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Old 07-13-2002, 04:23 AM
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No it won't.
Anti-scamming was put up.
Scamming is dead you can't scam your way up anymore so there is no way it will end up the same way. Things have changed.
most of the money was put on by bugs and kamuii
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Old 07-13-2002, 05:37 AM
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Actually, I'd like to see a reset.. but no changes to the economy itself, maybe make hats expensive like they are now (ex. 1000 for Halo in store.) But keep bomies available to own. Maybe like in 3 months or so, have a huge auction for all or something.

I'd just like to do stuff over and do some of the jobs... I haven't d-bashed in awhile .

I don't know, basically.. either way I'm content... doesn't really matter to me.
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Old 07-13-2002, 05:45 AM
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reset or death you have 2.345.20233 light hours
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Old 07-13-2002, 05:46 AM
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Just reset it already!:grrr: who cares about money and stuff. the economy is ruined
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Old 07-13-2002, 05:50 AM
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After merging of several threads poll got screwd... anyhow here are the results before merging:
Yes - 33
No - 22
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kamuii's whole job is to ruin teh econmy don't say that because then he will think he is doing a good job not reseting >:O
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Old 07-13-2002, 05:52 AM
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No it won't.
Anti-scamming was put up.
Scamming is dead you can't scam your way up anymore so there is no way it will end up the same way. Things have changed.
Yes it will... people have a mind set now that says
Shades cost 1,000
Halo costs 1,000
Fools costs 400.
Graal has turned into a society of money making and greed... welcome to it. You cant change it.


And Ghost Pirate... my bad... MOST people dont want a reset.
If you ask some people "Yeah I want a reset as long as I can keep my hats" or it's "I WANT RESET BUT I WANT TO KEEP BOMY" etc.
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Old 07-13-2002, 05:54 AM
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After merging of several threads poll got screwd... anyhow here are the results before merging:
Yes - 33
No - 22
Poles really change the fate of Graal doesn't it?
Shadow Knight tried to do this... with an overwhelming win for the
YES RESET PLEASE
side... did it happen? No.

Not to mention not everyone comes on the forums
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Old 07-13-2002, 06:03 AM
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I still want it to be reset. Im a two sided person. on one thread i said i dont want it reset and on the other it should be.
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If reset people CAN sue. You might state they cant but they can. We paid for Graal and for a game and you're refusing us service.
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Old 07-13-2002, 06:06 AM
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also i agree that they should have more jobs. bread baking sux and pearl diving is just as bad.they should have a weapons store wear a person sells the stuff not a NPC. or something like that.
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Old 07-13-2002, 06:20 AM
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WHY NOT? PLAYERS KEEP SCREAMING ABOUT IT! Everybody wants a reset! Nobody cares about what they got! BAh! This is just blind! You should listen to people! Otherwise Graal 2001 population will just keep going down!
Lemme ask you somthing.Do you haev alot on 2001?Are you one of the real people who worked for what they got?Most of the people who want account resets DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING.And when im on 2001 I just dont see poelp wanting the reset I see people who don't want it.
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Old 07-13-2002, 06:46 AM
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I worked for countless hours (okay, maybe 1,000 something) farming and bread baking for this money. I don't MIND LOSING IT, OR THE ECONOMY BEING DESTROYED, as long as we can keep our bomys, and diamond axes/hammers.
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Old 07-13-2002, 06:50 AM
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Lemme ask you somthing.Do you haev alot on 2001?Are you one of the real people who worked for what they got?Most of the people who want account resets DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING.And when im on 2001 I just dont see poelp wanting the reset I see people who don't want it.
Like I've been saying

I've worked around 1500 + hours on Graal farming, baking, mining, you name I it done it
I've goten everything
Bomy, house, hats, etc etc,

AND I WANT A RESET
GO figure eh?
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Old 07-13-2002, 06:51 AM
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as long as we can keep our bomys, and diamond axes/hammers.
You can't do that, you can't have some stuff kept and some not. Because what if instead of a bomy, someone bout a villa or a PH, or even a really expensive hat.

To me that's not fair, and you have to make it all or nothing.
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Old 07-13-2002, 07:01 AM
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Lemme ask you somthing.Do you haev alot on 2001?Are you one of the real people who worked for what they got?Most of the people who want account resets DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING.And when im on 2001 I just dont see poelp wanting the reset I see people who don't want it.
Ive Worked 1000+ hours getting money.. bomys... houses.. hats.... and more.... and I want it reset
IT would be fun doing all the quests over again
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Lemme ask you somthing.Do you haev alot on 2001?Are you one of the real people who worked for what they got?Most of the people who want account resets DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING.And when im on 2001 I just dont see poelp wanting the reset I see people who don't want it.
50k, bomy, all shoguns + all other rare hats.

Reset? Yes.
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Old 07-13-2002, 07:30 AM
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wow. This thread got big.


