IS SPIDER THE BSET EVER? - Page 2

vergil · #41 06-12-2001, 11:57 PM

HEY YOU GUYS I AM THE BEST TEST SCRIPTOR THERES NO DOUBTABOUT IT

NPC Code:

if (playerenters) {hurt 23490238423490;}

pure GENIOUS

anyway in my expierence anyone who calls all images relating to Graal "gifs" doenst know what theyre talking about, GIF is an image format, its not the -only- one. and certainly not the only one in Graal

Neonight · #42 06-13-2001, 12:00 AM

Fine whatever. I'm tired of *****ing with you guys. I'm not going to play "who can be the bigger ass."

Kaimetsu: The bank allows you to deposit,deposit all,withdraw,withdraw all,show balance. IT also has the script in it for the *system* NPC and will delete the script within it if you already have the system NPC. Say: you have the system NPC from the 1st lvl. If you buy the bank account , the system script inside the bank will not function because you already have one. I also added another script inside the NPC to keep cheaters/hackers to get money fast. I have encrypted the GT and MTC code inside the NPC so if you use it, it will give you newbie stats, take all of your money, and ban you.

that's most of the script.
Radio: hooked up to a radio station near me (with permission) so you could ACTUALLY listen to real music and not little tiny 30 second long midis. Yes these buffer through my 2nd computer (cable so it runs all day long 24 hours a day) and it converts the songs into midis to run through your computer. Yes it had a bit of lag and I was going to put it up on Graal at the end of the summer, but like I said the virus wiped my C

drive.

vergil · #43 06-13-2001, 12:02 AM

...um, do YOU even know what you just said?

Neonight · #44 06-13-2001, 12:02 AM

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Originally posted by vergil
HEY YOU GUYS I AM THE BEST TEST SCRIPTOR THERES NO DOUBTABOUT IT

NPC Code:
if (playerenters) {hurt 23490238423490;}

pure GENIOUS

anyway in my expierence anyone who calls all images relating to Graal "gifs" doenst know what theyre talking about, GIF is an image format, its not the -only- one. and certainly not the only one in Graal

Yea I know but I make gifs more than png formats. There are about 20 different types in NEopaint (program that I use)

Kaimetsu · #45 06-13-2001, 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by Neonight
Kaimetsu: The bank allows you to deposit,deposit all,withdraw,withdraw all,show balance. IT also has the script in it for the *system* NPC and will delete the script within it if you already have the system NPC.

Kaimetsu estimate: 30 lines needed.

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I have encrypted the GT and MTC code inside the NPC so if you use it, it will give you newbie stats, take all of your money, and ban you. that's most of the script.

"GT" and "MTC"?

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Radio: hooked up to a radio station near me (with permission) so you could ACTUALLY listen to real music and not little tiny 30 second long midis. Yes these buffer through my 2nd computer (cable so it runs all day long 24 hours a day) and it converts the songs into midis to run through your computer. Yes it had a bit of lag and I was going to put it up on Graal at the end of the summer, but like I said the virus wiped my C drive.

You're saying it streams directly from a radio station onto Graal's servers?

Kaimetsu · #46 06-13-2001, 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by vergil
anyway in my expierence anyone who calls all images relating to Graal "gifs" doenst know what theyre talking about, GIF is an image format, its not the -only- one. and certainly not the only one in Graal

Um... I sometimes do that and I certainly know what I'm talking about.

Neonight · #47 06-13-2001, 12:05 AM

GT and MTC are hacking tools. Yes u r correct about the radio. (Used a lot of space on my ocmputer tho. A little over 1 GB) No the GT and MTC codes are in the bank script. That itself takes about 550.

Neonight · #48 06-13-2001, 12:07 AM

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Originally posted by vergil
anyway in my expierence anyone who calls all images relating to Graal "gifs" doenst know what theyre talking about, GIF is an image format, its not the -only- one. and certainly not the only one in Graal

Yes. I think I know what I'm talking about.

Nai · #49 06-13-2001, 12:09 AM

GT and MTC? You idiot, those are hacking programs for Graal! Also, they are Hard-Coded. You cannot Hard-Code DLLs into Graal NCP Scripts because it would say like, "Unkown Command, "sdkjsdkjsadj". What an idiot...

