe add something like in Dark Cloud where the weapon eventually wears down and breaks if you dont repair it)
5.) wight of weapon
each of the 5 kingdoms gets a really bad, really good, and 3 OKs in each category, or maybe 5 different levels to make it more 'balanced'

[MasterNuke]

Hmm... maybe you can make it so that say for example... a Dustarian Steel Long Sword... around maybe +6 atk? but if a Dustarian weilds it... they get a bonus of maybe +3-4 because its their kingdom's weapon?

Just my 9 cents.....

[fifi-nono]

oh man i can't wait... i've been in Samurai for so long in G2k1 and now i get to be in it in G2k2