Anywho, people... look at my post at read that text file. That's what someone wrote and I think it would do the server good!
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Old 07-13-2002, 07:39 AM
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They should make like 5 more jobs instead of new lands... x.x Then start doing quests, meanwhile reset server so we can do stuff...
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I want it to go back to the days when 1000 gralats ment you were rich enough to retire from Graal 2001.

I loved it when 100 gralats was a lot. The problem with the economy is when people go to make bread or fish or do other things it comes from an unlimited fund, thus there has to be an unlimited reverse funding too.

I don't want this place to end up like Classic which is sure feels like, remember... Money does not grow on bushes
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I voted "no" because if the server is going to reset, chances are it'll be just as shitty as before, unless you change pretty much every thing about 2k1.

-The npcs.
the npcs on 2k1 are just to lure newbies to it's high-teck look. I sadly fell for that. Also the staff seem to be so special that they can have thier own toys and special privlages and advantages over other players. Why the hell is there a hat that only staff can get, and 1 lucky player? Not to mention most of our staff don't even deserver thier positions, etc, but I'll get to that in a sec.
most of the npcs on the server either don't work correctly, are makeshift work, or cost to many hours of your free time and a keyboard (gralats). The jobs take far to long to do and they don't pay off well enough (my bassis of curency on graal is that there is always someone with an ungodly amount of money and I somehow never have more than 1k for more than a week). Other cases are that most of the npcs cost far to much that anyone could ever aford if they never seen the server before the new version of the default tileset.

-The values of the npcs and other things.
Hats are just pretty skins. None should be staff-only, none should cost more than ... 0g, and none should be limited edition.
colections are fun, but shouldn't be there if it is imposible for 75% of the players to compleat the colection. Bomys and houses are far too expecive. I think them being limited is a big mistake. Houses are nice, but there are far to few of them, and they are far to expencive for just 1 level to have your own work of creativity for graal. I like the villas because they aren't customizeable (when they are made well) so its not like rent server space, and there isn't rent to keep you working for a place to aviod the jerks who play for kills, as well as a nice place to call home. They still cost far to much. My basis for the curency is someone always haveing 100 times as much as myself, and the keyboards I've worn out in crafting and mineing, lol. things should be much easier to get, and actualy rewarding for more than 5 seconds after purchase.

-The staff
I don't care what anyone says: 2k1 staff are the wort staff. I think the worst staff member of the bunch is Brad. Anyways, it seems the staff get special privlages, npcs, etc that normal players can't have. Staff shouldn't be any different from normal players and should work for the server for the good of the server, not personal gain. I think all existing staff on the server should be deleated, and there should be a fair recruteing of new staff, and not too many. Also the staff's abilitys should be limited. Auctioneers and ets don't need jack squat, with the exception of hosting auctions and events. police only need thier warpto and jailing abilities. not a pretty police hat, thats for sure. FAQ don't need ANYTHING. levels administators (gats, nats, lats, whatever you call them) should be fired if the players aren't impressed with thier work, and they only need warpto, and they don't need access to every gate in graal, the admin should be in the guild to use the gate, etc, not a built in privlage. There shouldn't be anyone capable of removeing ownership of a house, let alone anyone's items without that person's concent when it is proven the npc, etc works correctly. if glitches are reported in this npc, etc, then whoever ownes the server can make it so this thing can't be used untill fixed, and then the owners get it back.
oh, and I've seen a staff mine with a zaltic rifle before. WTF???

-the jobs
maby I mentioned this in npcs, but the jobs realy need to be more intresting. mineing, crafting, and bread makeing are wearing out your d key, and eventualy cost real money for a new keyboard, or your not pressing the key fast enough to get the job done asap. the only jobs I aprove of are milking cows and farming... mineing and crafting are cool ideas, but can't be made intresting, or fun to do. the mineing and crafting should be deleated. pearl diveing needs to go, too.

I think I've ranted long enough for now... and I've lost my train of thought, lol. oh yes... if you could make the server fun in the aspects I more or less sugested, if not more than them, then a server reset would be nice, because you'd be makeing a new server by the same name.
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Old 07-13-2002, 09:12 AM
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Old 07-13-2002, 09:15 AM
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Old 07-13-2002, 09:34 AM
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quote this and put the everything in the image code in your sig
It's Kamuii... and there is a way better sig...

Now someone host it.
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It's Kamuii... and there is a way better sig...

Now someone host it.
its supposed to be big assertive and obnoxious and horrible not small and cute
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No... it's supposed t be small and cute, so it'll take up less space on whatever erver you use!
Now host it!
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No... it's supposed t be small and cute, so it'll take up less space on whatever erver you use!
Now host it!
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Old 07-13-2002, 09:40 AM
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Old 07-14-2002, 02:47 AM
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Old 07-14-2002, 02:48 AM
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Besides, it isn't just a simple reset we need! We also need alot of things in the server to be re-done. A simple reset will just make even MORE people leave, not more people come back!!!
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Old 07-14-2002, 02:58 AM
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