Kaimetsu · #50 06-13-2001, 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by Neonight
GT and MTC are hacking tools. Yes u r correct about the radio. (Used a lot of space on my ocmputer tho. A little over 1 GB) No the GT and MTC codes are in the bank script. That itself takes about 550.

...you put some code for a hacking tool in your NPC?

vergil · #51 06-13-2001, 12:13 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu

Um... I sometimes do that and I certainly know what I'm talking about.

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in my expierence

i dont know you and ive never talked to you before

Neonight · #52 06-13-2001, 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by Nai
GT and MTC? You idiot, those are hacking programs for Graal! Also, they are Hard-Coded. You cannot Hard-Code DLLs into Graal NCP Scripts because it would say like, "Unkown Command, "sdkjsdkjsadj". What an idiot...

IS THAT NOT WHAT I SAID? HACKING TOOLS? God damn vergil learn to read. It isn't a dll file it's converted to a PTF (I believe I don't remember) THEN converted to gif. All pictures are, are little scambled up letters and numbers. Like the binary code. If you convert a gif then open it in wordpad, it'll show you.

Kaimetsu · #53 06-13-2001, 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by vergil

i dont know you and ive never talked to you before

You were saying that your experience suggested a statistical trend. I simply disproved this trend. I didn't say that your statement was incorrect.

vergil · #54 06-13-2001, 12:14 AM

Kaimetsu i think hes trying to say he put anti-cheating protection in his NPC. wooohoo thats hard..

Nai · #55 06-13-2001, 12:15 AM

MTC AND GT ARE NOT NPCS! THEY ARE CODED DLLs AND OTHER CODING FILES! THEY HAVE FILES THAT RUN THROUGH OTHER THINGS SUCH AS GRAAL OR AIM! You cannot convert Coded Files into GIFs you idiot.

vergil · #56 06-13-2001, 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by Neonight

IS THAT NOT WHAT I SAID? HACKING TOOLS? God damn vergil learn to read. It isn't a dll file it's converted to a PTF (I believe I don't remember) THEN converted to gif. All pictures are, are little scambled up letters and numbers. Like the binary code. If you convert a gif then open it in wordpad, it'll show you.

da what/ who..>? where???
i'm not Nai I'm vergil, Nai posted that..

Neonight · #57 06-13-2001, 12:16 AM

Well everyone I'm gonna play 2k1 now. LOL Nice talkin to ya :-p

Nai · #58 06-13-2001, 12:17 AM

Are you going to hack 2k1 considering you have GT and MTC?

Neonight · #59 06-13-2001, 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by vergil

da what/ who..>? where???
i'm not Nai I'm vergil, Nai posted that..

ER... sorry then I guess. ?

Kaimetsu · #60 06-13-2001, 12:18 AM

Basically... it seems he has converted a hacking thingy into raw code, and placed it in his NPC. To prevent against errors, he has presumably commented out the whole thing. The question, then, is... Why?

Nai · #61 06-13-2001, 12:19 AM

How can you stop hacking with a hacking tool though? Got ya there dont I!

vergil · #62 06-13-2001, 12:19 AM

Nai let me explain this to you.

I THINK Neoknight is trying to say that if someone uses GameTrainer of Magic Trainer creator, his NPC script will detect it. How is this possible? Well, if the trainer say... gives you 10000 rupees, its very easy for an NPC script to check for his rupee amount every 10 seconds and if it jumps from 0 to 10,000 rupees in 10 seconds, the NPC knows something is wrong, and the player's probably cheating to get that money. It will check for other values... like walking speed and sword power... and if it does think your cheating, it'll place you in jail or whatever punishment it sees fit.

Nai i think you have got this totally wrong.,.. this has nothing to do with what your describing..

Neonight · #63 06-13-2001, 12:19 AM

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Originally posted by Nai
Are you going to hack 2k1 considering you have GT and MTC?

Oh yea *sarcastically* I really want to hack the server I'm trying to get a job on. Umm hmmm

Nai · #64 06-13-2001, 12:20 AM

If you have hacking tools you wont get a job...

Neonight · #65 06-13-2001, 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by vergil
Nai let me explain this to you.

I THINK Neoknight is trying to say that if someone uses GameTrainer of Magic Trainer creator, his NPC script will detect it. How is this possible? Well, if the trainer say... gives you 10000 rupees, its very easy for an NPC script to check for his rupee amount every 10 seconds and if it jumps from 0 to 10,000 rupees in 10 seconds, the NPC knows something is wrong, and the player's probably cheating to get that money. It will check for other values... like walking speed and sword power... and if it does think your cheating, it'll place you in jail or whatever punishment it sees fit.

