Playerworlds Server Lag

[Crow]

Originally Posted by -HateD-

The "high MS means really laggy" comparison doesn't really hold true on era.

It always does. You know the ms in ping measurement stands for milliseconds, right? Milliseconds it takes for a server to answer a client. The longer it takes for the answer packet to arrive at the client, the "laggier" it gets, naturally.

[-HateD-]

Originally Posted by Crow

It always does. You know the ms in ping measurement stands for milliseconds, right? Milliseconds it takes for a server to answer a client. The longer it takes for the answer packet to arrive at the client, the "laggier" it gets, naturally.

I don't think you're getting what I'm saying, but since you've never really played era as far as I know it would be hard to explain. I can have up to 300 ms and not "eat bullets" on other peoples screens because I have a strong connection. Players with bad connections (take one of the kids from the virgin islands Danne4Life who never goes under 1k ping) will almost always eat bullets and warp around the screen.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by -HateD-

I don't think you're getting what I'm saying, but since you've never really played era as far as I know it would be hard to explain. I can have up to 300 ms and not "eat bullets" on other peoples screens because I have a strong connection. Players with bad connections (take one of the kids from the virgin islands Danne4Life who never goes under 1k ping) will almost always eat bullets and warp around the screen.

I don't think you understand what latency is. There is no such thing as a "strong" connection.

[-HateD-]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

I don't think you understand what latency is. There is no such thing as a "strong" connection.

Any other idea how to explain high ms not equating to people eating?

[Crow]

Originally Posted by -HateD-

I don't think you're getting what I'm saying, but since you've never really played era as far as I know it would be hard to explain.

Last time I checked, I had I believe around 1700+ hours of online time. Could be slightly off. Also, what Chris said.

[-HateD-]

Originally Posted by Crow

Last time I checked, I had I believe around 1700+ hours of online time. Could be slightly off. Also, what Chris said.

You must not PK much then

[Crow]

Originally Posted by -HateD-

You must not PK much then

I have, in the past. Quite a lot, actually. That has nothing to do with you not having a grasp of networking basics, though.

[-HateD-]

Originally Posted by Crow

I have, in the past. Quite a lot, actually. That has nothing to do with you not having a grasp of networking basics, though.

You're not really making an argument here other than saying "you don't know what you're talking about therefore you're wrong"
From what I saw in the past you were a good scripter and did some cool work on era and other servers, but you're not proving anything. If you PK on Era and see the relationship between latency affecting gameplay it's not what you'd initially think. Intuitively, it makes sense that higher MS means that someone is going to eat bullets, warp, etc, but that's not the case. There really is no simple correlation between the two which is what I'm getting at. Hopefully you understand now.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by -HateD-

There really is no simple correlation between the two which is what I'm getting at. Hopefully you understand now.

There has to be, as there is really no other way. As Ziro said, shoot() is a clientside function, and so are projectiles. Basically, once you shoot your gun, it takes roughly half your ping's time for the info to reach the server, then roughly half of each one's ping time to reach them. Once the projectile has appeared for another player, it can also hurt them. Depending on how long it took for it to appear, it'll be behind, since it will always appear at the position you shot it from. So if you see someone "eating", it's just because the projectile has not reached them yet on their screen. There's no magic involved here, just lag.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by -HateD-

You're not really making an argument here other than saying "you don't know what you're talking about therefore you're wrong"

That's generally a pretty strong argument.