Gun Skins!

[Dragon551]

Hello!

After much wait, gunskins are here! You can activate the menu by simply saying '/skins' in-game.

At the moment, we are only releasing selected guns and skin colors to the public. More will become available as time passes. Currently, there are 3 ways to purchase skins:

• Money
• Event Coins
• Mystery Coins

Along with more guns being released in the near future, we are planning on allowing more currencies to be used when purchasing skins. The price for each skin depends on the price of the gun, meaning the pricier the gun, the more skins for that gun will cost.

You are not able to trade skins with other players, once you buy a skin you keep it with you even after you sell your gun.

Please report any bugs you may come across to me or any other staff member!

[Kohola_KinG]

Good job Alf. Maybe this will open the door to gun attachments in the future.

[papajchris]

Love you alf

[Tim_Rocks]

Sweet feature, I also like the GUI skin as well.

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

Sweet feature, I also like the GUI skin as well.

I made the GUI skin

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P

I made the GUI skin

Did you complete all the skins available to GUI's? I'd be willing to go through a few scripts and update the skins.

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

Did you complete all the skins available to GUI's? I'd be willing to go through a few scripts and update the skins.

I only did the ones necessary for that GUI. But I could do the rest, if you want to use it for other systems.

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P

I only did the ones necessary for that GUI. But I could do the rest, if you want to use it for other systems.

That'd be awesome; I really think we need to standardize all the GUI's so at maximum we only use two themes.

[Supaman771]

Nice!

Now would it be possible (well it would.. but would you guys go for it) to have a option to submit custom gun skins.

Same functionality as uploading heads. Except it would cost mad $$ and have to be admin approved like Gang Apps.

?

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

I'm 95% behind that.
the 5% is because I don't think it should cost any money to upload a skin.
You'd still have to buy the skin anyway, so one person shouldn't have to pay extra to add something to the game that would be available to everyone.

Unless you're talking about personal skins :O

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P

I'm 95% behind that.
the 5% is because I don't think it should cost any money to upload a skin.
You'd still have to buy the skin anyway, so one person shouldn't have to pay extra to add something to the game that would be available to everyone.

Unless you're talking about personal skins :O

I meant like, you upload your own skin, similar to uploading a head. (Yeah, personal skins)
In which you pay to add it, and u get it at the same time (like a gang).
If it isn't quality enough and gets refused, you get refunded.

They already asked for submissions for public skins. I thought part of the concept of this was customization and individuality. I wouldn't want to make myself a skin and then see everyone else using it.

Or it could always be a check mark when uploading, to make it public or private (like heads). Then just add a fee to privatizing it. Maybe even guild-only privatization (hue).

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P

I'm 95% behind that.
the 5% is because I don't think it should cost any money to upload a skin.
You'd still have to buy the skin anyway, so one person shouldn't have to pay extra to add something to the game that would be available to everyone.

Unless you're talking about personal skins :O

This makes things a little more complex BUT... I strongly feel it should not just cost an entry fee to submit skins but a large entry fee.

The redeeming factor here is that I also believe the person who submits the skin should make a small percentage of the profits from every skin sold.

This way people are discouraged from submitting low quality skins and rewarded for submitting high quality (high sales volume) skins.

[-HateD-]

Originally Posted by Stephen

This makes things a little more complex BUT... I strongly feel it should not just cost an entry fee to submit skins but a large entry fee.

The redeeming factor here is that I also believe the person who submits the skin should make a small percentage of the profits from every skin sold.

This way people are discouraged from submitting low quality skins and rewarded for submitting high quality (high sales volume) skins.

Era doesn't have a big enough playerbase for this kind of economics. Waste of developers' time in my opinion.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by -HateD-

Era doesn't have a big enough playerbase for this kind of economics.

Yes, it does.

[-HateD-]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Yes, it does.

Stephen you're on for maybe an hour a week actually doing stuff. 80% of the time people are just afk/idling at unstick. Gun skins are awesome and all, but I think people would rather see something new gang wise than a skin market with uploads/profit.

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

Originally Posted by -HateD-

Era doesn't have a big enough playerbase for this kind of economics. Waste of developers' time in my opinion.

I agree. Not to mention that the people who would actually be capable of making quality skins is a small subset of that already small playerbase.