Nai i think you have got this totally wrong.,.. this has nothing to do with what your describing..

By George, he's got it! LOL THANK YOU!

Kaimetsu · #66 06-13-2001, 12:22 AM

Gah, then why did you talk about "MFC and GT code"?

ANYWAY, you shouldn't bother with things like that. Stefan will include them himself if they become necessary.

vergil · #67 06-13-2001, 12:24 AM

yeah i was wondering what he was talking about encrypting the code.. what..? heh.

T-Squad · #68 06-13-2001, 01:01 AM

all ive got to say is:
ne0knight is a fool...

i scripted my day/night is about 15 minutes 2 days ago, using 0 NPC Server functions, but it will still work for all players...you know what is called? you are probably to much of an idiot to figure something this basic out...its called timevar....oh and gscript only reads gscript..not programming you fool....bank system is also easy to make...
for one thing, i wouldnt question Kai on his scripting knowledge, I myself can by far surpass this ninja guy, and kai can at this time easily surpass me......kai has mad tile altering skills for one, and is the 3rd best scripter i know of...Stefan being first and kyle0654 being second....anyway ne0night you sound like a damn n00b so please shut up you are very annoying, you are just making your server look bad

Kaimetsu · #69 06-13-2001, 01:04 AM

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Originally posted by T-Squad
kai has mad tile altering skills for one, and is the 3rd best scripter i know of...Stefan being first and kyle0654 being second....

Dang... looks like I've still got some beating to do...

activeconvict · #70 06-13-2001, 01:47 AM

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Originally posted by Nai
Are you going to hack 2k1 considering you have GT and MTC?

Almost impossible with NPC Server.

activeconvict · #71 06-13-2001, 01:51 AM

And actually Tyhm is probably the 2nd best...

Kaimetsu · #72 06-13-2001, 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by activeconvict
And actually Tyhm is probably the 2nd best...

I actually kinda hate it when non-scripters go around saying who is the best. In truth, the only people capable of gauging who is better than who are the expert scripters themselves.

And even then, great scripters don't necessarily know about other scripters. I don't know how good Tyhm is, for example, because I'd need to see some things that he has achieved. I'm really fuzzy on who exactly is the best, and certainly too fuzzy to make a definitive ordered list.

activeconvict · #73 06-13-2001, 02:01 AM

I never said he was, I said he probably is, he's Graal Classics Lead Scripter last I knew.

Kaimetsu · #74 06-13-2001, 02:03 AM

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Originally posted by activeconvict
I never said he was, I said he probably is, he's Graal Classics Lead Scripter last I knew.

True, but that doesn't say anything in particular. Sure, it says he's good but can it assign him an arbitrary position? Nah. Plus, what about the NewWorlders? I bet they've got people even better than Stefan.

activeconvict · #75 06-13-2001, 02:06 AM

They probably do, I know of a couple people that are in the New World Team, but I'm not going to leak it or tell anyone. Loriel's a pretty good scripter too. I script a little, I'm not the best, I need to take some C++ classes.

Kaimetsu · #76 06-13-2001, 02:10 AM

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Originally posted by activeconvict
They probably do, I know of a couple people that are in the New World Team, but I'm not going to leak it or tell anyone. Loriel's a pretty good scripter too. I script a little, I'm not the best, I need to take some C++ classes.

C++ isn't necessary. If anything, Graal is a good way to learn C++.

Huggles · #77 06-13-2001, 02:12 AM

Update:

I decided and I hope the crew looks at this

We will use a different system for NPCW's list

Backpacks...... Like the trade system you will choose what elvel or what kind of weapon you will use and it will use it.....

Say Trade to drop it or sell it

There will be
Clothes Backpacks, Weapons, Work or Accesories, spells, and etc. =-)

Kaimetsu · #78 06-13-2001, 02:16 AM

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Originally posted by Huggles

We will use a different system for NPCW's list

Copout! That feature isn't new.

Huggles · #79 06-13-2001, 02:22 AM

I dont mind if its not new I just thought of it and how it would benefit my world......

T-Squad · #80 06-13-2001, 03:20 AM

new system for NPCWs???? did i miss a graal update...?

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