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Gene-Starwind 01-01-2002 01:15 PM

Who hates Dustari becuase they took over Samurai?
 
ME!!!!!! ME!!!!! one more time ME!!!

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 01-01-2002 01:21 PM

If all of you cared so much about Samurai then you would have left the castle to rot (literally). You would have defended it and upheld it's name in honor. Now the ex-Samurai members who were never on in the first place think it's an outrage just because Emperor Wing is going to do a better job than before :rolleyes:

Gene-Starwind 01-01-2002 01:22 PM

you are right i would have loved to help them but I WAS IN JAIL FOR 3DAYS!!!

Spectre1337 01-01-2002 01:23 PM

aftershock you zi cool, did joo see my comic? o_o

Keyan 01-01-2002 01:25 PM

GRRRRRRRRR
I got on one day and my samurai tag WAS GONE.
I was meikoo ever since trueheat gave me the tag the day the castle went up!
I WANT SAMURAI BACK!

(and if no one is emperor, i'll gladly become emperor and start samurai over....i got some free time on my hands)

IceHawk 01-01-2002 01:25 PM

I am Samurai, and I support Dustari and their efforts, umm yeah.

Gene-Starwind 01-01-2002 01:25 PM

i did that was alot of laughs

cshank4 01-01-2002 01:34 PM

i hated dustari no matter what but im zormite so i was busy defending OUR castle because a dustari said they were gonna attack us

ZanderX 01-01-2002 01:59 PM

I like how you're all a bunch of idiots.

I didn't take over Samurai and I never will.

01-01-2002 02:07 PM

I like this situation jsut because its fun, conflict = GREAT.

ZanderX 01-01-2002 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by TDK_Admin2
I like this situation jsut because its fun, conflict = GREAT.

Conflict rocks. :D

I should have expected people would spread misinformation and try and make myself and Dustari look bad, though.

01-01-2002 02:17 PM

I wish I would have thought up some misinformation at the time, is it still gonig on?

Whitey1 01-01-2002 02:18 PM

bah how kingdoms died on 2001?

ZanderX 01-01-2002 02:19 PM

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Originally posted by Whitey1
bah how kingdoms died on 2001?
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

Metal-Slug 01-01-2002 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX



Conflict rocks. :D

I should have expected people would spread misinformation and try and make myself and Dustari look bad, though.

keke, rumors are phun cuz dey cause die fight

Whitey1 01-01-2002 02:21 PM

how many different Kingdoms died on graal?
like how Samurai is dead....what other ones died besides it?

01-01-2002 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by Metal-Slug


keke, rumors are phun cuz dey cause die fight

KARAKZE IS ALIVE

ZanderX 01-01-2002 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by Whitey1
how many different Kingdoms died on graal?
like how Samurai is dead....what other ones died besides it?


Samurai isn't dead, I wish people would stop spreading bad rumors.

Tyealia, Curon, Sikon, Artareo are the four Kingdoms I remember that have been on or tried to get on 2k1 that have failed.

Metal-Slug 01-01-2002 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by TDK_Admin2
KARAKZE IS ALIVE
ograte, i got sisok's STD!@#$

Whitey1 01-01-2002 02:24 PM

well it is almost dead

01-01-2002 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by Whitey1
how many different Kingdoms died on graal?
like how Samurai is dead....what other ones died besides it?

its not dead, its just in a new age, all kingdoms go through this.

Whitey1 01-01-2002 02:26 PM

true like Zormite almost died but Zak became Emporer and he recruited...Samurai should just get a new emporer

01-01-2002 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX



Samurai isn't dead, I wish people would stop spreading bad rumors.

Tyealia, Curon, Sikon, Artareo are the four Kingdoms I remember that have been on or tried to get on 2k1 that have failed.

TAKE KARAKAZE OFF THAT LIST, WE ARE ALIVE!

Whitey1 01-01-2002 02:28 PM

is Karakaze Cave still up or did it get a new level?

01-01-2002 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by Whitey1
is Karakaze Cave still up or did it get a new level?
we're not going to use that cave, Nightlord ruined it.

Whitey1 01-01-2002 02:31 PM

your bringing back Karakaze Troupe?

FatherDante 01-01-2002 02:32 PM

Since this seems to stress Kamuii out, I'll explain clearly.

The kingdom "Samurai" is not dead. In fact, you can all expect to it to be more "active" than ever.

However, the institution of "Samurai" is dead: Murdered by Kamuii and Wing. their utter disregard of the principles that the kingdom once stood for leaves those of us who once appreciated loyalty, discipline, justice, and honour out alone as the kingdom once known as samurai is replaced by a basic replica of Dustari: complete with selfishness and mediocrity.

So, is it better? Maybe. More active may be better. But, it really breaks my heart, now that I see how rare honour is in the hearts of men, and how meaningless it is in the hearts of those others.

Metal-Slug 01-01-2002 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by FatherDante
Since this seems to stress Kamuii out, I'll explain clearly.

The kingdom "Samurai" is not dead. In fact, you can all expect to it to be more "active" than ever.