Also I feel like I should address this:

Originally Posted by Godzilla

I really hope that you have created some more unique looking skins, recolors are nothing to be proud about.

The plan was to make basic colors for every gun, that way there would at least be SOME skins for every gun, THEN to start making custom, good-looking skins.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P

I agree.

The playercount of GK is much smaller than Era and generates significantly more gelat sales daily. Playercount is a moot point.

Originally Posted by -HateD-

Gun skins are awesome and all, but I think people would rather see something new gang wise than a skin market with uploads/profit.

It doesn't have to be one or the other. Also, quality is a relative term. So long as something is nicer than the last it is considered "higher quality". Players don't expect masterpieces.

If Era can improve their value in Graal Online then a few VERY beneficial opportunities become available. Would you rather your low quality $100 Era Dollar gun skins in an uncompetitive market today or a significantly better server in 6 months? Your choice boss.

[Dragon551]

Hmm, the skin submission is possible of course, I'm not against the idea either. So who knows, it may be added in the future

Anyways, after much discussion with Zachary and some other fellow staff members, we've refunded everyone's money/currency for their gun skins and have lowered the prices. Along with lower prices, we've also added every skin to every currency, meaning you can buy any skin with either EC's, Mystery Coins, or regular money!

We've also released every gun skin for the guns we currently have listed. However, we still have many guns we are still working on, so don't worry! More guns will be listed as they are finished.

If there are any problems at all, or if you think you did not receive your skin refund, please contact me or any other administrator in-game!

Thanks!
Era Staff

[Godzilla]

I really hope that you have created some more unique looking skins, recolors are nothing to be proud about.

[MonkeyBob]

Hi, I'm Zach!

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

Originally Posted by Stephen

The playercount of GK is much smaller than Era and generates significantly more gelat sales daily. Playercount is a moot point.

It doesn't have to be one or the other. Also, quality is a relative term. So long as something is nicer than the last it is considered "higher quality". Players don't expect masterpieces.

If Era can improve their value in Graal Online then a few VERY beneficial opportunities become available. Would you rather your low quality $100 Era Dollar gun skins in an uncompetitive market today or a significantly better server in 6 months? Your choice boss.

When did we start talking about Gelats?

No offense, but GK isn't exactly the gold standard for games that I want to play, let alone spend money on, so using it to make your point doesn't convince me that what you're saying is a good idea.

I would argue that players do expect masterpieces.

what beneficial opportunities are you referring to?

Skins don't cost $100.

You're super overselling your idea.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P

You're super overselling your idea.

Originally Posted by Henry Ford

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.

What you're suggesting is an incremental change. What I'm suggesting is a radical change. I know it's scary and confusing for a lot of people who don't understand the far reaching effects but it would be really beneficial for this server.

If Era can prove it is as valuable or more valuable than iServers it may be enough to not just secure a role in the future but step up beyond Graal PC. So I'll ask again - do you want to have your skins today for whatever era-dollar value they have and have a very bleak future or do you want something incredible in 6 months? I anticipate your answer will still be "don't make me think".

[-HateD-]

Originally Posted by Stephen

What you're suggesting is an incremental change. What I'm suggesting is a radical change. I know it's scary and confusing for a lot of people who don't understand the far reaching effects but it would be really beneficial for this server.

If Era can prove it is as valuable or more valuable than iServers it may be enough to not just secure a role in the future but step up beyond Graal PC. So I'll ask again - do you want to have your skins today for whatever era-dollar value they have and have a very bleak future or do you want something incredible in 6 months? I anticipate your answer will still be "don't make me think".

If we had the perfect world with a perfect development team and could make everything instantaneously, then yes this would be awesome. We don't though, so stop taking it so seriously and being all gung-ho. Dev's time would better be spent elsewhere.

[Kohola_KinG]

Anyways. Yes, booger is right. Development would be better spent elsewhere. Skins should be our last concern.

[bloodykiller]

changing gun colours, this is what era needs!!!!!!!!!

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

changing gun colours, this is what era needs!!!!!!!!!

It's a market place for customization. There is more in development on Era than this.

[Godzilla]

It's a shame that I was framed into being excluded from Era, would be great to watch the game I grew up with grow, I on the hand have to completely agree with Stephen, anything that can shine to be a next-generation type of feature will secure your chances of ever merging or becoming a iPhone v2 server.

