Gun Skins!

[GanNing]

Waiting for dat fn-scar h skin.

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by Venom_Fish

I'm waiting for my Mp5 SD gun skin

i'm sure white skin would be nice

[Supaman771]

Custom skins pls?

[ilovegirlzz]

ok guns that need skins.
ove
neo
mt
tg
sg552

oh and can skins be a little cheaper. same with changing the colors of your cars why do i pay 5k for a car but it costs 9k to change color? should be a few thousand dollars like 2-3k to change same with guns..kthx

[Dragon551]

We already have every gun that's on Era basically ready in the skin list, but the ones that have no skins or haven't been prepared yet aren't listed. Since we had/have a lot going on with the holidays we don't really have people working on skins, but they'll be rolling out as soon as they're made.

As for the price, they were already lowered by a significant amount. When we first released the system there was a formula put in place to make the skin price depend on the price of the gun, skins could cost up to 50k depending on the gun. They were lowered (posted on page 1 of this thread I think) soon after to just 10-20k.

[Godzilla]

You could have a random player relation working on the skins while the development staff are doing whatever they're doing.

I mean, who can't recolour a weapon 3 or so different shades of a colour?

[shrimps]

I can't.

[salesman]

chris vimes can't either

[Tim_Rocks]

What we need is more black gun skins.

[Zongui]

you should focus on the guns that players use the most. then do the less popular weapons.

[ilovegirlzz]

Originally Posted by Dragon551

As for the price, they were already lowered by a significant amount. When we first released the system there was a formula put in place to make the skin price depend on the price of the gun, skins could cost up to 50k depending on the gun. They were lowered (posted on page 1 of this thread I think) soon after to just 10-20k.

too damn high man

[shrimps]

Flak skins please.

[Scoper]

and PL-9's QQ

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

Originally Posted by Godzilla

You could have a random player relation working on the skins while the development staff are doing whatever they're doing.

I mean, who can't recolour a weapon 3 or so different shades of a colour?

I'm just gonna say that I think it's lame to ask staff to do something that isn't their job.

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P

I'm just gonna say that I think it's lame to ask staff to do something that isn't their job.

Let's be honest.

PR's haven't done anything since the MD/Fidel Era(s) when they were assigned to hunt down and persecute spawners/usder/scammers/etc. When all the big busts happened, when surprisingly... Godzilla was actually the best PR you could find (that kid would be online 24/7 doing twerk).

The secret was though, that the manager himself was the one spawning/usding it all... so it was more or less a circle of work for them. Tim finished his tutorial, and everything has been babied down.. the FAQ arena is pretty obsolete.
Trading is practically idiot proof (though I've known the occasional person to fail), but it really takes 3-5 minutes to find an item or reverse a trade.. especially with Blue's FB. There's no active and/or player admins to spawn anything. There's very few 'limited' items anymore to track.
So the GP side could very well be handled by one half-active admin who knows how to use an RC. I know I did it myself, back when player traffic was doubled; hell I maintained half the admin positions on a few EraHours a day... better than any of these singular administrators. You just gotta find the right person.

ITT
What is their job anymore?

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

Originally Posted by Supaman771

Let's be honest.

PR's haven't done anything since the MD/Fidel Era(s) when they were assigned to hunt down and persecute spawners/usder/scammers/etc. When all the big busts happened, when surprisingly... Godzilla was actually the best PR you could find (that kid would be online 24/7 doing twerk).

The secret was though, that the manager himself was the one spawning/usding it all... so it was more or less a circle of work for them. Tim finished his tutorial, and everything has been babied down.. the FAQ arena is pretty obsolete.
Trading is practically idiot proof (though I've known the occasional person to fail), but it really takes 3-5 minutes to find an item or reverse a trade.. especially with Blue's FB. There's no active and/or player admins to spawn anything. There's very few 'limited' items anymore to track.
So the GP side could very well be handled by one half-active admin who knows how to use an RC. I know I did it myself, back when player traffic was doubled; hell I maintained half the admin positions on a few EraHours a day... better than any of these singular administrators. You just gotta find the right person.

