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Old 07-04-2011, 03:02 AM
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Providing Potential servers with classic enable functions.

I think the Potential servers like Aeon,Ol West (since someone got it up but no one knows who). and other servers to apply for classic enabled.
If the server is between hosted and classic status they should be classic enable due. To the amount of classic servers on UC like why would people pay to work for hosted servers and UC? when they can work for Rudora,Atlantis,Delteria,Maloria,Npluse ?? that they can work for free.

Honestly i think PC game client is more of a development/beta grounds for other devices to see how it works out with a small community before they launch it to bigger Communitys. So they can see what they can change or want to keep ect.

Honestly if this really don't happen i really dont see hardly any UC server to go classic tab due
all the good developments dont want to pay for gold to work for a UC server when they can go with one of the Classic servers on UC and dont have to pay at all
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Old 07-04-2011, 09:32 PM
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this have been discussed many times, one side says that if that happens, the staffs on the server loses interest of doing the last push to classic tab, and they see it as an reward when they get their server classic enabled too.

the other side is pretty much what you said, but do keep in mind that UC servers makes the cash, and as do the players who doesn't have Classic Lifetime, and the developers on UC servers when they buy a Subscription.
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Old 07-06-2011, 03:16 AM
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i know its been discuss alot but i also think pc verison really not costing that much
in my understanding they purschase torque 3d and compile the game engine with torque
torque engine gives u 2000 players to log on to the game without paying nothing for free after that u get a fee. And if this is true the pc verison is pretty much pure profit i know they purchase Torque due i found on the privite fourms stefan asking questions about issues he was having with building Graal 3d. But honestly pc verison is really not a full game no more its more like i said a test/beta ground for iphone and facebook.
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Old 07-06-2011, 03:50 AM
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Graal does not use Torque (I would guess they removed it with V4) nor do I understand why you even brought that up but I guess that's just you adding your "rave" factor to your posts.

Care to elaborate on your PC servers are "test/beta ground for iphone and facebook"?

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Trial limitations should be removed along with observer mode and server's made classic-enabled.

They should then put a limit on the amount of staff you can have on your server. I.e:

UC - 6 Staff Members
Hosted - 12 Staff Members
Classic - No Limit

Hosted servers should also be properly game-play tested, nothing too intense but making sure they don't break completely 5 minutes into it. If they were Shaded Legend would still be UC.
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I agree with fowlplay.

I wonder if increasing server prices and making Testbed Server more official/well-known would encourage people to help on existing servers rather than trying to start their own and failing.
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I agree with fowlplay.

I wonder if increasing server prices and making Testbed Server more official/well-known would encourage people to help on existing servers rather than trying to start their own and failing.
I could only agree with increasing server prices as long it's only to make up for the revenue they would have received from the gold subscriptions due to the lift on trial limitations even then I question the necessity of it.

I think a price-discount for hosted servers would also add initiative for developers, say 10-20%?

Perhaps a 3-month plan at 29 Euros (41.79 USD) would entice new developers to try their attempt at it. It would certainly help if the server documentation was improved though, so players don't fall completely on their face after purchasing the server.

I'm sure the revenue from the iPhone and (soon-to-be) Facebook servers is relieving the pressure off of Graal PC to allow flexibility in the PC payment-model.
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Old 07-06-2011, 05:02 AM
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Graal does not use Torque (I would guess they removed it with V4) nor do I understand why you even brought that up but I guess that's just you adding your "rave" factor to your posts.

Care to elaborate on your PC servers are "test/beta ground for iphone and facebook"?

On-topic:

Trial limitations should be removed along with observer mode and server's made classic-enabled.

They should then put a limit on the amount of staff you can have on your server. I.e:

UC - 6 Staff Members
Hosted - 12 Staff Members
Classic - No Limit

Hosted servers should also be properly game-play tested, nothing too intense but making sure they don't break completely 5 minutes into it. If they were Shaded Legend would still be UC.
i bought torque up due in the past alot of players say they couldnt support the servers due they will lose to much cash i didnt know they quit using the engine due Graal PC does look alot like it was made in Torque thats y i know for a fact the 3d tools and engine was. so i was making a point by doing hosted classic enable or some servers that has the shot to go classic they wouldnt have to close pc verison due they cant afford it


Another thing i wish i could get on a classic tab team doing development but Val i didnt like it when i work there
UN i was hire as a ET Dev i try it out but i couldnt stand Jigga
i would like to give Zodiac another shot then Era kind of looks fun but think ill get bored of doing nothing not a very big option i use to love working with puppin he help me get better
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Old 07-06-2011, 03:36 PM
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I don't think there should be any limit to a staff team..
Of course having too much staff on the same UC server isn't always a good thing and might turn out bad but that's the managers job to manage their staff and if they can't well then they don't deserve going hosted/classic.
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Old 07-07-2011, 06:52 AM
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jkldogg plz quit being a normal era player sorry i refuse to play a inmature server. But anyways stay on topic. i just throw up a suggestion there. Cause there are people on graal oldbies that cant pay for gold to help a server out due to personal issues.
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Old 07-07-2011, 06:54 AM
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I don't think there should be any limit to a staff team..
Of course having too much staff on the same UC server isn't always a good thing and might turn out bad but that's the managers job to manage their staff and if they can't well then they don't deserve going hosted/classic.
not really look at zodiac if i remember correctly Yen hire like alot of lats to just whipe all the insides levels real quick and before they went classic they fired all of them well most of them.
So it just depends if ur smart with it or not and how u use that extra staff for
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