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

Originally Posted by Godzilla

It's a shame that I was framed into being excluded from Era, would be great to watch the game I grew up with grow, I on the hand have to completely agree with Stephen, anything that can shine to be a next-generation type of feature will secure your chances of ever merging or becoming a iPhone v2 server.

No one cares that you were banned and no one takes pity on you because you use the word "excluded" instead of "banned". The real shame is that not one thread can be free of you peppering in stuff about your personal problems.

I don't have a personal stake in your business, but I've gone a while without saying anything and it's just kind of annoying, really.

What you should really be doing is not mentioning it at all. That way, people will eventually forget about it, 3 managers will go by, and you'll be back by mid 2014, all without us having to suffer your sob story.

[MonkeyBob]

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P

No one cares that you were banned and no one takes pity on you because you use the word "excluded" instead of "banned". The real shame is that not one thread can be free of you peppering in stuff about your personal problems.

I don't have a personal stake in your business, but I've gone a while without saying anything and it's just kind of annoying, really.

What you should really be doing is not mentioning it at all. That way, people will eventually forget about it, 3 managers will go by, and you'll be back by mid 2014, all without us having to suffer your sob story.

What he should be doing is moving on with his life. Literally all this kid does is complain about every single little thing anyone does ever, much like booger. It will be a dark day when he returns to Era. Under my management, he was never supposed to be unbanned. This only occurred because he wasn't placed under a normal ban, it was purely VID, which ran out some time during my management. You should be grateful that you were allowed to stay as long as you did.

[Scoper]

Shape up sons, dis be disgraceful to read

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by Stephen

If any of that is true it sounds like there's room for improvement.

That's basically the life story of the past 4? managements. For once I agree with TK.

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P

3 managers will go by, and you'll be back by mid 2014

While I agreed with the entirety of your post, this was hilariously accurate and kinda just got slipped in there.

Good show.


Still really want custom gun skins. I already made like 6 purple recolors and a sweet cat-minigun.

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

Originally Posted by Supaman771

Good show.


Still really want custom gun skins. I already made like 6 purple recolors and a sweet cat-minigun.

Thanks.

On topic, how much would you pay for custom skins, if you were to get, say a 30% kickback from sales? Like, how much would you expect to earn, and would it even be reasonable to expect to make a profit when it's based on how many other people buy your skin, which has a market limited to the people who own the gun for which your skin was made?

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P

On topic, how much would you pay for custom skins, if you were to get, say a 30% kickback from sales? Like, how much would you expect to earn, and would it even be reasonable to expect to make a profit when it's based on how many other people buy your skin, which has a market limited to the people who own the gun for which your skin was made?

I'd check off the private button for all of them. I made them to match me, as would everyone else I assume. I would pay probably 25-50k (depends on the gun, you wouldn't spend 50k on a 50k gun) to be able to do whatever I wanted with a gun template. I don't want people ripping on my style.

The marketing scheme of that idea is too elaborate for a simple concept (colorful guns) imo. If people want public customs added, they can become gfx artist on Era.

[bloodykiller]

iphone era sucks, nobody who knows how to PK on era actually plays for more than a week on iphone
it has more players because every app in the app store is advertised for free. era has never been advertised and our non payed staff members make gun skins and release OP free guns (when they're not spawning stuff) instead of bettering the server

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

iphone era sucks, nobody who knows how to PK on era actually plays for more than a week on iphone
it has more players because every app in the app store is advertised for free. era has never been advertised and our non payed staff members make gun skins and release OP free guns (when they're not spawning stuff) instead of bettering the server

If any of that is true it sounds like there's room for improvement.

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by Stephen

If any of that is true it sounds like there's room for improvement.

when there's a change in management on era i always think things can't get worst, but somehow they always do

[Scoper]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

when there's a change in management on era i always think things can't get worst, but somehow they always do

At first I came here to make fun of the grammar, but then I realized, he's being brilliant -- if every managerial change is worse than the last, then things are always at their worst.

ha! go Tk
that is what you meant right right amirite

[BlueMelon]

inb4 offtopic thread gets closed because of ban talk

[Godzilla]

I'm not even going to bother rebuttaling to the patheticness of some of the people who play this game. I'm making a simple statement though; I would rather see the game shine than die, make movements towards that, not the other way.

[Venom_Fish]

I'm waiting for my Mp5 SD gun skin