ITT
What is their job anymore?

Just because they don't have very much work doesn't mean you should make them/ask them to do something completely unrelated to their job. When there's a slow crime day, you don't ask police to help build a bridge, do you?

That's just my opinion though (mostly stemming from the PMs I get from people asking me to do PR work, which is pretty annoying, considering I'm a GFX/Scripter.)
People have actually said I'm useless for not doing PR work, which isn't my job in the least.

I think it would be pretty lame if it was the other way around and PRs are being called useless because they aren't doing GFX work.

[papajchris]

Originally Posted by Supaman771

Let's be honest.

PR's haven't done anything since the MD/Fidel Era(s) when they were assigned to hunt down and persecute spawners/usder/scammers/etc. When all the big busts happened, when surprisingly... Godzilla was actually the best PR you could find (that kid would be online 24/7 doing twerk).

The secret was though, that the manager himself was the one spawning/usding it all... so it was more or less a circle of work for them. Tim finished his tutorial, and everything has been babied down.. the FAQ arena is pretty obsolete.
Trading is practically idiot proof (though I've known the occasional person to fail), but it really takes 3-5 minutes to find an item or reverse a trade.. especially with Blue's FB. There's no active and/or player admins to spawn anything. There's very few 'limited' items anymore to track.
So the GP side could very well be handled by one half-active admin who knows how to use an RC. I know I did it myself, back when player traffic was doubled; hell I maintained half the admin positions on a few EraHours a day... better than any of these singular administrators. You just gotta find the right person.

ITT
What is their job anymore?

Ace Detectives Zeus and Alfonso on the job!

[Godzilla]

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P

Just because they don't have very much work doesn't mean you should make them/ask them to do something completely unrelated to their job. When there's a slow crime day, you don't ask police to help build a bridge, do you?

That's just my opinion though (mostly stemming from the PMs I get from people asking me to do PR work, which is pretty annoying, considering I'm a GFX/Scripter.)
People have actually said I'm useless for not doing PR work, which isn't my job in the least.

I think it would be pretty lame if it was the other way around and PRs are being called useless because they aren't doing GFX work.

That's the thing, you should be utilizing every skill you have when you're apart of the staff team, if a PR can recolor a bunch of guns, they should be doing it.

I remember being a PR and still being considerably involved in all of the development that was going on (recoloring things, fixing levels links, adding statues for event winners, (spar tourneys etc), finding a bunch of hats we could release in the SR hatshop then eventually getting rights to be able to swap and recycle in and out hats, helping bug test every new event, quest and giving input on added guns, a lot of other things, probably a lot more rights than I should of had as a PR but with my activity and contribution I was trusted with those rights and shortly after became the PRA) I was helping in every aspect I could and at the same time taking millions out of the economy which was in-fact the pot twist of the management doing the spawning.

I guess my time as a staff member wasn't the norm though, I was manipulated into thinking that the team I was on were a good bunch of lads when in-fact half of them were doing the very thing I spent hours on end trying to figure out and then reversing. (That same Staff Team stabbed me in the back and the management excluded me when I was close to finding logs of him spawning)

In the end I just think everyone should be putting their 5 cents in wherever they can. If there was no crime one day and a police man was needed to build a bridge and was ABLE to build a bridge, why shouldn't he?

[-HateD-]

Okay so I blame your ***** ass for making my hats worthless. Pay up nerdo

[Godzilla]

Originally Posted by -HateD-

Okay so I blame your ***** ass for making my hats worthless. Pay up nerdo

I only added hats that didn't exist on Era to the hat store and we only added 5 of each, if someone recycled in existing hats, it wasn't me and was way after my time as a staff member.

