Who hates Dustari becuase they took over Samurai? - Page 9

SabreKnot · #**321** 01-01-2002, 06:18 PM

I have to agree with him there, I have seen 1 or 2 people with a Samurai tag on and its very rare.

Juron Pilo · #**322** 01-01-2002, 06:19 PM

even if it was dieing... it was not his decision to rebuild them...

SabreKnot · #**323** 01-01-2002, 06:20 PM

I am a member of Dustari, but a new one, so heed my questions as neutral in the matter because I do not even begin to have the power to speak for dustari, so I am speaking for me.

Where were you before Kamuii did this? I never saw anyone trying to build Samurai back up.

Juron Pilo · #**324** 01-01-2002, 06:22 PM

I am a former Dustarian... and let me say that I am slightly bias against Kamuii... but I am trying to speak from my logic... I am from noone now...

Kasuagi · #**325** 01-01-2002, 06:25 PM

the dustarian king didn't want the samurai guild to die like it seemed it was, it was travelling a road to defeat. the only solution was obvious, kamuii made the right decision!

Juron Pilo · #**326** 01-01-2002, 06:25 PM

What I DO have is the words of feival for they're "plans". If they say they do... then I will trust that they do.

Juron Pilo · #**327** 01-01-2002, 06:26 PM

it was a decision that was not his right to make!

SabreKnot · #**328** 01-01-2002, 06:29 PM

But no one was making it! It is like rolling bread, if you leave it alone, someone will come along and claim it, although it seems to me that Kamuii just wanted to jump start it!

Wing · #**329** 01-01-2002, 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by SabreKnot
But no one was making it! It is like rolling bread, if you leave it alone, someone will come along and claim it, although it seems to me that Kamuii just wanted to jump start it!

Yes,

For the last time, Dustari is not trying to take Samurai over!

Juron Pilo · #**330** 01-01-2002, 06:32 PM

according to fieval he and Dante had plans to rectify the situation... even if they would have probably failed... they should be given their chance...

SabreKnot · #**331** 01-01-2002, 06:34 PM

Dante is a good person who wants what is best for the Samurai, I agree, and I also agree that it will never be the same, but why cant it be better? Publicity to get everyone re-interested in the Samurai might spark up interest in roleplaying in general to many.

ZanderX · #**332** 01-01-2002, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by Juron Pilo
If the poor man refuses aid... don't give him money.. however honest the intentions... you literally instilled their leader... making them no longer a state...

whee, I gave them a leader and then left the moment after.

Wow, I have SO completely warped them out of what they were and politically infringed on them! I am still doing so, too! Wow! Get a brain.

Juron Pilo · #**333** 01-01-2002, 06:37 PM

oh, by putting in a leader they wish for they are turning Samurai into a principality.... you can interfere with a government without "taking control"... even if he did take a little... and how I am having keyboard problems... namely that I keep having to reselect the freaking text box

Juron Pilo · #**334** 01-01-2002, 06:40 PM

Wow! Go back in time and live in England!

Juron Pilo · #**335** 01-01-2002, 06:42 PM

How did Rome control other countries? They instilled their own leaders that THEY chose.... but those had total control... ooh

Zelgadis_Geywords · #**336** 01-01-2002, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by Gene-Starwind
ok ok i will leave it alone but wow am i famous yet

No. But you have annoyed me with your poor display of punctuality. Congrats.

(No, I'm not actually annoyed, and your sentence structures don't bother me. But don't ask such questions. ^_^)

Juron Pilo · #**337** 01-01-2002, 06:45 PM

as a side point... I think I went up more than a 100 posts today

ZanderX · #**338** 01-01-2002, 06:50 PM

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Originally posted by Juron Pilo
How did Rome control other countries? They instilled their own leaders that THEY chose.... but those had total control... ooh

Oh, joy. Are you making me out to be Rome, you *****?

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I do not want control of Samurai. I invaded Samurai, placed Wing on the Imperial Throne and LEFT.

I have no intention of interfering in Samurai politics, short of finding a peaceful solution to the current problem.

Juron Pilo · #**339** 01-01-2002, 06:52 PM

but you DO want to control them... you saw wing and thought his ideas matched closer to your own than anything they had... so you made him their leader... THAT IS CONTROLING THEM

Wing · #**340** 01-01-2002, 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by Juron Pilo
but you DO want to control them... you saw wing and thought his ideas matched closer to your own than anything they had... so you made him their leader... THAT IS CONTROLING THEM

You have no idea about my ideals

Juron Pilo · #**341** 01-01-2002, 06:55 PM

You have no idea about Samurai's ideals

Wing · #**342** 01-01-2002, 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by Juron Pilo
You have no idea about Samurai's ideals

You have no right to say that

Juron Pilo · #**343** 01-01-2002, 07:02 PM

Where did I loose my right? You had no right to make judgements for the Samurai. Especially not to involve foriegn aid so you could take over...

