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Androk2k1 07-08-2002 07:21 AM

Graal 2001 needs reset, no?
 
Graal 2001 needs full reset! There is simpley nothing more to do! Today Fishing Pol with Gold Lure (130g) was barley auctioned for 5g! Nobody wanted to buy it! Crappy green hats are worth thousends just because people have TONS of money to waste! None EVEr farms, because when new player gets online, other players will give him money boost, just to help him start.

- Reset would solve all this!
- Hats should become Free! Howevere there should be SOME kind of colectables.. I would go for necklacesa and Bomy Auras. Also there shouldn't be alot of collectables, maybe 50 of each type, because there should be no *better* or *worth*, stuff should be judged by it's looks.
- More different jobs would be nice as well.


Yes I could simpley reset my wn account and be happy with it, but what's the point if I'll just have to work my way back up to thousends in order to be "normal"

Yes reset of server's effect will be back to what we have now in 7 months, but so what? At least we had those 7 months, and besides, who knows what will happen now!

Anyhow I want FUN to return back! I want to think that I am rich when I have 100g! And not to think that I am poor when I have 1000g and a bomy!

Most of Graal Players want a reset! So let is be so!Reset 2001, however leave bomys to their owners... because you won't be able to sell bomy for 10,000 g when max someone has is 100g. I don't care about anything else really, my hats, my dolls my 1000g.

Post what you think.

PS: I know there were tons of threads like this, ut the more the merrier.

ZanderX 07-08-2002 07:24 AM

No.

AlexH 07-08-2002 07:25 AM

Nope doesnt need a reset.

Ghost Pirate 07-08-2002 07:26 AM

As seen above Kamuii seems to think everything is so peachy in Graal2001 land

Waltz5 07-08-2002 07:28 AM

I vote no

Androk2k1 07-08-2002 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZanderX
No.
WHY NOT? PLAYERS KEEP SCREAMING ABOUT IT! Everybody wants a reset! Nobody cares about what they got! BAh! This is just blind! You should listen to people! Otherwise Graal 2001 population will just keep going down!

Brad 07-08-2002 07:29 AM

Yes

**** those who say no

same with bodies i cant even hold an event anymore

Androk2k1 07-08-2002 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad
Yes

**** those who say no

same with bodies i cant even hold an event anymore

I know how many people support The Reset... So don't worry!
Hmmm Let's get back that sig: "Reset Graal 2001" !

magicbud3344 07-08-2002 07:35 AM

at first i thought no but then i have started to change my mind i know it will not be reset but i am voteing yes,
and as for you brad you need to see other people opinons without shooting them down

ZanderX 07-08-2002 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Androk2k1


WHY NOT? PLAYERS KEEP SCREAMING ABOUT IT! Everybody wants a reset! Nobody cares about what they got! BAh! This is just blind! You should listen to people! Otherwise Graal 2001 population will just keep going down!

LAST TIME I CHECKED THE POPULATION WAS GOING UP. ARE YOU BLIND?

Androk2k1 07-08-2002 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by magicbud3344
at first i thought no but then i have started to change my mind i know it will not be reset but i am voteing yes,
and as for you brad you need to see other people opinons without shooting them down

Problem is, people who say no, have no base... I never heared any exlanation WHY not...

Vyse_the_Blue_Rogue 07-08-2002 07:50 AM

YES


Graal is..horrible

Oh and hats should be free..I have some suggestions in another topic, I'll copy/paste

<copypaste>
Graal needs alot
Let'see-

-Less corrupt staff

-Less n00b staff

-Less staff toys

-Only give staff npcs that they really need
A.Police need warpto

B. Developers need warpto

C. Auctioneers need auction house only warpto

D. ET need events places only warpto

E. NO "YOUR SOUL HAS BEEN PUSHED OUT OF YOUR BODY" NPCS FOR STAFF! THAT HELPS NOTHING AND IS JUST THERE TO PLEASE STAFF! That NPC, if it stays, should stay in the form of eveyrbody must pay some gralats to get.

F. Who the fux needs Staff boots? Remove those. A developer/bug tester could just use warpto. It's faster

G. There's some other npcs..can't think them right now

-Hats should be lowered in price/Free. So that hats can be what they truly are. Decorations, and people will wear them for that, and buy them for what they want, not what is popular.