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you tell him dante

ZanderX 01-01-2002 02:37 PM

It stresses me out when people don't seem to understand that I did this because I did not want to see Samurai fall apart and die which was what was going to inevitably happen. Don't tell me otherwise because then you'd be lying to yourself.

How is Samurai a copy of Dustari now that I've put a former Emperor back on the throne? It has no Dustari influence whatsoever. None that I see, at any rate...

Kasuagi 01-01-2002 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX
It stresses me out when people don't seem to understand that I did this because I did not want to see Samurai fall apart and die which was what was going to inevitably happen. Don't tell me otherwise because then you'd be lying to yourself.

How is Samurai a copy of Dustari now that I've put a former Emperor back on the throne? It has no Dustari influence whatsoever. None that I see, at any rate...

i agree with you there. i never see anyone from samurai wearing their tags or even trying to recruit. i hope samurai doesn't die and lives up to everyones expectations

FatherDante 01-01-2002 02:45 PM

A monarchy with a selfish and immature king, that's a good replica of Dustari. Members who want royal titles, that's a good replica of Dustari. If you wanted to "save" Samurai, congratulations, because you saved the population of a GUILD TAG! But if you wanted to kill the samurai spirit we were founded on, congratulations, because you succeeded in that also. Saved us? Tell that to the 5 or so true samurai who discovered today they now have no kingdom behind them. Samurai was the pillar of virtue, the most selective kingdom. So we didn't pick up enough trash to have enough members to satisfy you? Fine. Let the kingdom be inhabited with trash like Dustari. Because the moral makeup of samurai is now the same as Dustari, it doesn't matter what it looks like or what the names are, it is Dustari, plain and true.

Kasuagi 01-01-2002 02:46 PM

wow, this is getting pretty good

*grabs some popcorn and hits refresh*

IceHawk 01-01-2002 02:47 PM

Dante, that "spirit" died long ago, sadly.

FatherDante 01-01-2002 02:50 PM

In you, maybe, IceHawk. But we had just finally reached the point I'd been hoping for: the point where there was not a single weak point in the kingdom. Nobody asked the samurai what they wanted, they just whiped it out and started over! In effect, Samurai has been destroyed, and replaced with a new kingdom in the same level of the name "samurai."

Lugie 01-01-2002 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by IceHawk
Dante, that "spirit" died long ago, sadly.
Because people abandoned us.

ZanderX 01-01-2002 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FatherDante
A monarchy with a selfish and immature king, that's a good replica of Dustari. Members who want royal titles, that's a good replica of Dustari. If you wanted to "save" Samurai, congratulations, because you saved the population of a GUILD TAG! But if you wanted to kill the samurai spirit we were founded on, congratulations, because you succeeded in that also. Saved us? Tell that to the 5 or so true samurai who discovered today they now have no kingdom behind them. Samurai was the pillar of virtue, the most selective kingdom. So we didn't pick up enough trash to have enough members to satisfy you? Fine. Let the kingdom be inhabited with trash like Dustari. Because the moral makeup of samurai is now the same as Dustari, it doesn't matter what it looks like or what the names are, it is Dustari, plain and true.
I just lost any respect I had for you, Dante. By calling my Kingdom trash, my members trash, six months of long, hard work trash, you have severed ANY friendly ties you might have had with me.

I am not selfish. I may act immature at times, but I am not selfish. Neither is Wing. Wing may be more immature than me, but he is younger than me is well. Would you prefer someone who is in college to have the throne, Dante? The fact that Wing is similar to me in some ways does not make Samurai a replica of Dustari.

Any member of any Kingdom with Royalty wants a Royal Title. It's a fact of life, human greed, and it cannot be denied. Saying that that makes Samurai a replica of Dustari is rubbish.

I want to save the Kingdom Samurai, yes. I could give a damn less about "Samurai Spirit", because, quite frankly, in the past couple weeks, there has been little or NONE that has showed itself. I wanted to give Samurai a chance at rebuilding itself, no matter what the cost, and I have succeeded and I am happy with myself for that. I know that I have made some people happy and brought another chance for a faltering entity.

Yes, it may have been a Kingdom of Virtue, the "Pillar" as you say, a selective Kingdom. But that doesn't mean it is GOOD, Dante. If I had not done what I did, someone, someday, would invade Samurai and your Kingdom of Virtue would be reduced to NOTHING. This way, it has a chance at survival.

There is no "moral makeup" of Samurai, because there are few, if any, new members yet. How can you make such assumptions? The fact that you call my entire Kingdom trash is absolutely preposterous, rude, and, to put it bluntly, stupid.

Samurai and Dustari are nothing alike. Not in name, not in makeup, in no way are they alike, other than the fact that they are Kingdoms.

SabreKnot 01-01-2002 02:52 PM

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*lightens up the mood of the thread*

Kasuagi 01-01-2002 02:52 PM

one thing we know for sure. samurai will never be the same kingdom guild it was

TrueHeaT 01-01-2002 02:53 PM

Dante's right enough as usual.

Kasuagi 01-01-2002 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by SabreKnot
*lightens up the mood of the thread*
mmm, yummy goblin

you could cut the tension in this thread with a knife


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