Wing · #**344** 01-01-2002, 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by Juron Pilo
Where did I loose my right? You had no right to make judgements for the Samurai. Especially not to involve foriegn aid so you could take over...

When did you even HAVE your right? it's not like I just came out of the blue and said "Hey, I feel like I will take over samurai today"

Juron Pilo · #**345** 01-01-2002, 07:04 PM

You still did it

Valder · #**346** 01-01-2002, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by Juron Pilo
You have no idea about Samurai's ideals

I have some sence of samurai ideals and believe me wing can get them across pretty well.

Wing · #**347** 01-01-2002, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by Juron Pilo
You still did it

Not without reason.

Wing · #**348** 01-01-2002, 07:06 PM

It's not like you have any idea of your arguments anyways

feivel · #**349** 01-01-2002, 07:08 PM

You can just say,
"oh well we gave them there chance and we did not see results,"
Who are you to hand out chances anyway?
I am done arguing,
we both think we are right,
so we will just have to let things fall in place,
two different mentalities
two different socieies,
lets leave it that way,
stop trying to impose western influence

Juron Pilo · #**350** 01-01-2002, 07:08 PM

*sighs*.... ENOUGH! If there is a detail I have left out I know not what it was... and since I am merly an interested party and not technically involved.... when the true head of my side has long left... I shall leave this arguement for now.

Juron Pilo · #**351** 01-01-2002, 07:10 PM

and thus my post becomes useless as I find out feivel has indeed not left but merely left me alone to defend his arguement?!

Juron Pilo · #**352** 01-01-2002, 07:13 PM

unless you mean Graal-map wise please do not call it "Western Influence"

Wing · #**353** 01-01-2002, 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by feivel
You can just say,
"oh well we gave them there chance and we did not see results,"
Who are you to hand out chances anyway?
I am done arguing,
we both think we are right,
so we will just have to let things fall in place,
two different mentalities
two different socieies,
lets leave it that way,
stop trying to impose western influence

I am willing to compromise with you, you made no attempt to consider though, never ever replied and then said "Oh I thought you wanted to compromise!"

Wing · #**354** 01-01-2002, 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by Juron Pilo
unless you mean Graal-map wise please do not call it "Western Influence"

I think he means it that way

Juron Pilo · #**355** 01-01-2002, 07:17 PM

since it never should have happened... there is no need for compromise... and what you mean is "come back and we'll forget this ever happened". Now that I think of it this all reminds me of a book! Anybody read the Wheel of time series? Wing could play the role of a certain red ajah successor in the white tower...

feivel · #**356** 01-01-2002, 07:23 PM

actually i left to take a shower,
and i meant western influence graap map wise,
and Winglet me hear what you want,
and you know what,
i dont play graal to get in such heated political arguments were peope isult my intelligence, I am RPing, these are the views of my character, they may appear radical to you,
but they are perfectly normal for him and his angered Samurai bretheren, I do not want to comprimise I want you gone Wing,
and

OOC: You know in graal sometimes its good to let it all end up in a showdown, graal is supposed to have battles and whatnot but when people are yelling at you for peace its not so fun, Kamuii your arguments are that of a 2001 world leader,
but were in midevil type times, and there wouldnt be such a big deal about fighting rebellions etc,
that people would point and cry bloody murder, you could blame us if thats your view, but dont get into a stupid peace discussion that someone in medevil times couldnt even think up.

Juron Pilo · #**357** 01-01-2002, 07:25 PM

that was a VERY BAD MOVE fieval

ZanderX · #**358** 01-01-2002, 07:35 PM

respect for dash sinks through the basement into the plumbing.

i will explain later when i wake up. sleep now. lessthanthree for wing and valder and trueheat and birdbird and catacyst...um.

feivel · #**359** 01-01-2002, 07:37 PM

Look im veyr tired ive been up all night,
although i know most of the stuff I meant to say,
I probly didnt work it the way it should have been,
im sorry if i insulted anyone,
I might have got out of hand in trying to prove my point,
m sorry if i insulted you,
but I am not gonna stop fighting

Juron Pilo · #**360** 01-01-2002, 07:38 PM

I agree... I hereby (and this is final) end my defense of him... I still think what you did was wrong though