-You should be able to put hats on peoples heads

-People who make hats that get put up should recieve a (Free) copy of the hat.

-It should be easier to get hats put up then posting on the forums, because right now only popular people get hats put up.
You should have to send them to Stefan..
A. Maybe it's already like that, I dunno. I asked Stefan himself though
</copy paste>

Brad 07-08-2002 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by magicbud3344
at first i thought no but then i have started to change my mind i know it will not be reset but i am voteing yes,
and as for you brad you need to see other people opinons without shooting them down

No.

My ego is too high for that. If you knew me, you'd know how arrogant I really am.

Androk2k1 07-08-2002 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZanderX


LAST TIME I CHECKED THE POPULATION WAS GOING UP. ARE YOU BLIND?

Compared to 100 people that you had? Or 10 people that you had right before 2002 stoped updating? Because there is difference. Heck I think teher were above 100 people on at a time during weekends... now it's... well... umm... 60? 40 people. Might not seem like much, but counting that every second someone signs on and off... it is.

ZanderX 07-08-2002 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vyse_the_Blue_Rogue

snip

-Less corrupt staff

Name 'em.

-Less n00b staff

Name 'em. This makes no sense anyways.

-Less staff toys

Great how there aren't any, right?

A.Police need warpto

Yes, by giving them all RC or Admin NPC, right?

B. Developers need warpto

They have it. Oops.

E. NO "YOUR SOUL HAS BEEN PUSHED OUT OF YOUR BODY" NPCS FOR STAFF! THAT HELPS NOTHING AND IS JUST THERE TO PLEASE STAFF! That NPC, if it stays, should stay in the form of eveyrbody must pay some gralats to get.

Question, what exactly are you talking about?

F. Who the fux needs Staff boots? Remove those. A developer/bug tester could just use warpto. It's faster

Actually, I need them.


-Hats should be lowered in price/Free. So that hats can be what they truly are. Decorations, and people will wear them for that, and buy them for what they want, not what is popular.

That defeats their current purpose.

-You should be able to put hats on peoples heads

Why, to annoy them?

-People who make hats that get put up should recieve a (Free) copy of the hat.

And why is this?

-It should be easier to get hats put up then posting on the forums, because right now only popular people get hats put up.
You should have to send them to Stefan..

Why Stefan? That makes no sense.

Torankusu 07-08-2002 07:58 AM

kamuii, clean your glasses.

130 to 80 (and below) is not a population INCREASE. We only have more people BECAUsE GRAAL 2002 STOPPED BEING UPDATED (which I had expected from the early release.)

A reset would be nice, completely destroy money, replace jobs with things that you need for quests, and other things. Old bodies, old HEARTS system. Argh.

god.

**** it.

ZanderX 07-08-2002 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Androk2k1


Compared to 100 people that you had? Or 10 people that you had right before 2002 stoped updating? Because there is difference. Heck I think teher were above 100 people on at a time during weekends... now it's... well... umm... 60? 40 people. Might not seem like much, but counting that every second someone signs on and off... it is.

I suppose I need glasses because I must have HORRIBLE vision for seeing 80-90 people on.

ZanderX 07-08-2002 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu
kamuii, clean your glasses.

130 to 80 (and below) is not a population INCREASE. We only have more people BECAUsE GRAAL 2002 STOPPED BEING UPDATED (which I had expected from the early release.)

A reset would be nice, completely destroy money, replace jobs with things that you need for quests, and other things. Old bodies, old HEARTS system. Argh.

god.

**** it.

There are only so many people who have upgraded. It's an increase from what we had before, whether the fault of Graal 2002 or not.

Androk2k1 07-08-2002 08:02 AM

I understrand you can't reset because tilt towards is only 60%, and oither 40% will suffer, but consider partial reset! Let' say NO MORE RESTOCKS for stores. Those restockes made Halo fly up in price and Shoguns fly even more, because apparentl 30 Shoguns creat market and 70 shoguns get into overpricers hands... Shoguns are now decreasion though... and everything seems to be stabalizing. But still it shocked economy good. So if you restock, please do so with new hats.

New collectables might be a good idea too.. though they'll have to be in somewhat large numbers so price will remain same. (50-70).

