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Old 09-06-2001, 06:33 AM
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Well, I didn't mean to insult the condition of the staff. I missdirected my thoughts. It is very difficut for me to put my thoughts and emotions to paper, If anyone got any misleading information form my pervious posts, thats not what I meant to say, I am sorry for my opinyons before, very inacurate discripton of what I was trying to say, So this is what I was really tring to say,

The staff situation is doing their jobs fine, I did not mean to direct my argument in their directions, its the in game aspects itself. Such as adding new features, items, and attractions to graal. I realize now that this argument has been brought up many many times before, but how can you attract more people, when there is only one person that can add to the game? (yes Stefan) The adminastration is doing great, but its not the adminastration I am talking about, its the things that attract players, the things that make people wanting to come back for more, the things that prevent hate threads on the bords, and costomers frizzing about things that could be helped. Graal needs constant in game additions, not just things here and there. Right now the game is mostly run on player to player interaction for entertainment, and mindless botton pressing for money, even though gralets make the world go round, one day people might realize that gralets are not life, and eventualy demand more satasfaction from the server. Stefan, you are always stressed over graal because you put all the work on yourself and not on your staff. Your staff are as capable as your staff can be, and you could have a bit more trust in them, because graal cannot be run by one single man, its a team effort.

Thats all I think I have to say about this matter now. I appologze for anything else that I have said reguading the amout of work and dedacation the staff has, I can only say that I did not mean to do any harm to anyones emotions, insult their abblitys, or abblity to preform. Mr Bear is now back, and now he is training his staff on most of the tools provided, In a few weeks they will be capable of handling their jobs to the fullest of their abblitys, but you need to start to trust.
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Old 09-06-2001, 06:52 AM
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Birdbird, you're right, but it isn't exactly easy to trust someone with that much power.. I mean there are corrupt POLICE.. and they barely have power at all.. Nearly all staff do something corrupt with their powers.. and a lot of times, no one finds out about it..

Like when I was FAQ on classic long ago I remember some FAQ members would purposely send newbies and people they didn't like to detention.. I mean seriously.. if most people can't even use a detention npc without being corrupt, how many people could handle being able to upload things to the server and update levels that shouldn't be updated yet.

One reason I believe stefan doesn't give out that kind of power is because things are more organized with only one person running the main area. If other staff had the power to upload things like stefan, we would end up with miscommunications, stuff uploaded when it has bugs, things that don't go together properly.. etc..

Imagine one day "staff member #1" adds a new job, and later that day "staff member #2" doesn't get any notice of the job and accidentally uploads his levels over the new ones.. That could pose as a problem

Of course I think a small team of dedicated admins that worked closely together could probably be a really good thing for Graal.
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Old 09-06-2001, 07:47 AM
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Personally, I think the best idea is to sell administrative positions for real money.
Cyberjeouer would get more income and nobody would get a position they don't deserve.
And if they don't do their job, it's their own loss, a complete waste.
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Old 09-06-2001, 05:41 PM
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But it would be weird to pay for doing work?
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Old 09-06-2001, 05:45 PM
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Yeah I don't think anyone wants to pay to work. Let alone get fired and lose money in the process.. Too many arguements would start because of people saying they paid to work for graal and got fired.. It's bad enough with people complaining about paying to play graal and stuff happens that doesn't go their way.

And stefan, I'm always open for an admin job you know
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Old 09-06-2001, 06:17 PM
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We allready pay for work. We have to buy an account, and in turn, if we devote ourselves and dedicate our work, we become Administrators. Now then, I'm not sure what the requirements to get paid for work is, but ya never know..
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Old 09-06-2001, 06:39 PM
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Yeah I don't think anyone wants to pay to work. Let alone get fired and lose money in the process.. Too many arguements would start because of people saying they paid to work for graal and got fired.. It's bad enough with people complaining about paying to play graal and stuff happens that doesn't go their way.

And stefan, I'm always open for an admin job you know
Konidias, your account has been made. Try to log onto classic as soon as you read this, account name is: konidias_GFX, password was the one you requested in the e-mail you sent me. I'll make you your tag now.
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Old 09-07-2001, 03:14 AM
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We need game officers that can commit themselves to work for a certain minimum of hours per day, and do their job while they are "working".
they are too cool and too important to work or answer questions
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Old 09-07-2001, 03:20 AM
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they are too cool and too important to work or answer questions
I would gladly and willingly take that job... and plus, I wouldn't be like all the stuck up police (Sorry Lamer).

Unlike quite a few people, I actually am a nice Admin!

Unfortunately no one really notices....
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Old 09-07-2001, 03:26 AM
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haha..Even getting a job is impossible for me (Excluding Level maker ;-) ART are barely on and when they are on they're usually on as "-away" And of course no matter what I do (ahahha..I even have Merlin's support I doubt I could get on it)2 People for like 100 and some odd people is definetly not enough but anywho.MY FIRST POST IN HERE! *GASP*
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Old 09-07-2001, 03:31 AM
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Funny how I get on everyday (Or almost everyday) Wanting to help like I used to be able to. I wish I had a part time job as an ART or something. That way people that have complaints about being stuck or crap with bomys (Like somethin being messed up) then I could help....
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Old 09-07-2001, 03:38 AM
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I wish I had job as part time ART too and I even have Merlins support!The Asst.Accounts Admin supports me!*GASP*But it won't happen because WIng is almost never on and Lamer comes on and says 'Thanks for playing graal2001"" and logs off.
Stefan should hire Gonmon and I for Asst.ART's..We come on to assist the 2 other ART's!BWUAHAH!I'd do it too...I'm on everyday almost and when I go on it's for like 5 hours at a time!*(^)$@&
But Stefan won't hire Gonmon or i!It's not his department..Anyway.OOgACHAKA
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Old 09-07-2001, 04:31 AM
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Old 09-07-2001, 04:35 AM
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Old 09-07-2001, 05:13 AM
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Of course it would be weird to pay to do work but obviously people want to work very hard and they always complain about it.

Nobody would ever have a right to complain about administrators who don't deserve their jobs anymore because they would have all paid fair and square for the prestige of carrying a meaningless title in a video game.
Don't ask me what motivates people.

The only problem is, if no work got done and not enough people were buying staff positions, then it would be difficult to fill their places.

But still, if people want to argue so much about it, you have to wonder why they desire to work so much. And according to the principles of economics, if demand is high and supply low- as is the case with Graal privileges- than the price must rise.

Well, currently, staff positions are free. Which means, in order for prices to rise, people must pay to work.
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