If this thread were to be in jeopardy due to this rule, I wouldn't know whether to laugh or cry. Promoting the real life use of alcohol via conversation or photographic flaunting is a lot different to promoting harmless consumption of a (cartoon style) pixel beverage in a game, towards purposes of fun.
I don't see the difference.. I believe if every game used this comment as their own many games would allow alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, and sex..
You'd be amazed with how much the media can influence people lol..
Especially making a game out of something that isn't necessarily good.
I think a better argument would be that the graphics were used in the past and thought of okay, they should be okay now "then leave it at that". Since it really isn't a good thing. o.o
Or better yet, have the liquid in the cup unnamed, which would fix everything..
I don't see the difference.. I believe if every game used this comment as their own many games would allow alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, and sex..
I think you have to consider whether the in game visual is comparable to the real life equivalent.
Sexual intercourse is in general morally wrong for a young child to witness in real life, so regardless of whether the first person character of a game is invoking such action, it's obvious that a young child should not be witnessing that.
In terms of drinking a beer or smoking a cigarette all that's happening in game is that you're seeing an avatar consume them. Is it wrong for a child to merely see another person in real life drink alcohol or smoke?
Is it wrong for a child to merely see another person in real life drink alcohol or smoke?
If you are asking me if I believe that it is influencing their want to try it, yes...
And then if you take into account the desire to have what they are told they cannot have... Yes..
I do believe people who don't have others drinking or smoking around them are less likely to participate lol.. Unless of course they see it in the media, and I'm not saying they won't see it in stores, but I don't think they would have the desire to want it if it is seen in a store.
But I also believe sex would be less of a problem if parents were more open about it, and it started younger while the parents are more knowledgeable of the happenings.. Since it would be better for one to have sex in a place that is safe and known, than out somewhere random, or in a car lol.. Not saying the parents should watch them or anything...
Kind of like drinking, if kids started around 18, they would most likely be around their parents and less crazy with it while they ARE out on their own.. Since they have already experienced it..
Those last two paragraphs are for the most part off topic though.. Yes, I believe that it is an influence.
If you are asking me if I believe that it is influencing their want to try it, yes...
And then if you take into account the desire to have what they are told they cannot have... Yes..
I do believe people who don't have others drinking or smoking around them are less likely to participate lol.. Unless of course they see it in the media, and I'm not saying they won't see it in stores, but I don't think they would have the desire to want it if it is seen in a store.
But I also believe sex would be less of a problem if parents were more open about it, and it started younger while the parents are more knowledgeable of the happenings.. Since it would be better for one to have sex in a place that is safe and known, than out somewhere random, or in a car lol.. Not saying the parents should watch them or anything...
Kind of like drinking, if kids started around 18, they would most likely be around their parents and less crazy with it while they ARE out on their own.. Since they have already experienced it..
Those last two paragraphs are for the most part off topic though.. Yes, I believe that it is an influence.
So what about Graal having swords and guns?
If showing cartoon beers being consumed influences children to try it, I can only imagine what having a game that revolves around killing people with a sword or gun might do!
So what about Graal having swords and guns?
If showing cartoon beers being consumed influences children to try it, I can only imagine what having a game that revolves around killing people with a sword or gun might do!
Are you kidding o.o;;
Have you never seen any stories about Grand Theft Auto? lol...
It is definitely an influence to some who don't know better.
Graal doesn't use much blood from what I've seen.. Nor do I think people carry swords as often as Guns in real life lol.. As for guns, that is another story. Era could easily put blood upon death.. I don't know, I guess I see more games with swords and guns than I do drinking.
More of the norm?
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^you saying that kids drinking pixel beers on graal is a negative influence.
Exactly what I said. As long as it is stating the pixelated drinks are beers.
However slight it may be, it is an influence.
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unless they see it in the media...drinking and smoking is in tons of TV shows and movies, not even rated MA or R TV/movies. seeing someone drink a beer and have a good time in a tv program/movie will be more influencial than seeing a character in a game (graal) drink a beer and have no effect on the character.
Correct. Still influential none-the-less.
Drunk.gani back in 2005 was definitely a pretty cool effect in my opinion.
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contradicting.... if they drink around there parents at 18 it is OK but if they drink a pixel beer on a videogame it is an influence to drink and be stupid....whatok?