ANyhow if there is no reset, creat partial stabalizing! That donation cup helped alot, but then someone restocked stores with 400 hats of ones type and there goes economy. I hope Admins will cre for economy more now.

Ghost Pirate 07-08-2002 08:02 AM

Around about now around a few months back there was around 130+ On Graal now theres only 50?
I don't call that a improvement

ZanderX 07-08-2002 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Androk2k1
I understrand you can't reset because tilt towards is only 60%, and oither 40% will suffer, but consider partial reset! Let' say NO MORE RESTOCKS for stores. Those restockes made Halo fly up in price and Shoguns fly even more, because apparentl 30 Shoguns creat market and 70 shoguns get into overpricers hands... Shoguns are now decreasion though... and everything seems to be stabalizing. But still it shocked economy good. So if you restock, please do so with new hats.

New collectables might be a good idea too.. though they'll have to be in somewhat large numbers so price will remain same. (50-70).

ANyhow if there is no reset, creat partial stabalizing! That donation cup helped alot, but then someone restocked stores with 400 hats of ones type and there goes economy. I hope Admins will cre for economy more now.

Understand that one of the focal points of my career as manager is to ruin the economy.

Ghost Pirate 07-08-2002 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Androk2k1
I understrand you can't reset because tilt towards is only 60%, and oither 40% will suffer, but consider partial reset! Let' say NO MORE RESTOCKS for stores. Those restockes made Halo fly up in price and Shoguns fly even more, because apparentl 30 Shoguns creat market and 70 shoguns get into overpricers hands... Shoguns are now decreasion though... and everything seems to be stabalizing. But still it shocked economy good. So if you restock, please do so with new hats.

New collectables might be a good idea too.. though they'll have to be in somewhat large numbers so price will remain same. (50-70).

ANyhow if there is no reset, creat partial stabalizing! That donation cup helped alot, but then someone restocked stores with 400 hats of ones type and there goes economy. I hope Admins will cre for economy more now.


NO MORE NEW THINGS TO COLLECT! T

ZanderX 07-08-2002 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ghost Pirate
Around about now around a few months back there was around 130+ On Graal now theres only 50?
I don't call that a improvement

90.

Which is an improvement from 10 this time last month.

Ghost Pirate 07-08-2002 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZanderX


Understand that one of the focal points of my career as manager is to ruin the economy.


To Ruin the Graal "Economy" Reset the server
No money, no economy


However what your doing is

Adding more hats = Rasing the Economy
Adding more gralats on the server = Raising the Economy

Torankusu 07-08-2002 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZanderX


There are only so many people who have upgraded. It's an increase from what we had before, whether the fault of Graal 2002 or not.

Hm, let's see.

I'll look at the logs.

Recently, the max players are... 89.

before the release of 2002... Around 130-140. Things were a lot better, people wanted a server reset, there was no point.

Now people are walking around with 100,000+ gralats (59k thanks to kamuii.) Economics shouldn't be what graal2001's about. Have a complete inventory, and other statistics like that reset, and convert all of the jobs/tools, and whatnot into items for quests. Money and hats shouldn't be what keeps players here, quests and events should.

Ghost Pirate 07-08-2002 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZanderX


90.

Which is an improvement from 10 this time last month.


This time last month Graal2002 was still a in thing

All you did was get the Graal2002 people...

Birdbird_0 07-08-2002 08:07 AM

yes please.

ZanderX 07-08-2002 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ghost Pirate



To Ruin the Graal "Economy" Reset the server
No money, no economy


However what your doing is

Adding more hats = Rasing the Economy
Adding more gralats on the server = Raising the Economy

Have you ever heard of the Great Depression, Ghost Pirate? Apparently not.

At any rate, I'm leaving all discussions like this permanently. I'm sick and tired of them and I see no point in continuing to argue with people who cannot understand nor comprehend my motives.

Ghost Pirate 07-08-2002 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZanderX


Have you ever heard of the Great Depression, Ghost Pirate? Apparently not.

At any rate, I'm leaving all discussions like this permanently. I'm sick and tired of them and I see no point in continuing to argue with people who cannot understand nor comprehend my motives.