[Zongui]

nobody got time for that stuff. most of the prs right now are to lazy or to busy. the only ones that I usually see on are logababy, scooper, and raz. forgot about kenji. lipton plays like a total of 5 min a month. no idea how he is still pr. well now that i think about it, lipton is really the only inactive pr.

maybe the other prs don't know how to do that coloring stuff though? era is looking for gfx people too and all that. big help sign wanted with era staff right now.

the basic colors look easy enough. like painting a gun all pink or blue or whatever. then there is the shading, which i haven't done before, so i don't know how hard/long it takes. of course the skins like desert camo are more detailed, so they took a lot longer to do.

never been fan of a gun just being one color though (throw some black in there or something), so i don't mind if staff are taking a long time to make more detailed skins. actually, i did recolor a head before. felt like it took forever though because the head was detailed with a lot of pixels being of different colors.

[GanNing]

IMO the best skins in the game belong to the MS.

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

Originally Posted by GanNing

IMO the best skins in the game belong to the MS.

I think the MS is a close second, but I like the ACR skins the best. And the raygun luger XD

Originally Posted by Godzilla

In the end I just think everyone should be putting their 5 cents in wherever they can. If there was no crime one day and a police man was needed to build a bridge and was ABLE to build a bridge, why shouldn't he?

I'm not saying they shouldn't help out, I'm just saying I don't think they should be expected to.

On top of that, police men are almost certainly less experienced and less qualified to build a bridge than a construction worker, and I imagine there are some sort of regulations against that sort of thing (random people building public works.) The same way PRs probably don't have very much experience with Photoshop or GIMP and don't have the rights necessary to upload images and add them to the skins system.

[MonkeyBob]

Some of the dumbest things I have ever heard in my life has been said on this post. Let's just let PRs do graphics and let scripters be PRs.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by MonkeyBob

Some of the dumbest things I have ever heard in my life has been said on this post.

[GanNing]

"I think the MS is a close second, but I like the ACR skins the best. And the raygun luger XD."

Oh yeah the ACR definitely got some good skins too. The camo skins are always nice. I went to every weapon on the list and bought all available gold skins.

[shrimps]

Originally Posted by MonkeyBob

Some of the dumbest things I have ever heard in my life has been said on this post. Let's just let PRs do graphics and let scripters be PRs.

lol

[Godzilla]

Originally Posted by MonkeyBob

Some of the dumbest things I have ever heard in my life has been said on this post. Let's just let PRs do graphics and let scripters be PRs.

You seem to never post anything worth-while, it's always some hate filled post against someone you dislike in hopes that your little butt buddies will follow your posts with a +1

You're missing the point completely if you think that's how I'm stating things. If you're able to do something, do it. It's that simple, take the initiative to start doing those things and you will get further in the Staff Team.

I can tell you now if a PR Cadet was able to recolor and define the different shades in a gun with the simple set of colors you have on other guns then showed it to his PRA the PRA would fall in-love with him. It might not have anything to do with PRing but it's a helping hand on the developers who have bigger projects than to recolor a gun 5 times for 30 minutes.

I guess you're just not seeing it how I am, It's all about a helping hand, if you're able to do something just do it. It's like when I was asked by an old friend if I would have any idea on accounts that might have spawned/illegal items, I pmed him 90 accounts and over half of them had staff weapons or spawned items because they were previously staff. I did it because I could, If I had Graal installed I could probably recolor the remaining guns that don't have their set of colors (Mainly because I'm on holidays and other than my girlfriend coming over every few days I don't have much to do)

I guess what I was trying to say is; Just do it, if you can do it, do it, It will help everyone out in the long run... It's an extra-hand that you can give so you should give it.

I mean, it might sound far-fetched and silly to some of you but that's just because the Era community is so full of hate towards everyone, which I find ridiculously stupid but will never change.

Good luck with gun skins though, I agree on making more unique skins if any of the graphic team get a chance.

[Rave_J]

Its because Zach scared his friends might lose their jobs on the PR.
To be staff on era doesn't matter how good your skills are but who you are friends with... Again all Era staff is to me is a group that has a private chat room on graal.
Nothing change really since Rick revamp era then over the years every manager been tearing it apart and every manager wants to revamp some system that was done earlier era history that failed... Gang system with points - was done with Jenn era I even told you guys your wasting your time.. Party systems - Jenn still kill gang system like i told you guys..