I suppose it depends who it is okay for. Honestly, at least in the state of Maryland, kids can drink with their parents before the age of 18 since it is legal in religious and parent supervision situations. Do I think it is okay? I couldn't care less what others do, honestly kids going out getting drunk, raped, receiving an std or sti has nothing to do with me. However it may affect my kids, I think the less people in the world is better. Our ecological footprint is out of line. :[
But do I think kids going out, drinking in places they don't know, around people they don't know, who are willing to take advantage of them, or them going out and doing things stupid and unsupervised is alright opposed to a legal guardian keeping an eye on them is better... No I do not.
Under the parents watch? Is it okay, legally too. Do I think it is okay? No, but is it better? Yes.
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ALSO what thor is saying about guns and swords should prove your theory wrong.kids want guns and swords...but just because they see it on a videogame does not mean they are going to go around stabbing and shooting people.
Honestly, coming in here, I wasn't in here to debate, only state that yes it is an influence, but don't get me wrong, I will debate. However, I could care less if Thor has anything about alcohol on his server.
I use to think Graal was an RPG like game, and the yellow glass mugs had Ale. Something used in games, and what I believe is not served anymore.. Or I haven't heard of anyone drinking Ales..
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I forgot to mention, I collect swords and knives, probably because of video games.
I, as well as someone else, was almost kicked out of the school for bringing in military clothing and I had a knife, he had bullets and whatever.
Of course I am the only one to get in trouble for it since I was putting the knife away since I didn't believe it would be be good to have with me.
Anyway, for MattKan, my life story. ;D
We would have had to go somewhere else if my mother did not talk to the board of education.
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Uh DavidK,
My favorite stalker is back.
Hello!
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I believe if some kind of message was being conveyed to people under the legal drinking age on graal it'd be that beer is bad for you
As classic shows, it does no favours for you. Take that david!, kay?
That is good, we are all entitled to our beliefs.
I would love to see where on the game you have learned that though lmao...
Since I'm not trying to take spotlight from your post,
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In addition to Drunken Stupor, Sumo Island is now released, and likewise is publicly hostable by players.
The studios warp room contains 2 slashable plus/minus buttons to alternate the subsequent event level, eventually there can be a scrollable GUI to accompany these once they become time consuming. The warp is automatically set to the relevant level whenever a GC begins summoning for a studio event.
The important progress here and with Drunken Stupor wasn't so much about making events themself, but preparing the foundation resources to be re-used among all of the events.
Notable resources accompanying Sumo include:
The ability for the host to set points to or warp out players via middle click GUI.
The top 3 point earners being displayed on the screen, in addition to your own tally.
A GUI containing the ability for the host to enable/disable health loss (PK mode) and weapon usage, both of these have a bearing on HP + HUD display. Also included is the ability for the host to heal or strip guild tags among all players.
A bottom right display options button for disabling nicknames/HUD, similarly to within Team Events.
A start/stop button for the host, which invokes an automatic countdown.
Screen message displaying eliminations, plus eliminators where applicable.
I love Sumo, one of my favorite events in Graal aside from Gravity Race and Shaded Legends Hold The Briefcase. ^.^;;
If you are asking me if I believe that it is influencing their want to try it, yes...............
^you saying that kids drinking pixel beers on graal is a negative influence.
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I do believe people who don't have others drinking or smoking around them are less likely to participate lol.. Unless of course they see it in the media, and I'm not saying they won't see it in stores, but I don't think they would have the desire to want it if it is seen in a store.
unless they see it in the media...drinking and smoking is in tons of TV shows and movies, not even rated MA or R TV/movies. seeing someone drink a beer and have a good time in a tv program/movie will be more influencial than seeing a character in a game (graal) drink a beer and have no effect on the character.
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drinking, if kids started around 18, they would most likely be around their parents and less crazy with it while they ARE out on their own.. Since they have already experienced it..
contradicting.... if they drink around there parents at 18 it is OK but if they drink a pixel beer on a videogame it is an influence to drink and be stupid....whatok?
ALSO what thor is saying about guns and swords should prove your theory wrong.kids want guns and swords...but just because they see it on a videogame does not mean they are going to go around stabbing and shooting people.
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