Yes I did

there was also A Hat Depression on Graal but I don't think that is needed


but you forget

Graal's "Economy" is the exact opposite of real life's Economy

Androk2k1 07-08-2002 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZanderX


90.

Which is an improvement from 10 this time last month.

10, when Graal 2002 had 150-170 and blew up NPC Server lol.
Belive me, Graal 2001 is in overall decreason of population.

Graal 2001's lost potential will be shown to you again Kamuii as soon as 2002 releases ALL ISLANDS! 2002 will become what 2001 once was... exept with not so needed "wicked" gfx and a feel of somewhat another game.

Talking about new HP/new bodys. Graal originally was Zelda Online, after making those new bodys you lost soul of Graal and made it into something else... I mean 2 years people got used to that Graal Feel, you lost very many people after crushing it.

ZanderX 07-08-2002 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Androk2k1

Talking about new HP/new bodys. Graal originally was Zelda Online, after making those new bodys you lost soul of Graal and made it into something else... I mean 2 years people got used to that Graal Feel, you lost very many people after crushing it.

I return from my self imposed exile to make one post:

I did not make the new bodies.

I did not impose the new bodies.

I had nothing to do with the new bodies.

So, why, praytell, do idiots like you continually blame me for them?

GOODBYE!

Torankusu 07-08-2002 08:15 AM

Yeah, let's keep this stupid roleplaying on 2002. All you people seem to do is blow up castles and destroy peoples' work(s).

HP needs to go, submit your "magic ideas" to the roleplaying server, 2002. No offense vermain, but that seems to be your only reason on wanting to keep the new things. Enlighten me.

Kamuii, "a few months ago" before YOUR "few months ago" there was around 130 to 140+(plus) players on graal2001. Statistically, we've dropped about 50. Now, the max limit has been 89. Hey, it could be these new bodies and HP that was put on 2001, not wanted or anything. Argh. Stefan said it can be rescripted and removed, do people just ignore it?

Yeah, you can abolish hats costing money, bring back the old ONE HAT wearing thing, and the hat giving item, delete all needs for money except for buying minor tools (fishing rod, hammers, axes, and stuff like that) and have people CRAFT ITEMS FOR QUESTS and release new quests. Roleplaying is for 2002 now.

Graal518 07-08-2002 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZanderX
No.

Python523 07-08-2002 08:15 AM

an economy reset couldn't hurt but I don't see much improovment in the future, anything new people will easily be able to afford
my funnest times on 2k1 were when I was always trying to get money for new things, if we redid a lot of jobs to make them more than D pushers then reset the economy, I think it would work

Brad 07-08-2002 08:16 AM

DeathChill:
Who cares? Graal is funny :D
I never played so never really gave a damn about that stuff, maybe that's why I was one of the few high staff who never gave himself money or hats or anything. :cool: Atleast I don't recall doing it lol So I never increased the crappiness of 2001 by giving myself stuff harhar

Androk2k1 07-08-2002 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZanderX


I return from my self imposed exile to make one post:

I did not make the new bodies.

I did not impose the new bodies.

I had nothing to do with the new bodies.

So, why, praytell, do idiots like you continually blame me for them?

GOODBYE!

forget about bodys, just reset 2001. There are tons of points WHY YOU SHOULD, and I still haven't heard anything for why it shouldn't be reset... because there are NONE!

Also By calling me idiot and uniting me with "other idiots" you insulted my deeply, because I do not think of my self as idiot. I did not feel need to insult you, why would you find need to insult me?

As for my message it was meant to 2001 Staff (And Stefan) as general, however english word "you" doesn't really allow me to show it, unlike russian word that is translated as "you", so you took it personally though it was not intended that way.

Zolrieg 07-08-2002 08:26 AM

In one ear, and out the other.

magicbud3344 07-08-2002 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad


No.

My ego is too high for that. If you knew me, you'd know how arrogant I really am.


your AIM name says it all my furry friend

Googi 07-08-2002 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZanderX

I see no point in continuing to argue with people who cannot understand nor comprehend my motives.

I never congradulated you on reaching 10K posts, I just wanted to make sure you knew that.

DarkHero2002 07-08-2002 08:41 AM

i think the money should reset, i cant stand poeple with over 50 K running around....no fun for poor people


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