[-HateD-]

I swear there are like 4 or 5 "oldbies" that I just cannot understand due to their brain degradation from drug abuse or other things of the like. Godzilla is right that if people can help and are staff (purely volunteer position) that they should do so. Zach and Fiber just want to argue with him tooth and nail because god forbid he ever did anything right. Stop being butthurt and look towards the future.

[BlueMelon]

I believe the main point that has come across here is that if you're on the staff team and are able to do more then your assigned task and are willing to help/can balance the workload of multiple tasks, go for it. This is already being done of the staff team, some PR's might have graphics access already as might some LAT's have limited script access.

Edit: Same thing goes to the community, if you can create some amazing GFX or can make creative levels (and are willing to contribute to the server), we would gladly accept your help/contributions.

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

Originally Posted by -HateD-

I swear there are like 4 or 5 "oldbies" that I just cannot understand due to their brain degradation from drug abuse or other things of the like. Godzilla is right that if people can help and are staff (purely volunteer position) that they should do so. Zach and Fiber just want to argue with him tooth and nail because god forbid he ever did anything right. Stop being butthurt and look towards the future.

I think you're unfairly lumping me together with Zach.
I wasn't disagreeing with Godzilla. People should help out if they want to.
It only becomes a problem, in my eyes, when people begin to expect staff to do more than what their job entails.

"You're a PR that doesn't do graphics? Way to be lazy."

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P

I think you're unfairly lumping me together with Zach.
I wasn't disagreeing with Godzilla. People should help out if they want to.
It only becomes a problem in my eyes when people begin to expect staff to do more than what their job entails.

"You're a PR that doesn't do graphics? Way to be lazy."

Do we even need PR's? I don't think so. We have a support system in place for people to use and admins can sort issues out through that. We don't even need PR's. What do they even do apart from warp around annoying people.

Gun skins, jeez man. Who gives a ****? Matter of fact, who the **** even wants a pink gun? Seriously. Grow the feck up.

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

Do we even need PR's? I don't think so. We have a support system in place for people to use and admins can sort issues out through that. We don't even need PR's. What do they even do apart from warp around annoying people.

Gun skins, jeez man. Who gives a ****? Matter of fact, who the **** even wants a pink gun? Seriously. Grow the feck up.

I'm not even really sure why you're directing that at me, but I think you should read what you wrote and think about who actually needs to grow up.

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P

I'm not even really sure why you're directing that at me, but I think you should read what you wrote and think about who actually needs to grow up.

I didn't direct nothing at you. Maybe you need to learn how to read?

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG

I didn't direct nothing at you. Maybe you need to learn how to read?

Oh sorry, I just thought the fact that you quoted me and didn't address anyone in particular by name meant that you were talking to me.

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P

Oh sorry, I just thought the fact that you quoted me and didn't address anyone in particular by name meant that you were talking to me.

I actually didn't mean to quote you. Retard moment.

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

Well, putting that aside, Having PRs around for when they actually do have work to do couldn't hurt. I also don't think gun skins are hurting anything. Everyone likes different stuff.

[Kohola_KinG]

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P

Well, putting that aside, Having PRs around for when they actually do have work to do couldn't hurt. I also don't think gun skins are hurting anything. Everyone likes different stuff.

The work they do could be done by an Admin or somebody on the development team. Let's face it, PR work is not hard, you just have to dig up a few logs. Takes a few mins at most.

Most of the development team just warp around unstick not knowing what to do, i could name but i wouldn't do that. Nothing wrong with giving them PR rights to give them something to do when they aren't development and yeah i'm pretty sure they aren't most of the time.

Gun skins, whatever but all this fuss about it? That's when it's laughable. It's a gun skin man, what the hell is all the fuss about? Who cares ffs, nothing stoping people changing their gun skins in their graal folders they can have any skin they want...

[shrimps]

Actually you can't edit the GFX on Era any more if I'm not mistaken, you get DCed and I think it alerts RC? Not sure, but if the file is changed it's a no no, and holy crap you guys are arguing about stupid things. Where are the Forum mods?

As for Pink gun skins?